On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote:
> Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention
> of other folks who have stuff that you may want.
NeXT 68030 cube (with working Optical, how novel...)
SGI Indigo R3000
Sun Sparcstation 1+
Sun Sparcstation 5
Sun Ultra 5 (way off topic by 6 years...)
Apricot Generic MSDOS machines (XEN, Xi) and IBM compats (Xen-i, Qi, VX/FT
etc)
Sinclair QL
Z88
And the wannabe/Wannahave stuff - Psion MC400, Wang PC, Wang VS100,
RS/6000, NeXT Dimension, BeBox, IBM PS/2 95
Tim, when you've finished with that MC400 be sure to let me know. I've been
after one for years....;-)
//Rich
Rumor has it that Christopher Smith may have mentioned these words:
>Um, no... mine has a small VAX, an AT&T Unix PC, and Apple Lisa,
>a small Macintosh, a Tadpole Sparcbook...
<Homer>
Ooooohhh, Sparcbook... Mmmmmmmmm...
</Homer>
>Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Darn, you prolly know perl about 1000000% better than me...
So, I can't trade your wife 6 months of perl programming for a sparcbook...
:-(
Always wanted one of those.
My wife is also amongst the computer illiterate, but at least I have her
brainwashed^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H educated enough to not want Windows on
any machine she uses... :-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
Well, I watched it, didn't tape it. The Computer Museum was not mentioned or
shown.
There were some pictures of keypunching and running the cards through a
sorter that I thought could have been shot at the Museum.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
On Feb 6, 4:08, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote:
> I just wired a handful of these adapters for my own asynch comms server.
> Crossing TX and RX, as well as RTS and CTS, was a "no-duh". But what the
> heck do I do with DSR, DCD, and DTR? Part of my problem is I don't
> understand exactly what those signals are used for and how they relate to
> each other.
>
> I looked at some PC "null modem" cables and they seem to tie DSR and DCD
> at one end, to DTR at the other. I'd do this exact thing for my setup but
> the comm server only offers DCD and DTR signals.
>
> How do I handle DSR, DCD, and DTR in this situation? I tried leaving them
> unwired but things seemed unhappy.
The way I usually do it is to cross wire like this:
DTR -------------------- DSR
\
DSR -- ------ DCD
\
DCD -------------------- DTR
Another way is to simply link all three together on each connector (with no
DTR/DSR/DCD connections between the connectors).
I usually also cross over RTS and CTS, or tie them together at each end.
The logic is roughly like this: terminal connected to modem; terminal
raises DTR to indicate that it's active (Data Terminal Ready) and it wants
some attention. If modem is powered up, it replies by raising DSR (Data
Set Ready) to indicate some kind of life. If it grabs a line, makes a
connection, and gets a carrier tone in response, it raises DCD (Data
Carrier Detect) to say so.
I say "roughly" because it's actually different for full-duplex and
half-duplex, and neither is quite what I've described above. However, that
conveys the general sense. So in a situation where you have two terminals
(or any other equivalent device, like a PC, printer, in fact any DTE or
Data Terminal Equipment rather than DCE -- Data Communications Equipment)
you create a "null modem" in between. When one side raises DTR, the other
sees DSR, and vice-versa. When ever one sees DSR, it knows there's
something there and it also sees DCD and thinks it's OK to transmit and
receive (well, strictly speaking, only to receive).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
In a message dated 2/6/02 2:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
> Hmmm, pretty nice. Yea, I stuffed 32MB RAM into my SE/30. And I do think I
> just may have a 1 GB HDD to stick in there too. The 840AV does sound nice.
> Maybe I can score the Quadra 800 here at work. Anyone have a sled and
>
I have a 950 that could use that too!
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
Anybody intrested in a Digital H775A battery backup unit for the cost of
postage?
You can have it with or without the 2 battery containers.
Each container holds 6 2V 5AH recharchable cells.
If you do want it without the batteries, I'll include the 2 containers
and the 2
cables + 1 cell, so you know the size.
All the cells are empty and don't seem to be recharching anymore.
Ed
--
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quapla(a)xs4all.nl | Europarlementariers: zakkenvullers
http://www.xs4all.nl/~quapla | en neuspeuteraars.
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> ----------
> From: Chris
>
> >I really should find out if my Macintosh II, with the scribbled date
> under
> >the lid, is rare or not,
>
> I know the original macs all had sigs in the case (128, 512s, plus, se,
> and I think into the SE/30 is when they stopped)... I have also heard
> rumor that the original II series had sigs or similar in the case (II,
> IIx, IIcx)... but being as I dont have those 3 (yet), I can't check for
> myself.
>
Hopefully, I'll have my computer room cleaned up and set up within a week,
or so. Once that is done, it's time to open and inspect my Macs for stuff
like that...
> But hey... I am sure if you took it to Antiques Road Show, they would
> tell you it is worth a few grand easy.
>
Heh, heh... then I just might have to sell it to someone there ;-)
> >just to make you jealous Chris... ;-)
>
> Well... at least as of tomorrow, we will have a fair fight when swinging
> SE/30's... I'm driving into NYC to pick up an SE/30 and an 840AV with a
> SpigotProAV card (the SE/30 is pretty well loaded, 32mb RAM with 200mb
> HD... so it looks like I will finally get around to installing NetBSD on
> a Mac... and I have to look into the Spigot card... if it can capture to
> MPEG, I might turn the 840 into a standalone VCD burner... but from first
> checks, looks like the Spigot captures to a propritary JPEG format)
>
> -chris
>
> <http://www.mythtech.net>
>
Hmmm, pretty nice. Yea, I stuffed 32MB RAM into my SE/30. And I do think I
just may have a 1 GB HDD to stick in there too. The 840AV does sound nice.
Maybe I can score the Quadra 800 here at work. Anyone have a sled and
faceplate to stick a CD-ROM in the Quadra 800?
--- David A Woyciesjes
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--- Yale University Press
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Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
Oh yes, me too. Two 100's, modems, and a centris 610 that I used to run the
developer kit on. Found one of the developer magazines the other day too.
Never could get my MP to accurately translate Hillary Clinton <grin>......
"Hans Franke"
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> >(Oh, just realised I forgot one of my favourite toys - my Apple Newton
> >Original Message Pad. I think it'll be on topic in a year :-)
> I don't have an OMP, but I have a 100 and two 110s... I used to write
> software for them. I was one of the few people that was actually a member
> of the "newton developer" program with apple... now I am just a plain old
> "select" member :-(
On this list you're never alone when it comes to such things.
Gruss
H.
(Who realy would like to see a new Newt)
--
VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen
http://www.vcfe.org/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com]
> <flamebait>
> I also have this perverse fascination with Macintosh hardware. I
> don't like it. I keep wanting to like it, and accumulating
> more of it.
> MacOS 9.1 is the second poorest excuse for an OS I've ever seen.
> Windows ME was just barely worse.
> </flamebait>
Macintosh hardware is much harder to appreciate than most of the
more industrial machines. It becomes especially hard when you
see the things that Macintosh could have been (Lisa, NeXT) :)
It is, however, a cut above the intel garbage that has the
market saturated, and for that reason, I like it. There are
also some interesting bits of Macintosh hardware that most people
don't see...
http://www.lunar.com/portfolio/client_archive/netserver.html
(They also have a newer "workgroup server," which I hear is similar,
but with a glowing green apple on the side. :)
> I'd like to have a non-Mac 68k workstation, but I don't know which
> yet.
May I suggest the SGI IRIS 3000, if you can find one, and have the
space. I can't, and I don't, but if I could, I would. ;)
Otherwise, the NeXT platform is truly the "holy grail" of unix
workstations.
This post is, of course, heavily saturated with personal opinion. :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On February 6, Huw Davies wrote:
> >What is your opinion of the DS10 Alpha as an entry level
> >current "production" machine. I was thinking that my
> >next acquisition might be something more contemporary.
> >I found an interesting reference to one here:
> >
> >http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/Resources/Computing/halley.html
> >
> >... which got me interested.
>
> Nice box although I think they are a little overpriced (but this is
> probably due to the cost of the alpha chip more than anything else). Choice
Overpriced for that level of performance? I disagree.
> of at least three operating systems (OpenVMS, Tru64 and Linux). Wouldn't
> surprise me if one of the BSDs ran too. Inbuilt ethernet and unless I'm
> mistaken, IDE disks can be used if you want to save a few dollars.
You can indeed use IDE disks on a DS10...if you want to trash the I/O
performance of the system.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf