test-drb April 2002

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new server status and RFC on problem tracking database for all classic OS's

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Thanks a MILLION to all who have donated parts and/or money so far to get a separate dedicated classiccmp server. Many of the components are in (still missing a few critical things), but I'm still waffeling on whether to put in IDE hardware mirroring (and if so, whether to do it with a motherboard that supports this or an addin ide raid card). Decisions decisions.... if anyone still wants to donate to the cause, my paypal id is jwest(a)classiccmp.org On a different note - something I have been considering and wonder if people would like it or use it. I would like to put up a problem tracking system for all classic OS's. This would be off the classiccmp.org website, where anyone could put in a problem they have run into with a particular classic OS - be it a suspected bug, compatability issues, etc. An administrative type (volunteers who want to watch the section for a particular OS) can come in and post an answer, resolution, workaround, etc., or mark the problem report as "user error", "known defect", etc. This database easily supports someone searching for a list of problems, issues, etc. For example - "show me any entries for getting a cdrom to work on RT11", or "show me any problems with crashed BBL on HP21xx", or "what are all the known defects in {your favorite operating system here}". All accessible to the public via a simple web interface. You can think of this as a totally free hobbyist support mechanism open to the public. However, keep in mind that it is NOT meant to be used as a "discussion" forum. The very nature of the software used for the system prevents this from happening (ie. it's not meant to replace the classiccmp mailing list in any way). Just another way to find out if the problem you're beating your head against is a known bug. I have been looking at BugTrak, but am starting to lean towards the gnats system with the www.gnats frontend. Any thoughts? Jay West

23 years, 1 month

Vintage Comp Ads and Prices

by jpl15＠panix.com

Just found this: www.adflip.com a huge archive of print advertising covering many decades. Entering 'compter' into the search box returned hundreds of ads, starting with a full page National Geographic spread for the IBM 604 from 1951... many many other vintage systems from the 70s are there too, many with prices. Cheers John

23 years, 1 month

Sun help needed... [was: RE: open "dumpster" event in New Hav en, CT]

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Any tips, tricks, or other hints? Maybe something I missed? How > about other options for getting this puppy running? I used an RRD42 to install SunOS <something> on a SPARC IPX. It had a strange problem where the install program would see some problem with the drive and abort. If you re-ran the install program a second time, it would complete fine. You might watch out for that. Also, some versions of Solaris *hate* non-sun drives, and won't boot from them. I don't know which ones, right off. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 1 month

Ebay alert, Pacific NW, DEC gear

by fernande＠internet1.net

It's not my auction, and I wish I was close enough to investigate further. The auction says he has 3 pages of components that he'll fax to a potential bidder. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2019918462 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

23 years, 1 month

suggestions on BBC Micro, voltage converter, PAL monitor (in US)?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Tony, Second processors _are_ hard to find. The 6502 and Z80 ones are just about possible to find. The 32016 and ARM1 ones are very rare. I've got a few of the Torch Z80 and Torch 68000 type along with an 80C286 board that fits internally to the BBC. I have no documents or software for any of these and both the 68000 and 80C286 boards have had nearly all the socketed chips pulled. Any ideas where I can get info and/or software for these. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 1 month

Sun help needed... [was: RE: open "dumpster" event in New Hav en, CT]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Bill Pechter > > > Anyway, to my point... This is off-topic, so taking it off-list is > > appropriate I believe... I have a Sun Ultra1 Creator. (170E, Open Boot > 3.1, > > 128 MB RAM, 4 GB Quantum, 1 GB Conner, floppy disk... old 19" Sun color > > monitor, type 5c keyb, optical mouse w/proper silver pad!) Well, now > that I > > finally got the Creator framebuffer replaced, it's time to load Solaris. > > Except that all the CD-ROMS I have aren't even seen by the console... > And I > > tried the sector size jumper both ways. > > > > -- > > try to describe the scsi bus and termination. > do a probe-scsi and a probe-scsi-all... > > let me know what that does. > - Termination was tried both ways on the CD drive. The 2 HDDs are SCA-80, and it looks like those are in the middle of the chain. probe-scsi shows _only_ the 2 HDDs, never the CD. probe-scsi-all will have to wait until I get home from work... > Great machine... I've got some Sun Parts if you need them including an > external disk and cd. > - Hopefully the DEC RRD42 will work, like people say it should. Could that external CD be mounted in the Ultra1? I'd hate to clutter up my desk _more_... :) > Plextor and Toshiba CD's and CD-R's have worked for me on them. > The old 2x toshibas are $3.50 at www.compgeeks.com. > > My Teac's also have the 512 byte jumper as do IBM's. > - None of which I have... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

23 years, 1 month

Sun help needed... [was: RE: open "dumpster" event in New Haven, CT]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

This may be an off-topic post, but Chris is nuts for old HP laser printers and old Macs! A 2 hour drive, out of the blue, during the week, just for two printers... Well I guess that fits just about everybody on this list though... Anyway, to my point... This is off-topic, so taking it off-list is appropriate I believe... I have a Sun Ultra1 Creator. (170E, Open Boot 3.1, 128 MB RAM, 4 GB Quantum, 1 GB Conner, floppy disk... old 19" Sun color monitor, type 5c keyb, optical mouse w/proper silver pad!) Well, now that I finally got the Creator framebuffer replaced, it's time to load Solaris. Except that all the CD-ROMS I have aren't even seen by the console... And I tried the sector size jumper both ways. - Matsushita CR-503-B Compaq spare... - Smart 7 Friendly CD-R 4012 - Apple CD300 plus (found the Sun CD list that said these didn't work afterwards) I have a DEC RRD42 external CD drive here at work that I'm gonna "borrow" this weekend. Any tips, tricks, or other hints? Maybe something I missed? How about other options for getting this puppy running? Thanks to Sridhar and DaveM for trying to help last might... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Chris > > >> 1 HP LaserJet IIID, w/ duplex > >Covet covet. > > > >*sigh* I'm in Qu?bec. > > That is sitting in the back of the van sitting in my driveway :-) > > In the morning I will see what it's status is (Dave believes it works, > but doesn't know 100%... worst case, I will probably canabalize my LJ 2 > to get the IIID running) > > Sorry, had to rub it in (isn't often I have toys others want) > > -chris

23 years, 1 month

Unix versions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 25, 18:20, Bill Pechter wrote: > > On Apr 24, 21:05, Bill Pechter wrote: > > > > > Isn't it a bit much to call XXDP+ an OS. > > > DECX-11 is closer... XXDP's pretty dumb. > > > > I've always thought of XXDP as the OS that DECX-11 runs under. > More like the program loader for the OS... 8-). > > At least CP/M had better editors available than XXDP... Yeah, you mean EDLIN :-) TECO in XXDP is not my favourite editor! I'm slightly puzzled by what you say about DEC X-11, though. My exposure to it and XXDP is only in the form of the diagnostics available to end users and third-party service organisations, and I suspect there's more to it than that. The reason I think of XXDP as the OS and X-11 as the, well, application in a way, is that all I see are the X-11 modules to run build and series of tests, whereas XXDP includes the monitor, system handlers etc (as well as the diagnostic programs and utilites, of course). To me, that's the OS. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 1 month

Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

At 02:08 PM 4/25/02 -0500, you wrote: >I had a cop-rogrammer at one point who insisted that MacOS was based on >MS-DOS. :) >Needless to say, he didn't rogramm very well, and was fired eventually. >Chris Copro-grammer fits. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

23 years, 1 month

Mains voltage & frequency

by PeksaDO＠Cardiff.ac.uk

>From 1981-1992 our Honeywell Multics (120V 60Hz) was attached to the grid (240V 50Hz) via an motor/alternator set which was about 6' (long) x 3' (high) x 2' (wide). Doug.

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test-drb April 2002