Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com wrote...
> try a MicroVAX first, to give her time to get used to it... ;-)
I did suggest moving the cooker & fridge out of the kitchen so
we could get a Vax in & wire it up to the cooker supply, but the
idea wasn't popular :-).
>> I'd dearly love a Vax (first 'real' computer I used, don't know which
>> model 'cos I only saw the serial terminal,) but fear my wife would
>> kill me if I tried to get one in the flat :-).
> A MicroVAX II in a BA23 box uses about the same space and power as a
> tower PC, so this is probably a good "soft drug" to start with. You may
> then try to add a cabinet with RA8x disks to see how far you can go...
> ;-)
Hmm, looks like a nice machine... I shall be keeping an eye on eBay
et al. Only concern being the possibility of getting a hernia trying
to lug one upstairs :-).
I've been tempted by a VAXstation 3100 to get the ball rolling... I'd
definitely be able to get away with one in the house, and they seem
to be reasonably widely available. My one enduring memory of actually
using these though was possibly the worst mouse design I have
ever had the misfortune of using... Although the Apple 'puck'
comes pretty damn close!
Cheers,
Tim.
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Richard.Sandwell(a)roebry.co.uk wrote...
> And the wannabe/Wannahave stuff - Psion MC400, Wang PC, Wang VS100,
> RS/6000, NeXT Dimension, BeBox, IBM PS/2 95
>
> Tim, when you've finished with that MC400 be sure to let me know. I've
> been after one for years....;-)
Hehe, over my dead body <grin>. Seriously tho, if I didn't have a
genuine use for it I probably would pass it on - I only keep stuff I
intend to make some use of generally. But it does make for a really
handy portable serial terminal - I use it at work on 'real' servers as
well as for my home stuff.
The only annoyances it suffers are dodgy flow control, can't send a
BRK, and the damn touchpad pointing thing. This is so fantastically
annoying that whoever at Psion designed it should be shot - it's
based on absolute coordinates (touch in the top left, the pointer
jumps there,) the pointer disappears when you take your finger off
(more accurately, the pointer constantly appears/disappears while
you are trying to use it,) and it has an effective resolution of
about 1 inch... Other than that, it's great :-)
Cheers,
Tim.
(Oh, just realised I forgot one of my favourite toys - my Apple Newton
Original Message Pad. I think it'll be on topic in a year :-)
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> ----------
> From: Doc
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> > Oh shit yes.
> >
> > -Dave
>
> <In his best "Simpsons" bully voice>
>
> Nyaahh-Haahh!!! I *wasn't* drinking coffee this time!
>
> Doc
>
Yeah? but I was... ***drip drip***
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From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [mailto:SUPRDAVE@aol.com]
> bzzzt,wrong! my wife to be is pretty and smart and
> more enlightened than most. Plus she knows *everything*
> about me and loves it all! heh.
Mine too, though I'm sure she doesn't love everything
about me. She does have her own collection, and
encourages me way too much.
Chris
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In a message dated 2/5/2002 6:58:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, foo(a)siconic.com
writes:
> Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention of
> other folks who have stuff that you may want
ok, I'll start
I specialise in IBM family one and PS/* models and apple products, primarily
the ][ series.
Well, I'm just getting started in this hobby, and currently in the
"grab the interesting (to me) stuff" phase. Although It's mostly centered
around (for now :-) workstation class boxes, and Macs...
> ----------
> From: Chris
>
> >Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention of
> >other folks who have stuff that you may want.
>
> I want any items made by Apple Computer, but my forte is the Macintosh
>
> -chris
>
I really should find out if my Macintosh II, with the scribbled date under
the lid, is rare or not, just to make you jealous Chris... ;-)
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At 08:12 PM 2/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Douglas Taylor wrote:
>
> > My Vax 4000 has a TF85 DLT tape drive which works fine, but is missing
> > the plastic panel that has the lettering describing the function of
> > the various LEDs on the front of the drive. Could someone tell me
> > what the different LEDs mean? Once I know I can make a snazzy paper,
> > stick on version.... ( That's what hobby computing is about! )
>
>Are these the same drives that the MicroVax II use? If so, I can take a
>picture of the legend on my drive.
No, the TF85 is a DSSI drive. The MicroVax II used the TK50 and TK70
drives, which look quite similar.
Doug
Hi all.. First post to the list (been lurking for a month or so :-)
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
> Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention
> of other folks who have stuff that you may want.
Hmm. I don't have a speciality yet 'cos I don't really have enough
equipment to constitute one, but if I ever accumulate enough it will be
Unix workstations and servers.
My main interest is in well designed kit that I can use to serve a
purpose - my home web server/DNS/MTA etc. is a Sparc Classic & my
workstation is an SGI Indy, for example. My next acquisition will be a
database server, and I'm thinking HP PA/RISC at the moment...
(My serial console is a 1989 Psion MC400 mobile computer.)
I'd dearly love a Vax (first 'real' computer I used, don't know which
model 'cos I only saw the serial terminal,) but fear my wife would
kill me if I tried to get one in the flat :-). As for the second 'real'
one I used - an Amdahl - I'm not even going to mention it to her :^).
In my parents' garage I do also have a PET 8096 + dual floppy, a C64 +
1541 + CBM printer, & an A2000. Soon as I have access to a car I'll
retrieve them, and start the long job of clearing out the spiders...
Once it's back and cleaned & serviceable I'll probably pass the PET on,
because I simply don't have the room, but the Miggy I'm _very_ fond of :-)
Cheers,
Tim.
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I thought I had one, but I don't. Someone out there have/know where to find
a cable with an RJ-45 plug on one side and a female DE-9 (DB-25 okay but
prefer DE-9) on the other? This is to plug my Commodore into the serial port
on my Lantronix EPS4+1 and attempt to get it on the network by reverse Telnet.
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Does anyone have any idea what this
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/p-panel/front.jpg> is? The id tag
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/p-panel/idplate.jpg> on the back calls it a
Programmer's Panel. As you can see it was built by Martin marietta and is
serial number 004. Most of the connections to it are made through two
connectors on the back panel
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/p-panel/conns.jpg>. There's also one
connector on the side (sorry no picture this time). The side connector is a
male D(mumble) size connector with three rows of pins similar to that used
in the old SUN disk drives. It only uses a single card
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/p-panel/inside.jpg> inside but the card is
nearly as big as the case. The card is one of the expensive Augut brand
wire wrap cards with machine turned pins and sockets that have a heavy gold
plating. Everything appears to be SSI TTL logic. All the electrical
connections are made via DIP style plugs and one ribbon cable along the
front edge of the card. In the picture you can see where I left two of them
unplugged. There's also a three digit numeric display in the back RH
corner. It seems to always display "300". Inside the case there is one
Acopian power supply and two ACDC power supplies. The card is in a frame
that has a neat tilt up feature. Just press in two spring loaded buttons in
the back corners and tilt the card anywhere that you want it. It will tilt
forward about 140 degrees allowing access to the back of the card. There's
also extra holes in the frame so that you can lock the card at the 90
degree position. I've shown that in one of the other pictures. The front
hinges are made with the same style spring loaded pins, so you can press
them in and completely remove the circuit card.
The front panel is very interesting. First, the switches all have three
positions. Most of them have two functions plus an off position. The one in
the lower LH corner, for example, clears the Entry register or complements
the entry that's already in it. Second, the panel has controls for just
about anything you can imagine. Note that it uses 16 bit data but only a 14
bit address.
Sorry for the crummy picture. I got home late and there wasn't enough
light for a decent picture. The first TWO sets of pictures didn't turn out
so I said the hell with it and used these. I did try using the camaera
flash but it made too much glare. I'll retake the pictures sometime when I
get home earlier.
Anybody have an idea of what kind of computer this was made for? The
case and wire wrap card look very promising for potential use as a future
Altair style computer.
Joe
