> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allison [mailto:ajp166@bellatlantic.net]
> It has been done. At one time you could get "cp/m processor"
> cards for VAX,
> PDP-11 and several other machines. Most had several Z80s for multiple
> users.
Not exactly "mainframe," but do they come in QBus modules? :)
That would make one hell of a CP/M machine.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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Hi all,
I have a MicroVAX (BA123 enclosure, KA650 CPU) that I would like
to put to work... to this end I have two M7941 (DRV11) parallel I/O
cards that I would like to bring into service. The Micronotes say that
this card is compatible with the 22-bit QBUS, and I have the Field
Service print set so I can set the CSR and vectors to appropriate
values.
Of course, VMS does not have a driver for these cards, but I am
not too frightened by the prospect of a little code - here lies the
problem! Can anyone tell me just how this card maps into the I/O space,
given the CSR? I would like to know just where to read from and write to
in order the drive the beastie...
Thanks in advance for your help,
Dave.
From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com>
>I suppose such a product would be good if you need it. It could do
>better than to run NT. Maybe they should "port CP/M" to the mainframe.
It has been done. At one time you could get "cp/m processor" cards for VAX,
PDP-11 and several other machines. Most had several Z80s for multiple
users.
Allison
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Moyers [mailto:rmoyers@nop.org]
> A real box can total flood a bundle of gigabit fiber
> the diameter of your right leg, its the I/O that sets
> these monsters apart really, their CPUs are no
> slouch, but not any faster than a common modern
> PC chip.
So, by "emulated," you didn't mean to imply that they were emulated
in such a manner as to be replaced by the peesee -- that is the
misunderstanding here, I'm sure. :)
Anyway, I've always subscribed to the school of thought which says
that the CPU should do only that which can't be accomplished with
special purpose chips. It makes things much more elegant.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James B. DiGriz [mailto:jbdigriz@dragonsweb.org]
> If you're saying that whether somebody is right or not, or whether
> substantive matters of potentially great import hang on this, is more
> important to some people than having their ass sucked, to the extent
> that a Stallman's reasons don't even enter in, then you may
> be right. So
> what? It doesn't address the issues at all.
Actually it's his presentation of those reasons that concerns me. I'm
only re-iterating that he would find more sympathetic ears if he weren't
so rigid about the whole thing.
> Think we've reached the agree to disagree point here, Chief.
> It's ceased
> to be topical anyway.
Suits me. There are certainly more important and interesting things
to discuss.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James B. DiGriz [mailto:jbdigriz@dragonsweb.org]
> > If you mean that the FSF deserves some credit and respect, sure,
> > but that's not the way for him to get the former, and it certainly
> > has lost him lots of the latter, even if the project may still be
> > relatively well thought of.
> I think you can make the case that he isn't entirely
> unjustified. He and
In wanting credit? No, he's not unjustified at all. Only in demanding
that the credit take whatever form he likes. :)
> the FSF have a lot invested in it. I don't see anything more
> objectionable in it than the average corporate trademark claim. It
Well, you should see what I have to say about most of those.
> certainly annoys a lot of people, though. It might behoove
> him to find a
> better way of dealilng with the issue if he can. I'll go
> along with that.
I'll say that it shows an incredible lack of taste and social grace
on his part to take offense at everyone who doesn't see it his way
(right or not...)
That said, he can do what he likes -- I just may not agree with it.
> The snide attempts at ad hominems are unwarranted, though.
I hope that's not directed towards me. I'll say now that I have
nothing against Richard Stallman personally. Only against some
opinions that it seems he'd like codified into law. Any "fun" made
of him is simply caricature to drive the point home.
I have, though, thought about making a BSD/Linux in protest. ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> From: Marvin Johnston
>
> I have two Memory cards for the HP Laserjet II, both with no
> documentation. One is fully stuffed and looks to be 4 MB; the second is
> partially stuffed and with what appears to be 1 MB. Best offer over
> $10.00 for both plus shipping ($3.50 USPS Priority Mail) by Tuesday.
>
> If you are not going to follow through quickly, please don't make an
> offer or say you want them.
>
- Does anyone know if these would work in a DEC Laser 2100?
- If not, does anyone know of/have any memory for a DECLaser2100 that
they are willing to part with?
- I remember someone said they had an extra legal tray for an HP
LaserJet II/III. That would fit in my (newly acquired) DECLaser 2100. Please
e-mail me.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Moyers [mailto:rmoyers@nop.org]
> Today that campus worth of hardware is emulated in the hercules
> s360/370/390/ zSeries emulator http://www.conmicro.cx/hercules
> running on a PC running linux or winbloZ
I do hope Sridhar will take his time to address this. :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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I agree, I don't much like having 20 or so e-mails like that in my inbox...
especially because hotmail will start deleting stuff when the mailbox is
full enough! I personally junk apple IIs also, though I pitch the power
supply and take the boards to the scrapyard. I have nothing against Dick,
he's given me lots of neat stuff, and while I'm sure I don't share all of
the same opinions that he does, what he does with his property is his own
perogative.
That's my 1865 2 cent piece worth,
Will J
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