test-drb April 2002

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by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > I guess talking to my self and jerking violently and twitching is ok > > then after 20 years in the biz... > > No IRIX in the mix? IRIX in morning, sysadmins take warning... IRIX at night, hacker's delight. <Shudder> -dq

22 years, 8 months

open "dumpster" event in New Haven, CT

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

For those of you just catching up to this, the stuff has all been either tossed or claimed. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > This is the whole list. The room has to be emptied _today_, so I can > bring stuff home with me, if you want to get it later in the day. I'll try > to take home any of the smaller unclaimed stuff to store. > Again, everything is in unknown, untested condition; as-is. > Let me know by around 5:00 pm eastern time... > > > ---------- > > From: David Woyciesjes > > > > We're cleaning here, and got some stuff being tossed. > > > > Free, Come pick it up... > > > > 12 old modems - Gandalf LDS125 (?) > > about 12 (?) dozen tape reels. 12" diameter. They're in 4 15" monitor > > boxes... > -1 box is probably taken... > > 2 HP LaserJet IID, with duplex - Taken? > > 1 HP LaserJet IIID, w/ duplex - taken? > > some long comms(?) cables > > Epson line printers > > CSU/DSU > > -- > > > And here's more stuff... > > 2 Topaz Powermaker UPSs > 1, maybe 2 Datability Vista terminal servers > 1, maybe 2 Delnis > Digital DECRepeater 350 > DeskJet 500 > DeskJet Plus > VT220 > VT420 > Radius 21" (?) monchrome monitor > > -- > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 > Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 > Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > >

22 years, 8 months

"Toy" computers (was Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Chris > > >I think there was exactly one product from Apple that plugged into > >the floppy port - a 20MB disk that required strange drivers. I > >don't recall the part number, but when Apple came out with a 20MB > >SCSI disk, they called it the "20SC" or something similar (IIRC) > >to distinguish it from the older product. > > The floppy port one was called the Hard Disk 20 (Hard Drive 20?? damn, I > always screw that up). You are right on the SCSI one (20SC). And there is > a 2nd product that I am aware of Apple made for the floppy port. An > external 400k floppy drive. They may have made other external floppies > for the Mac that use the floppy port as well (800k maybe, but I don't > think they made a 1.44 external) > > There were of course other floppy drives made for floppy ports on the > IIgs, but I don't know if that is the same functionality, so I don't know > if those could have been used on the Mac. > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net> > This reminds me... I have here an Applied Engineering AEHD 3.5" External disk drive for Apple Computers. But the machine it's from is long gone. Who wants it? Say, $20 for me to pack it and ship it out. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 8 months

"Toy" computers (was Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/25/2002 10:46:00 AM Central Daylight Time, mythtech(a)mac.com writes: > >I think there was exactly one product from Apple that plugged into > >the floppy port - a 20MB disk that required strange drivers. I > >don't recall the part number, but when Apple came out with a 20MB > >SCSI disk, they called it the "20SC" or something similar (IIRC) > >to distinguish it from the older product. > > The floppy port one was called the Hard Disk 20 (Hard Drive 20?? damn, I > always screw that up). You are right on the SCSI one (20SC). And there is > a 2nd product that I am aware of Apple made for the floppy port. An > external 400k floppy drive. They may have made other external floppies > for the Mac that use the floppy port as well (800k maybe, but I don't > think they made a 1.44 external) > > There were of course other floppy drives made for floppy ports on the > IIgs, but I don't know if that is the same functionality, so I don't know > if those could have been used on the Mac. > > The hard drive was called an HD20. I have a mac 512k that uses it. About a fast as a floppy drive, but at least it held 20megs worth. You couldnt chain a floppy drive off the HD20 though.

22 years, 8 months

UNIX versions

by root＠diablonet.net

Douglas H. Quebbeman said: > > IRIX in morning, sysadmins take warning... > IRIX at night, hacker's delight. Hey, I actually like IRIX quite a bit! :) Granted, if I wanted to run an Internet server, I would probably reach for one of my Sun slabs running NetBSD, but my desktop UNIX workstation sitting next to me here is an Indigo2! I love SGI hardware -- I have a ton of Indy, Indigo, and Indigo2 systems that I run as UNIX workstations around the house, and I have not yet found a window manager that I prefer over 4Dwm. All my SGI machines are superbly reliable, although security can get to be a concern sometimes. 16 CDs? That seems really strange -- I tend to throw almost the entire system on my machines (drive space willing) and it takes maybe six or seven for 6.5.0... Kind regards, Sean Caron -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

22 years, 8 months

Anyone Care About RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

I will shortly be making some copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ that I have downloaded and wish to offload from my hard disk drive. I have verified each of the 2 RSX-11 and the 1 RT-11 images against the MD5 values in the file MD5SUMS and they are the same. In addition, after I copy the image on my hard drive to the CD, I will verify them against their respective images in their hard drive files. To do so, I will be using RT-11 and BINCOM (with some of my own modifications which allows me to also verify block 65535 at the end of each RT-11 partition). Since there are a maximum of 20 RT-11 partitions on each CD and each BINCOM run takes me less than 30 seconds, the whole comparison can be done in less than 10 minutes - which will probably be about the length of time it takes to make the CD copy in the first place. Since there might be a number of individuals who can't download at a reasonable speed (even with DSL it takes about 12 hours each at about 30 KBytes per second as compared with about 3 KBytes per second on a dial up line), I am prepared to make additional copies (Tim Shoppa no longer seems to have the time to do so) and make them available at my cost of about $ US 1.50 (for media, label, envelope and shipping carton - the media portion is less than half of that total) plus postage. By the way, for myself, I would VERY much appreciate being in touch with all individuals who have a copy of the RT-11 Freeware CD V2.0 so that we might exchange information about RT-11. Tim Shoppa felt that he might be violating privacy concerns if he made the names, of those who ordered the CD, available. I don't see it that way, so if you want your name to be known along with the other individuals (or not as the case may be - i.e. restrict that you have a copy of the RT-11 CD to ONLY specified individuals such as possibly just myself) so that you can receive interesting information about new developments in RT-11 and the status of the operating system, then PLEASE contact me so that we can share information. Also state if you want to be known to the entire group of just to specified individuals. PLUS, as for TSX-PLUS, I am going to try again to knock at the door of S&H to see what they may consider for hobby users. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

22 years, 8 months

"Toy" computers (was Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > I think there was exactly one product from Apple that plugged into > the floppy port - a 20MB disk that required strange drivers. I > don't recall the part number, but when Apple came out with a 20MB > SCSI disk, they called it the "20SC" or something similar (IIRC) > to distinguish it from the older product. I used to have an Apple disk that plugged into the floppy port. 20M as you say, but it booted directly, so it must not have been too "strange." > That having been said, I would question how much Apple "discouraged" > people from using the SCSI port on the Mac Plus. There may have > been an alternative and Apple may have pushed it over third-party > disks, but once the stock of strange disks ran out, presuming > the Mac Plus was still being made, I doubt Apple would continue > to urge people to ignore the SCSI port. So you're saying they probably wanted people to use their disk over what SCSI disks were available? It wouldn't surprise me. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 8 months

Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@mac.com] > I know I never increased my drinking, smoking, cursing and profuse > consumption of potato chips, coffee, or cola because of > playing games on > an Apple II. Nor did I, though, I already consumed more than enough potato chips and cola. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 8 months

"Toy" computers (was Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > > > constitutes a "toy", even in the most general of terms. > > I'd say anything that runs windows primarily. *duck* > To be defined as a "TOY", doesn't it have to be FUN? You have a point, but just because it isn't _my_ idea of fun to watch an hourglass cursor spin, set through a boring install procedure every couple of weeks to coax the machine into performing better, all the while spending more money on hardware and software "necessities" that fix bugs in the system the should have never appeared, and worrying about my email client transferring "viri" around... Well, that doesn't mean that it's not somebody else's idea of fun. It obviously must be; just look at the healthy user base they've got. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 8 months

DEC3000 Model 500

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Truthan,Larry [mailto:truthanl@oclc.org] > What is a Dec 3000 model 500? Has a cd rom. and a SCSI port > out the back. > Looks Like an Alpha Processor system. What OS? Peanut 2.2? on > handwritten CD. Well, VMS, of course. :) It will also run those other OS's ;) (The OS Formerly Known As OSF/1, NetBSD, that kind of thing...) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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test-drb April 2002