> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Doc wrote:
>
> > Yet another Microsoft Outlook exploit is on the loose... and this time the
> > arrogance of the recommended solution is breathtaking. The problem is the
> > built-in support for UUENCODED text within the body of a message. Prudent
> > programmers will use a starting pattern such as
>
> If people are still using MS Outlook inspite of all the viruses and crap
> that have plagued that pathetic piece of shit in the past few years then
> they not only deserve whatever damage gets done to their system via such
> vehicles but they shouldn't be allowed to use e-mail at all since they
> only end up contributing to the greater problem by running it!
Until the govt performs a door-to-door search for all the script
kiddies, whatever is the most-popular-and-prevalent-platform will be
the target for such attacks. You may think that Pine has no way of
being exploited (is Mark Crispin on this list?), but wait'll it's
the only thing we're using...
Seriously, Outlook isn't the source of the stated problems; half-assed,
self-taught, sycophantic sysadmins who can't secure their systems are!
Dick ---
Well, I think I may have found that guy. I need to find out if a
Digital BA 350-SA Storage Shelf is what I'm looking for...
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> From: Richard Erlacher
>
> There's a fellow who routinely sells SCA backplanes to be used in such
> applications for somewher between 6 and 15 dollars on eBay. I'd look for
> those as a starting point. ISTR that he had some for pairs of three
> drives
> and some for groups of 6. 't seems to me like that will be easier to deal
> with than a search for a complete case, which will undoubtedly require a
> redundant 500W PSU as well.
>
> Dick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Woyciesjes"
>
> > I figure I'll try here first...
> > I'm looking for a case for some SCA-80 SCSI drives I picked up. They
> > have plastic Sun drive rails, from their RAID tower, P/N 5402568-03...
> > Those rails are useless to me, and therefore up for sale/trade;
> > unless of course I can find a Sun box to use them in.
> >
> > --- David A Woyciesjes
>
Not the same thing, but similar enough to be relevant: AT&T made box (I
think with an 80486) called a StarServer. It was a Unix box and had a card
that could take two cables that went to "concentrators," which were 12 port
(IIRC) addressible serial
hubs, each with their own wall wart. The output went to a dumb terminal or
serial-interface printer. Concentrators could be daisy-chained, so at least
4 could be hooked to one card in the StarServer. I baby-sat one of these in
a law office half a dozen years ago. The concentrators were a real PITA, as
they were static sensitive -- I blew one out once with a spark while
connecting the RJ45 to a terminal once. Other times I must have looked at
the concentrator the wrong way or some such. Got to know the local AT&T/NCR
service tech pretty well :).
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:07 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: StarLink Multi-User System
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Norman Alcott wrote:
> " Introducing StarLink the computer expansion system. The system lets
> you link four "dumb" terminals or microcomputers to a single IBM
> Personal Computer, and function as if it's the only terminal connected
> to the computer."
I believe I have something similar to this stored away. It has a full size
card (can't remember if it is 8 or 16 bit, think it is 16), and a brown
molded plastic "block" with 8 25 pin D-Sub connectors on it. The block
connects to the card via a 37 pin D-Sub.
Does anyone have any information on it or have the software required to
use it?
-Toth
One of the things that I picked up this weekend was an evaluation board
for the Harris H17188 IC. I've checked Harris' site and chip directory but
I can't find anything on the H17188P. Does anyone know what this IC is?
It's in a standard .6" wide 40 pin DIP package and was made in 1995.
Joe
I have docs and software for a similar device made by Digiboard. I think
I have drivers for MS DOS, Novell and Xenix.
Joe
At 11:07 PM 2/11/02 -0600, you wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Norman Alcott wrote:
>
>> " Introducing StarLink the computer expansion system. The system lets
>> you link four "dumb" terminals or microcomputers to a single IBM
>> Personal Computer, and function as if it's the only terminal connected
>> to the computer."
>
>I believe I have something similar to this stored away. It has a full size
>card (can't remember if it is 8 or 16 bit, think it is 16), and a brown
>molded plastic "block" with 8 25 pin D-Sub connectors on it. The block
>connects to the card via a 37 pin D-Sub.
>
>Does anyone have any information on it or have the software required to
>use it?
>
>-Toth
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Claude Ceccon wrote:
>
> > Glancing at their site, they have a number of Opto-22 boards. The
> > Opto-22 series have a number of inputs and outputs all optically
> > isolated. I've got a number of the modules if you are interested...
>
> I know just about everything there is to know about Opto22 I/O systems, if
> you need any help or programming docs or anything...
I used to use Quatech I/O boards containing various Opto22 modules
(and Quatech interface boards) to build materials handling systems
(White carosels, Buschman sorters, scales, etc).
But being a programmer and not an EE, I never understood why we
needed extra load in the A/C output modules to get a light to
turn on. With just a 110v lightbulb, we'd get nothing. But when
we plugged in a soldering iron into the same circuit, it would
turn on and off as we expected.
I can no longer recall how we solved this problem... ideas?
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
> While I sympathize with you here, a couple points: 1) you
> probably got a
> real good deal on it, which is why you aren't bitching too
> loudly ;) 2)
> you did ask them to make sure it powered up and it did. They
Exactly, and 3) I got it because even in the event that it was
broken, I have another shot LD player which may benefit from a
source of spare parts. :)
> you ask them to stick a laserdics in it and play it on a TV, they will
> probably tell you "we don't have a laserdisc to test it with,
Actually, the conversation went something like that...
> Please note that I am not taking your comments as a
> disgruntled buyer, but
> am simply stating how they operate.
Well, I don't consider myself disgruntled, so that's good. I do hope
that next time I deal with them it will be more smooth.
> > There was a shipping mix-up on that item, and they sent my LD
> > player to somebody else, and send me this guy's mac clone. (I
> > think I'd rather have the Mac clone at this point, though the
> > LD player may be repairable...)
> That's not excusable, but it can be attributed to the
> shortage of people
> resources. They are run so ragged that these kinds of mistakes can
> happen unfortunately. We're working to smooth out the whole process
> though.
I attributed this to the fact that it was ordered just at the beginning
of December, and even ACCRC may have an unusually high volume of orders
at that time.
> There is one person handling the high-end workstation sales.
That's the impression I got...
> One day a
> laid-off geologist walked in and said "I want to learn some
> nifty computer
> skills" so they pointed to a pile of workstations and said
> "go to work"
> (this story is made up but I think it's at least half accurate :)
Well, it's at least half convincing, anyway.
> The guy taught himself everything about SGI, HP, DEC, etc.
> workstations
> and went about putting together and testing complete systems
> for sale on
> Aftermath. He does a pretty good job at it.
He was able to find the faulty part. Honestly, I wish I'd been
able to do that, myself, but I don't have the stack of SGI pieces
to do it :)
> That being said, I think he did his darndest to put together
> a completely
> functional system for you, and I'm sure it was when he boxed
> it up. But
> something probably happened to it in transit.
It seems so -- had you seen the condition it was in when I got it
the first time, you would be even more convinced. I think, but
can't prove, that at least part of the problem may have been UPS.
> Again, lack of resources (specifically people). These guys
> will always
> uphold their end of the deal and will NEVER screw you. You will NEVER
> feel like you got ripped off from them. This is because the
> organization
> is run by one of the most ethical, honest and
> straight-forward people I
> have ever met, James Burgett.
As far as I have dealt with them so far, that seems correct. I
should make it clear that I didn't mean to scare anyone away with
my previous message, but I wanted to give a relatively complete
picture of my dealings with them. My case is probably exceptional,
and I've heard from others who don't have nearly this much trouble.
> Again, they will only test it as far as you ask, or as far as
> they have
> the time and skills to do so. They will never misrepresent
> anything they
> have for sale.
No problem there, of course. They seem to describe their items in
complete and accurate terms.
> They are incredibly decent folk, and all of them have an expertise in
> something, and sometimes it intersects with the expertise you need to
> determine if they have what you want :)
... which is, of course, better luck than you'd have at any local
store, in my experience. ;) Or maybe I'm cursed, and just shouldn't
be allowed to make purchases.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On State Street, as Russ said. Most were south of the Loop, but there was
one in the north of the loop at Dearborn & Lake until a few years ago. Most
of the active ones are just north of the river now. (I used to work in the
Old Court House building on Hubbard & State, and there was/is one across the
street.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:06 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Dumpster in the alley.
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> Wacker for bus-only traffic and tore down the adult theaters at the SW
> corner of Wacker and State. Harold Washington College wasn;t there then,
no
They had adult theaters on Wacker Street?
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Festival
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: g(a)kurico.com [mailto:g@kurico.com]
> Has anyone tryed purchasing anything from these guys? Their
> site has come up on
> the list before.
I have. Just recently, in fact. I purchased two items -- a
laserdisc player and an SGI Indy.
The Laserdisc player was purchased with the understanding that
they'd test it to make sure it powered up. It did, however
it was trashed internally. Not a big problem, since I understood
that it might be when I purchased it.
There was a shipping mix-up on that item, and they sent my LD
player to somebody else, and send me this guy's mac clone. (I
think I'd rather have the Mac clone at this point, though the
LD player may be repairable...)
The SGI was supposed to be tested and working, but shipped to me
with some problems. The drive sled had become loose in shipping,
and somehow managed to knock the RTC out of its socket half-way.
Needless to say, it wouldn't
power up when I got it. After carefully reseating the RTC,
I managed to get it to turn on, but it wouldn't boot properly.
I ended up having to ship it back. It seems that the power
supply was bad. It was eventually replaced and sent back to
me.
The system is now in working order, however, the CD drive
I got with the system seems to be having some trouble.
(seemingly random read errors, for instance) They have
offered to ship me a second CD drive and allow me to keep
this one (which again may be repairable) for the cost of
shipping. (this is really fine with me, since I like that
drive, and I'd like to get it working for use as a spare)
At any rate, I'm expecting the new drive sometime soon.
The problem is that I placed my orders originally in early
December. They're a little slow in responding.
If you can put up with that, and with the fact that what you
order from them may not be well tested -- if my experience is
any indication -- I don't imagine you'll have a problem dealing
with them.
The prices are certainly good. They also seem like decent
people, and sometimes know what they're talking about.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On Feb 11, 18:23, Tothwolf wrote:
> There are also Differential versions of Fast, Ultra, Wide, and
Ultra-Wide.
> These use a "high voltage" (+-12VDC IIRC) signaling that is *NOT*
> compatible with standard devices.
That's not correct. Normal differential, sometimes called high voltage
differential to distinguish it from LVDS still uses 5V, same as
single-ended. It uses thresholds of 2V and 3V, zero-referenced, with a
resistive divider asthe terminator, 150 ohms from ground to signal-, 150
ohms from +V (termpower supply) to signal+, and 330 ohms between signal-
and signal+.
> You will literally fry any non HVD
> devices if you connect a HVD drive to the same bus. Ultra2 and newer have
> a Low Voltage Differential bus
Similar to normal differential but based on 3.3V instead of 5V, and the
maximum bus length is halved.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
