> From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu>
> The BIOS identifies itself as (C)1986 Commodore Electronics Ltd and seems
> to be a Phoenix type. I can't figure out how to get into the BIOS setup.
> Neat feature: all the devices are identified with their detected port
> addresses.
Cameron:
I have a generic Phoenix BIOS utility which I have used several times on
PCs where I could not enter the BIOS setup program via keystrokes.
Please * remind me* to send you this utility if you think it will be
helpful to you as it is very late here and I will forget . . .
Best regards,
Glen
0/0
On Sunday 28 April 2002 13:06, you wrote:
> > Actually, its sort of unexpected that you haven't been
> > pointed to this project or found this on your own.
>
> I found it long before you did, I guarantee you. Some of the code in that
> project was written by yours truly.
Then why the feigned ignorance then ?
and I feel some tugging at my lower extremities.
In fact... hmmm
afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -l
"nop.org" *
0058.html
afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -i
"date" 0058.html
<strong>Date:</strong> Wed Mar 01 2000 - 19:43:55 GMT
Ya know, ive been on the Herc mail list for a while and ...
afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -l
"ikickass.org" *
grep: att-0581: Is a directory
afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# cd ../
afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html# grep -sirl "ikickass.org" *
You are not in my archives mirror at all
I think you are blowin smoke up my Butt.
> Come back when you know what you are talking about.
And my error was where ?
non-seq tosser too i see.
> (BTW, from your previous argument, I was *on the team that ported Linux to
> S/390 at Marist College*
Linux was not ported at marist, it was a skunkworks project @ IBM itself
( with much work done @ IBM Germany) Marist had the first starter kits.
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/2151204&mode=nocomment&tid=23
At age 28, Boas Betzler is known at IBM as the "grandfather"
of Linux on the mainframe. In mid-1998, he began a port of
Linux to the IBM zSeries, and he's shepherded the Linux
mainframe project from the beginning to the first shipments.
In porting Linux to an IBM mainframe, Betzler went against the
grain both internally at IBM, where many saw Linux as a competitor
to IBM's own mainframe operating system, and among many analysts
outside of IBM, who suggested the port wasn't possible without a
huge investment.
Betzler's "fun" project has helped IBM record double-digit revenue
growth for the first time in more than a decade
You are not talking out of your usual orifice it seems, or perhaps you are.
Was: Error in Marist large filesystem: Library symlinks
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:20:24 -0600
From: Raymond Moyers <rmoyers(a)nop.org>
To: Linux on VM Port <LINUX-VM(a)VM.MARIST.EDU>
Hmm seems ive deleted some of my older posts grr, o well they have
a list archive too, and im in it, been on that list from near day one ... i
dont seem to recall you there either.
You are not talking out of your usual orifice it seems, or perhaps you are.
you sound as if you had been locked in a glass house with an old 360/67
for 20 years and suddenly came out and spent the last day or so cramming
for your last post.
Common man, it isnt my aim to get in no pecker fight here, its just the
exchange of experience projects and ideas, so why go to an extent
of putting your integrity in question. bad move imo.
> -- Linux is *not* the best thing to happen to mainframes.
IBM sales sure says otherwise, it has reversed a downward trend
in sales in market conditions where the field elsewhere is not
climbing. IBM gives direct credit to Linux on the 390 for this.
> I know the capabilities of the hardware, I know the capabilities of the
> OS, and I know that the OS is not the best choice for the hardware
> in most cases).
Unix given a persona, being more GP than anything before seen on earth,
would not claim to be "best" at anything. it would claim provably beyond
all doubt, running on devices from wristwatch ( demoed by IBM ) to the
mainframe, that it is good at more things than any other system can claim.
Linux on the s390 bare metal would sure be incomplete, it dont have all the
support from all the user written tools dealing with the specifics of that
hardware, it still really needs VM under it to fill in it functional gaps.
Thats the argument you could have made, so why am i the one making it.
( i dont see that condition existing forever tho, VM was no utilitarian
cornacopia on the hacked 360/40 it was born on either, even VM370r6
cant run XEDIT because the full screen support is missing, but hey,
VM got better and so will linux390)
This last post from you was in the flavor that it seems you think i was
attacking you or something, relax man, that isnt the case.
Leftist moonies always translate disagreement with them into personal
attacks, they call you racist, or go into their shout you down mode or ..
Is that what this is ?
Raymond
-------------------------------------------------------
Doug -
You asked about Lee Felsenstein turning the intelligent terminal into a
computer. From an article he wrote in 1977, (found on Jim Battle's Sol site)
he stated that they were requested to design an inteligent terminal for
Popular Electronics. He had already designed the VDM board and wanted to
use it for his so-called Tom Swift terminal. He and Bob Marsh worked out
designs and Bob's used an 8080 whereas his did not. They eventually
realized that they had a whole computer, but downplayed that until after the
article was published.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
Thanks to everyone who showed interest (which was a lot more than I
expected). The chips have found new homes, and will be winging their way
their Monday.
Based on the replies, I guess I should have put them on eBay with "L@@K!"
"RARE!", and made my retirement money.
This is actually something that really gets me wound up. These people gut
an old XT, and list every chip they can yank off the board as "RARE!". So
it has gold flashed pins. So what? It's ceramic? So what? A 27C128 is
not "L@@K RARE!". And there are a couple of particular offenders.
I've though about writing a CGI script that trolls for that, and
automatically sends an e-mail every day to the effect of "Hi! You're an
idiot, and couldn't recognize a RARE! chip if it bit you on the ass. Please
stop polluting eBay with your useless crap that you can't even identify.
How can I tell? Because you put RARE! and a part number, and no part
description what so ever. Moron".
--John
> I've got some chips sitting around that may (or may not) interest the
> classiccmp'ers.
>
> 2 MC68010LC10 (10Mhz "aircraft carrier" (DIP-64) 68010s)
> 1 MC68010R10 (10Mhz PGA 68010)
> 4 AT&T DSP-16a
> 2 Acorn chip sets (VL86C010 + VL86C410 + VL86C110)
> 1 AMD 9511D (DIP Arithimetic Co-processor)
> 4 COM9046 (SMC voice scramblers)
From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com>
>Could someone point out a catalog/website that gives good complete
>solutions? (IE the crystal needs some support components which I have
>no clue). Apparently two crystals of equal spec from different
>manufacturers will require diff. support, so... help. thanks.
The most direct place to go is the PIC chip vendor. They will specify
the
crystal and related componenets.
Allison
-Solid State Fisher Model 440-T receiver, not working correctly, but
probably fixable, has all parts, not in the best of shape, but could be
made functional.
-DEC M7639
-DEC M7622-BT 8 megs, not 16
-DEC M7621-AP
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org>
>As far as I know that's as far as it got inside DEC as well.
>I once wondered where was the base DOS/Batch box left inside DEC
>to build the XXDP stuff and DECX/11... I figure they just hacked it on
>a DEC10 or RSTS/E box... maybe later on a VAX under PDP11 emulators.
Used to be in building 21 fieldservice diagnostic engineering. I always
wondered what the internal structure of it was.
Allison
Anyone want an IBM PC?
Reply-to: joan-keith(a)attbi.com
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:57:08 -0400
From: Joan Keith <joan-keith(a)attbi.com>
Subject: Questions about a donation
Hi,
I have one of the earliest IBM PCs. I don't know if this is something
you would be interested or not. As I recall, it was upgraded from 64k
of memory to 192 and it has a single-sided 5 1/4 disk drive. It is in
my mother's attic in Baltimore.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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I have an MK11 printset, but it has an M8159 schematic which has been
superceeded by the M8164 board (which I have). I don't have a schematic
for the M8164 board, which I presume is different than the M8159.
So, I am looking for scans of the M8164 board schematics...
Also, if someone has schematics for the M8728-AC/AF board that would be nice
to have as well.
--tnx
--tom
