> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > Well, isn't the breaker on the SGI desksides 16A?
> It is, but I don't think I want to push the limits that close.
Well, me neither, but the point is that if your wire will handle
it, most houses have 20A breakers. :)
Chances are it would be ok on a 16A dedicated line, or a nominally
15A circuit with nothing else plugged in. (depending on wiring, of
course)
> You won't find a 16A breaker in a branch circuit. You'd
> likely see a 15A
Well, what I meant here was a dedicated circuit designed to carry
16A, which likely would (obviously) have a breaker that's rated
higher... I have encountered them in a couple of houses before,
usually for air conditioning, refrigerators, etc.
> *might* be ok, but the system could still overload the
> receptacle and plug
> since they are still only rated for 15A.
True enough -- unless they aren't.
> SGI actually rated these systems for a dedicated 20A branch circuit.
At any rate, that's probably the safest way to go.
Chris
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> ----------
> From: Robert F Schaefer
>
> >> ----------
> >> From: Robert F Schaefer
> >>
> >> > You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out
> >> > an grabbed my attention?
> >> > My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell
> >> > wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-***
> >> > electricians that you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit...
> >>
> >> Hey! I *don't* resemble that remark. In my experience, it's commonly
> >> the
> >>
> >> owner or the equipment mfgr with their head up their a$$. I've seen
> >> some scarey stuff in my few years in the trade. (And you can put a
> >> 15 amp plug
> >>
> >> on a 30 amp circuit-- see NFPA 70 (2002) article 210.21(B)(3)
> >> exception no.
> >> 2 --not that it comes up often!)
>
> (After I looked that over again, it reads like I might be pissed-- that's
> not the case!)
>
---Nah, I knew you weren't pissed. After I wrote it, I realized that
I might be a little off in that example... :-)
> > Bob ---
> > I know, I'm sure you don't :-). But there _are_ some electricians
> > out there, who are, well, *out there*.
>
> I know-- I work with him... ^_^
>
> > As for that "15 amp plug - 30 amp circuit" thing, you're right, I
> > pulled that example out of my ass [1], but she has dealt with many
> > idiot customers trying to do things that are _very_ asinine. I'm
> > surprised that some of them haven't managed to kill themselves yet.
>
> Some people are alive just because it's illegal to stand by and watch them
>
> kill themselves. It's amazing that some of these people manage to
> remember
> to breath every day.
>
> `Don't put your finger in there.' `Ok.' `Don't put your finger in
> there.' `Ok.' `Don't put your finger in there.' `Ok.' **BZZZAP** `What
>
> happened?' `I put my finger in there.'
>
> I sure hope I don't get killed trying to save some moron. I'll be cursing
>
> all the way to h#ll if I do.
>
> Bob
>
---"Doc, it hurts when I do this!" "So don't do that!"
> >
> > [1] Yep. That shows that I can do the wiring in the house, I just don't
> > design it without a little reference nearby. :-)
> >
> > --- David A Woyciesjes
>
>
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
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Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
It's a shame they're 286's and can't even run Linux...
Bob, I'm wondering if I can hit you up for resources here in Chicago. I've
lived here for about 2 years and haven't come across any good tech
resources. I'm hoping you can point me to some of the various resellers,
corporate liquidators, junk shops, and scrappers where good stuff might be
found in the Chicagoland area. I'm looking for stuff to rescue as well as
raw material for art.
Also - HAMFESTS. Are there any hamfests in the area this year? Are hamfests
in chicago likely to have much non-radio content?
thanks much,
-carl
"Feldman, Robert"
<Robert_Feldman@jdedw To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
ards.com> cc:
Sent by: Subject: Dumpster in the alley.
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siccmp.org
02/12/02 07:58 AM
Please respond to
classiccmp
Location: Chicago, Illinois, Wabash and Lake Streets, behind Harold
Washington College.
What: a 20 foot construction dumpster being loaded at this moment (8:00 AM
CST) with PC's, mainly PS/2 30's and 50's.
They're literally tossing them into the dumpster. :(
Bob
I have an NSA 3270/Elite sleeve/binder with 3 disks that I haven't got a clue
about. Of course I could RTFM but any attempt so far has escaped me.
I'm trying to determine if I could use it for something, sell it on E-Pay for
BIG BUCKs, offer it to the list, or bury it in my obscure,likely of no use bin.
Any illumination would be helpful and appreciated.
Lawrence
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
> ----------
> From: Robert F Schaefer
>
> > You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out and
> > grabbed my attention?
> > My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell
> > wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** electricians
> > that you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit...
>
> Hey! I *don't* resemble that remark. In my experience, it's commonly the
>
> owner or the equipment mfgr with their head up their a$$. I've seen some
> scarey stuff in my few years in the trade. (And you can put a 15 amp plug
>
> on a 30 amp circuit-- see NFPA 70 (2002) article 210.21(B)(3) exception
> no.
> 2 --not that it comes up often!)
>
> Bob
>
> >
> > --- David A Woyciesjes
>
Bob ---
I know, I'm sure you don't :-). But there _are_ some electricians
out there, who are, well, *out there*.
As for that "15 amp plug - 30 amp circuit" thing, you're right, I
pulled that example out of my ass [1], but she has dealt with many idiot
customers trying to do things that are _very_ asinine. I'm surprised that
some of them haven't managed to kill themselves yet.
[1] Yep. That shows that I can do the wiring in the house, I just don't
design it without a little reference nearby. :-)
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 90581
Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
Yes, this is Off Topic, but since you're all knowledgeable, and packrats...
Probably should keep this off-list too...
I have a Quantum Viking 3.5" SCSI-2 HDD, SCA-80 connector, P/N 4550S
VK45J012 REV 03-C K8600. It seems to spin up okay, but ARC setup on my DEC
Alpha doesn't see it. The biggest chip on the board, probably the
controller, gets to a temperature that seems way hotter than it should be.
Well, compared to another Quantum 4.5GB Viking drive.
Question is, can just the controller board be replaced? Does anyone
have one? or is this toast?
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 90581
Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
You want to know why this message subject immediately jumped out and
grabbed my attention?
My Wife is the Grainger/National Accounts Coordinator for Hubbell
wiring devices. She's one of the people who tell dumb-*** electricians that
you can't use a 15 amp plug in a 30 amp circuit...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 90581
Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
> ----------
> From: Tothwolf
>
> I'm sure there are other folks on the list that have systems that use
> twist-lock connectors, so I am posting here before I contact a surplus
> company to work out a trade.
>
> I have the following Hubbell twist-lock connectors that are surplus to my
> needs:
>
> Qty Description Hubbell Part #
> NEMA
> 4 125V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL2611
> L5-30P
> 3 125V/250V 20A Insulgrip Plug HBL9965C
> N/A
> 1 125V/250V 20A Insulgrip Flanged Receptacle HBL3326C
> N/A
> 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL3331C
> N/A
> 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Flanged Inlet HBL3334C
> N/A
> 1 125V/250V 30A Insulgrip Flanged Receptacle HBL3335C
> N/A
> 2 125V 15A/250V 10A Insulgrip Plug [Not UL Listed] HBL7567C
> N/A
>
> I am looking for these connectors to get power to my old SGI systems:
>
> Qty Description Hubbell Part #
> NEMA
> 2 125V 20A Insulgrip Plug HBL2311
> L5-20P
> 3 125V 20A Insulgrip Connector Body HBL2313
> L5-20R
> 4 125V 20A Single Flush Receptacle HBL2310
> L5-20R
> 2 250V 30A Insulgrip Plug HBL2621
> L6-30P
> 2 250V 30A Insulgrip Connector Body HBL2623
> L6-30R
> 3 250V 30A Single Flush Receptacle HBL2620
> L6-30R
>
> Hubbell twist-lock catalog:
> http://www.hubbell-wiring.com/new/sectionb.pdf
>
> If anyone wants to make a trade, email me directly.
>
> -Toth
>
>
