test-drb March 2002

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by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> > Well, this would be a neat professional ZX81 setup - just you miss the > whole fun of getting the real minimalistic ZX81. One _can_ do usefull > stuff with just one or two KBytes of RAM. one has a real lot of fun > by just playing around with this little plasic box in front of an old > TV set. Hans, I agree with you 100 percent. This is the purpose the ZX81 was designed for: teaching people how to have fun getting the most out of the least! > I'd suggest an out of the box ZX81 (or Timex 1000) to start with, and > realy trying to play with only one K ... next step could be the internal > expansion to whooping TWO K - and oh boy, programmers dreams will come > thru. Yeah, I remember the first time I could write a BASIC program with more than 40 lines of code -- wow! > I still think tha'ts the most fun, haggling with tight resources). Also true for me. It's still a thrill to go over a machine code or assembly language program and be able to trim out 20 bytes! > A professional system, like Glen tells is quite nice, but you need > also some more knowledge about the pitfalls of a ZX. Start of with > the fun of a simple system, and if you're a late victim of the ZX > infection, then you'll soon expand into the ZX96 dimension. I think this is very good advice. > (Not a ZX fan, but I realy like to dig out a ZX80 or 81 from time to > time just to play around with the most minimalistic _full_ system ever) This is the best description of the ZX81 I've ever encountered! Keep on ZXin'! Glen 0/0

22 years, 5 months

Got the Toshiba Desk Station IV manual

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

A while back someone was looking for information from this manual? I opened a new box while at the warehouse today and took out the manual and have it at home now. If you still need some info from it let me know.

22 years, 5 months

AN/UYK62(V)2

by adair＠adair-international.com

Could anyone please inform me of the following item: Item: Data Processing Set, military specs Model :1666B Military Designation: AN/UYK64(V)2 Manufacturer: ROLM Measurement: 2 x 3 ft Weight: 120 lbs RGDS/ YC

22 years, 5 months

DEC 3000-600

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: > >Subject: DEC 3000-600 > >framebuffer card with a 3W3 on it, CDROM, 128M of RAM, KN17 CPU. Is the >RZ26 a 1G drive? And how clock speed is the proc? RZ26 is indeed 1GB SCSI. The DEC 3000-600 is a 175MHz EV4. Memory from 32MB to 512MB. Turbochannel. 114 specint 92. >What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Does Linux support TURBOchannel? I presume NetBSD does ... but I know at least one of the free OSes does not. > Is there a >version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? OpenVMS Alpha, yes from V1.5-1H1 onwards (i.e. almost any version you happen to have). Ultrix never ran on these birds. Digital Unix (now known as Tru64 but probably in the middle of another name transition) did support them but I have a feeling that support was dropped in the most recent version. And in this case they actually pulled the support code, so it absolutely will not work. >Also, I didn't get a keyboard with >it and didn't see one there. What >kind of keyboard does it use, and can I >use a serial terminal instead? I guess a PC keyboard (LK451 or such???) but I don't have any docs to hand. Almost all of these boxes will work with a serial console ... plug in and type set console serial (otherwise it switches to the graphical console partway through the boot and if all you have is serial yo uthink it's died on you!!) Antonio

22 years, 5 months

VCF Gazette Volume 1 Issue 1

by vcf＠vintage.org

VCF Gazette Volume 1, Issue 1 A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival March 13, 2002 Hello Vintage Computer Fans! Welcome to the first issue of what is guaranteed to be an irregularly published newsletter to keep you up to date on the latest events and happenings of the Vintage Computer Festival. There is a lot going on this year. We have two major events, VCF Europa 3.0 and VCF 5.0, and an Open House at our Oakland, California, facility. VCF Europa 3.0 -------------- The third annual Vintage Computer Festival Europa is being held April 27th and 28th in Munich, Germany. If you have a chance to be in Munich during the last weekend of April, you should certainly attend. You'll get a taste of the vibrant computer industry and the varied computers that were produced in Europe from over ten years ago and beyond. For more information on VCF Europa 3.0, visit: http://www.vintage.org/2002/europa/ --or-- http://www.vcfe.de/ VCF 5.0 ------- As you may well be aware, VCF 5.0, originally scheduled for September 15th and 16th, was cancelled due to the tragic events that occured on September 11, 2001. The necessity for the cancellation slowly became evident as events transpired over the course of the three days following September 11th. At least three speakers were not going to be able to attend due to the grounding of all U.S. air traffic. It was uncertain whether more attacks would come. In hindsight, cancelling VCF 5.0 was still the right decision to make, as it was uncertain whether anyone would even want to come to such an event in the wake of the tragedy. A statement was posted to the VCF 5.0 website on Thursday, September 13, informing of the cancellation, and a message was sent to the VCF mailing list. We appreciate the understanding we received. Now that things have thankfully returned to normal for the most part, it is time to reschedule VCF 5.0 for 2002. Planning is underway to hold VCF 5.0 sometime in September. Negotiations are underway for securing a venue in Santa Clara (our first choice) or San Jose (our backup choice). VCF 5.0 will be more exciting than ever this year. We plan to offer more great speakers and many excellent exhibits, but we also plan to expand attendee participation by adding retro-programming contests and other events. Of course we will still have the Nerd Trivia Challenge to vex even the most ardent vintage computing nerd. More details to come! VCF 5.0 will also be part of a larger smorgasbord of events which is tentatively being dubbed "GeekWeek". The VCF will partner with the California Extreme Classic Arcade Show, the Xtreme Games Developers Conference, the first San Francisco International Conference of Hackers, an Atari 30-Year Anniversary Party, and several other accompanying events including LANtrocity and Super Auctions (coin- operated amusement auctions). This exciting combination of events will become a yearly mecca for geeks from all over the world to come together and celebrate the joys of geekdom! Information for each event can be found at the following URLs: Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 http://www.vintage.org/2002/main/ California Extreme http://www.caextreme.org/ Xtreme Games Developers Conference http://www.xgdc.com/ San Francisco International Conference of Hackers http://www.gism.net/sfich/ Atari 30-Year Anniversary Party (Atari Historical Society) http://www.atari-history.com/ LANtrocity http://www.lantrocity.com/ Super Auctions http://www.superauctions.com/ VCF East 2.0 ------------ Last year's first Vintage Computer Festival East, held in Marlborough, Massachusetts, in July of 2001, was every bit as fun and exciting as the main VCF. Five speakers, including Eldon Hall, designer of the Apollo Guidance Computer, and eleven exhibitors, including the Retro- Computing Society of Rhode Island who brought along a PDP-12 running Spacewar!, provided a vintage computing retrospective for over 80 attendees. The next VCF East is being planned for Spring of 2003. We will begin booking speakers, exhibits and vendors in the fall of this year. VCF Open House at the ACCRC --------------------------- As of Fall of 2001, the Vintage Computer Festival Archive has found a happy new home at the Alameda County Computer Resource Center. The ACCRC is an organization that accepts donations of old computers and electronics, refurbishes the working computers to be donated back to schools and charities, and recycles the rest. Nothing at the ACCRC is thrown out. Everything gets recycled! ACCRC computers are located on every continent on Earth including Antarctica. The VCF is busily sorting, organizing and cataloguing the VCF Archive at the ACCRC. Shelving is being assembled, walls are being built, and floors are being swept in preparation for the first VCF Open House. The VCF and the ACCRC will welcome the general public to come in and see how we operate. There will be plenty of activities, tasty things to munch on, and tours of the VCF Archive and the ACCRC operations and pet programs (including the ACCRC Beowulf Cluster and KOOX internet radio station). The VCF is also in the process of setting up a computer museum at the ACCRC and building facilities for our documentation and software archive library so that it can finally be offered for use by the general public. We're hoping to finish the remodeling effort within a few weeks but we're still searching for needed materials. We'd like to find recycled computer flooring to improve the floor in the area where we are setting up the library. Might you know of where we can get some? If so, please let us know by sending an e-mail message to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. Any flooring donated will qualify as a tax deductible charitable donation to the ACCRC. Once we have the archive organized and the library completed, we'll announce the dates for what will become the first annual VCF Open House. We're very excited at the prospect of finally having a public venue to share the VCF Archive on a year-round basis. For more information on the Alameda County Computer Resource Center, please visit their website: http://www.accrc.org/ To listen to KOOX internet radio, visit their Screaming Streaming Audio website: http://www.koox.net/ If you have computer flooring to donate, or know of someone who does, please contact us at <vcf(a)vintage.org>. VCF on MediaTelevision ---------------------- MediaTelevision, a Canadian program that "looks inside and behind the media process", will be airing this week a segment that they produced on the VCF. Watch for it on a station that airs MediaTelevision's program. For information regarding MediaTelevision's segment on the VCF, visit: http://www.mediatv.net/ VintageTech ----------- The Vintage Computer Festival is proud to announce a new off-shoot for business and industry. VintageTech provides services such as patent litigation support and prior art searches, consulting and props for the film and photography industry, data and media conversion, vintage computer appraisals and sales brokering, and general computer history consulting. To inquire about VintageTech services or for more information, visit VintageTech today: http://wwww.vintagetech.com/ Classic Tech Eletter -------------------- Michael Nadeau, long-time computer industry journalist and former editor of Byte magazine, has launched a new newsletter that caters to the vintage computing audience. The Classic Tech Eletter is a monthly newsletter delivered right to your e-mail box. Each issue contains news and stories concerning happenings in the world of old computers and the folks who collect them. Subscribe to the Classic Tech Eletter and see back issues at: http://www.classictechpub.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- That wraps it up for this first issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time... Best regards, Sellam Ismail Producer Vintage Computer Festival http://www.vintage.org/ The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we will try to maintain a quarterly schedule. If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the following web page: http://www.vintage.org/remove.php ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 5 months

DEC 3000-600

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > I know I made out with a steal - he had no idea what it was :) > What kind of OS's are available besides NetBSD or Linux... Is there a > version of VMS or Ultrix that'll work? Also, I didn't get a This is the TurboChannel Alpha, right? Last I heard, NetBSD didn't support TurboChannel -- or was that Linux, but it's been a while. Ultrix? No, but you can run Digital Unix on it, or OSF/1, or whatever its name is today. Of course, I could be mistaken, but I believe VMS is supposed to run very well on these. In fact, if I had one, that's what I'd do. > keyboard with > it and didn't see one there. What kind of keyboard does it > use, and can I > use a serial terminal instead? It will either be a "normal" peesee keyboard plug, (wouldn't use anything but a real DEC keyboard, though), or it will be a "normal" DEC keyboard (like for the vt320, etc). Being an Alpha, it's more likely the former, but that's an early Alpha, so check the shape of the plug before you plug the keyboard in ;) ... and of course you can use a serial terminal. (Might, or might not require removing the framebuffer -- it did on some older VAXen.) Try just plugging the terminal into what looks like the first serial port, and you'll probably be pleasantly surprised. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 5 months

info needed: Shinwa printer

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does have any info on this printer? It looks like this <http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/bargain-products/bargain-product-info.ASP?…>. I picked one up today. This one is marked "Terminal Printer" and model MH-4015+ but the FFC ID number says that it's made by Shinwa and it lappears to be the same as the CPB-136. It's a dot matrix printer and it has SIX printheads in it! Joe

22 years, 5 months

More VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Yes, If you use a terminal like VT330, 340or later there is what VMS calls multisessions. Some fo the LAT servers also support this with more common VT220s or VT320s. I was added late in VMS 4.mumble and later versions. This is not decwindows which is GUI based. What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I use it alot. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: More VMS >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Alan Pearson wrote: > >> As an aside to the current VMS discussion, does anyone know >> of an equivalent to the Unix "su -" command for VMS? > >> At the moment I'm using an ST running UNITERM hooked up to a >> 3100/30's console port so I'm stuck with just the one login session >> at a time - occasionally I'd like to be able to flip over to SYSTEM >> without having to mess about with logging out of AL and into SYSTEM >> and back :-) Any ideas? > > Is there a "screen" app for VMS? Screen allows you to use "virtual >screens" - that is have several sessions going on one terminal. You >page through them by hotkey. > > Doc > >

22 years, 5 months

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I have an 820 I'll let go reasonably. Shipping will be a bit of a PITA. Where are you located? SteveRob >From: Tom Uban <uban(a)ubanproductions.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: RE: Z80 BigBoard ID Needed >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:34:35 -0600 > >BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if >anyone has one they want to find a new home for... > >--tom > >At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: > >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: > >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check > >> >out the picture at: > >> > > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg > >> > > >> >and see if you recognize it? > >> > >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big >board. > >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" >floppy > >> drive) and was usually a kit. > > > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the > >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > > > >If gone now, I have a copy... > > > >-dq > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

22 years, 5 months

Free stuff! Adaptec AAA-131U2 Raid SCSI stuff (no card!)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

While at a surplus place today I picked up a box for an Adaptec SCSI Raid controller card model AAA-131U2. There's no card in it but the docs and SW are there along with the original box.l If anyone wants it slip me a few bucks for beer and postage (book rate, right Doc?) and it's your's. There's also a couple of manuals and a disk for something called Adaptec CI/O Management in the box. I don't know if it came with the card but I'm throwing it in anyway. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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