I know for a fact that the HIGH Speed card works wonderfully in a IIGS as I
have one in mine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <mythtech(a)mac.com>
To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: Apple Part # for IIgs SCSI card
> I have a lead on some Apple II SCSI cards, but the seller knows nothing
> about them other than the Apple part #.
>
> Anyone have a clue if any of these will work with the IIgs (or which
> systems these work with?)
>
> >2, Apple II High Speed SCSI Card #661-0499 USED
>
> >1, Apple II SCSI Card USED
>
> >1, Apple SCSI Card #661-0499 USED.
>
> Also, what are these worth? The seller doesn't know, so I have to offer a
> price if I want one, but I want to make sure I don't offer a ridiculous
> price (either too high, or too low)
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> -chris
>
> <http://www.mythtech.net>
>
Your assumption was partially correct.
A DEC terminal such as VT340 is required IF your using a
serial connection. (some of the protocal info is in the tube).
There are clones that know how to as well.
Another connection could be an XZY generic terminal
through a latserver.
A PC running the required software to emulate a DEC VT340
or VT420. This software is SETHOST (runs under dos and
was part of pathworks package). NOTE: this can use either
a NIC (LAT) or Serial line.
DEC VT1200 (and others) support multisession via LAT.
OR... any combo of VAXen with tube/keyboard and maybe
mouse.
Some of those combos are like unix in the overal topology
others require a DEC multisession tube or a clone of same.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: More VMS
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Allison wrote:
>
>> Whats hardware dependent about the VMS version? The unix version
>> assumes a locally connected "head" or a Xserver/Xterm system.
>
> Sorry; I misread your original post, and thought that multisessions
>required a later model DEC terminal.
> The unix screen doesn't assume any TERM definition. I've run it from
>serial terminals, ssh sessions, and text-mode logins with a variety of
>term definitions. The Linux, *BSD and AIX versions all set the virtual
>terminal to its own termcap. It makes AIX almost convenient....
>
>
> Doc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com]
> Is this an example of VAX/VMS assembly language?
> And if so, what would a good reference be to learn it?
Looks like MACRO32 to me -- so yes, it's basically VAX assembly.
I don't know of a good place to learn it (don't know it,
myself), but I hear that there is a reference in with all
of the VMS manuals on the Compaq web page.
You may or may not be aware that you can get a MACRO32
compiler (Yep!) for Alpha VMS, and very likely VMS on Itanic
when that shows up.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com]
> > You can use spawn/nowait to run stuff "in the background,"
> > . . . you can even use SET PROCESS (I think) to switch
> > between foreground and background jobs,
> That may have been ATTACH {process} that you recall.
> Also, you could suspend foreground with a simple control
> key press. With mappable keys this could be a just a two
> key process. This as of 1986.
Yep, sorry, it's been a long day already.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Whats hardware dependent about the VMS version? The unix version
assumes a locally connected "head" or a Xserver/Xterm system.
The terminal can be others as I belive some of the later VT clones
also had it. Also if you running a DEC system that has a "head"
that implied terminal does both DECwindows and Multisessions.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: More VMS
>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Allison wrote:
>
>> Yes, If you use a terminal like VT330, 340or later there is
>> what VMS calls multisessions. Some fo the LAT servers
>> also support this with more common VT220s or VT320s.
>> I was added late in VMS 4.mumble and later versions.
>> This is not decwindows which is GUI based.
>>
>> What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several
>> virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I use it alot.
>
> Yeah, that's pretty much what I was talking about. The Unix screen
>tool is hardware-independent, though. The host manages the virtual
>sessions and display. I have an RS/6000 that's usually running with an
>IBM 3151 [1] terminal, and screen & su allow me to be several users or
>run several login sessions.
> An additional feature of screen is its "detach" function. You can log
>in remotely, start screen, start a job that doesn't support detach,
>detach the screen session, and log out. Log in later, reattach from
>screen, and watch your job. Yes, I'm familiar with nohup, but this is
>more convenient if I'm actually watching output.
>
>[1] - What am I missing here? AFAICT, the 3151 is the lamest, most
>featureless serial terminal of its time. No options, no usefull
>emulations, really bad CRT. Bleah!
>
>
> Doc
>
>
On March 27, Erik S. Klein wrote:
> I used to go to the Trenton swap meet in the early 1980s (I remember failing
> to buy a loaded Altair 8800 system w/ 2 8" drives, paper tape reader,
> terminal and other goodies all on a rolling rack because I couldn't figure
> out how to get it home) and enjoyed browsing the toys and discards.
Ahh, TCF was wonderful before it turned into yet another "buy your new
Taiwanese PC here" show. I went to all of them from about 1982
through 1990, selling for all but one or two years. I had a great
time, every time!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant,
St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar
"Erik S. Klein" <eklein(a)impac.com> wrote:
> Are there any similar swap meets in the NorCal area?
Yes, at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills and the Livermore Amateur
Radio Klub swap meet at Las Positas College in Livermore. See
<http://www.kce.com/junk.htm> for details.
Where are you?
-Frank McConnell
I have a lead on some Apple II SCSI cards, but the seller knows nothing
about them other than the Apple part #.
Anyone have a clue if any of these will work with the IIgs (or which
systems these work with?)
>2, Apple II High Speed SCSI Card #661-0499 USED
>1, Apple II SCSI Card USED
>1, Apple SCSI Card #661-0499 USED.
Also, what are these worth? The seller doesn't know, so I have to offer a
price if I want one, but I want to make sure I don't offer a ridiculous
price (either too high, or too low)
Thanks!
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
