test-drb January 2002

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by mythtech＠Mac.com

>How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? >every computer you ever used/owned? The only computer I *owned* that I don't still have is my Lisa (it was a 2 I believe). All the others I still have, and are still operational (although not in use). Although, with the exception of my personal Mac SE, I can't say for 100% sure that the computers I have are the actual computers that were at my house growing up. There was much swapping between home and my father's company, so the ones I now have in my custody may actually have been company purchased ones, and not the "original" ones at my house (but they are all the same model... Apple II+, 128k Mac, Mac Plus and up from there) In addition, I still have in my custody at least one of every model/type of computer I have used on a regular basis (I don't count things that I sat down at somewhere, played with for 5 minutes, and then moved on). That includes things like an IBM 5110, IBM System 23, IBM PC, XT, AT, PCjr, Apple IIe, and up from there. The only things I used on a regular basis that I do NOT own (or more correctly, have in my custody, as technically I don't own things like the IBM 5110), are a Commodore PET, a Northstar (Advantage ?), and a Kaypro II. I doubt I will ever bother getting those (well, maybe a PET) because I am out of room, and have had to start to narrow down what I keep/collect... so things like a Commodore 64 was just passed on to someone else (although, someplace I have two more of them, just not complete systems like I just gave away... when I dig them up, I will pass them on as well) I also don't count things like the numurous, nameless, AT clones that have passed thru my hands... I lump them all into the "type" catagory, so my IBM AT counts for all the 286 and AT clones, and I have a 386, 486, and so on... but like some of the machines I have had to dump do to space, I will probably cease to worry about those, and narrow it down to just the ones I consider to be "cool". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 10 months

Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Joe wrote: > > Hey...On your other auction, the one for the transmission test > >set...In the leftmost rack in the background, at the top...Would that > >happen to be a TrueTime GPS, WWVB, or GOES time standard? I think I > >recognize the color and the rack handle. :) > > I have two GEOS time standards but I need antennas for them. Any idea > where I can find some? cheap? It's a circularly polarized signal so it's > not your typical antenna. Nope, I'm looking for one myself. :-( I will let you know if I find any, but I've all but given up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

Packrat genome project questions

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

First computer used: ??, fed it punchcards to do an analysis of Melanesian blood groups at Harvard grad school, 1972. First computer owned: Osborne 1, 1981. My wife wanted me to get rid of it, so I stripped out the insides so my son could fiddle with the boards (he hasn't, so I still have them intact), and tossed the case. BTW, if anyone needs parts for an O1, DD, 80 column upgrade, contact me. 2nd computer owned: Otrona Attache 8:16 -- still have (and intend to keep for a while). 1st PC: An XT-Turbo clone (1986), which I installed in a smaller than normal cherry-stained plywood box, power supply uncased and hung over the motherboard, expansion slots running side-to-side rather than front-to-back; open frame 9" monitor, bare Cherry keyboard. Still have the CPU and keyboard, tossed the monitor. Latest computers acquired: Poqet PQ-0181, HP 95LX, HP 200LX (is there a pattern here?). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Packrat genome project questions How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? every computer you ever used/owned? The first computer I ever used was a IBM 360 via punched cards in Fortran. First I ever sat in front of and worked on directly was an IBM 1130 via selectric console running a French version of APL. First I ever owned was a Apple II, which I still have. Same for the next five I owned/used; Mac Plus, Mac IIx, Mac 7200/90, Starmax 4160, and my Athlon based PC.

22 years, 10 months

TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Anybody got one for sale? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Passer, Michael W. > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:10 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > I've done it with an Atari 2600. Works great (this was with a Gateway > OEM Bt848 card.) > > --Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:41 PM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > > ! -----Original Message----- > ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] > ! > ! Simon wrote: > ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into > ! > mpg-Files, but it > ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. > ! > ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV > ! card, such as > ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to > ! view the analog > ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! > http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight > > You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display > for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something > useful... > Seriously, is anyone else doing that? > > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 > >

22 years, 10 months

a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

I wrote : >There's a bunch of manuals up already at: > http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm > >I've already let them have a few more ... the install And now that I look, it seems that the latest stuff I sent popped up today! So the HW UG, Diag guide and one (of the many?) install guides are now there. (I should point out that all I did was scan them - the credit goes to Alain Nierveze who photocopied them and posted them my way). Antonio

22 years, 10 months

Gateway Handbook [was: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > ---------- > From: Doc > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a > SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE > (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something > bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > ---------- Well, I got curious and cracked mine open... According to the User's Guide, it is IDE. And it is 2.5" size. Except one neat difference. To take care of the height restriction inside the case, they moved the drive controller board to _behind_ the drive, taken out from under it...So now it's physical size is 2.75" x 0.375"(3/8") x 6". Looks like just a special board, on a standard drive case. BTW, it's a JVC Model JDF2042M10-1. I'll have to Google that later, and see if I can find more info... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 10 months

IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > OK, Neutral, Live (or Line) and Earth (or Ground). Ok, thanks for the correction on this, by the way. > What colour are the 3 loose wires ? Try one of the following > colour sets > : > US Old UK New UK/European/International? > Earth Green Green Green/Yellow > Neutral White Black Blue > Live Black Red Brown I think it's actually blue, brown, and white. Blue being neutral, brown live, and white earth, it seems. I could take the panel off and check, but I'm not at home right now. > Of course it might be something non-standard, but if those are the > colours, it's a good bet that's how they're used. Very close to the third option above, but not quite. Maybe it's a really pale yellow ;) > wrong term (again, no meaning for 'positive' with AC), but > you've come to > the right conclusion. Well, I guess it's better to sound inexperienced than to make things explode. :) > That's how I'd wire it... Never seen one, though, so I can't > be _certain_ Well, we're in nearly the same boat here. This is the only one I've seen, and it has all the wires loose. ;) Thanks again, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Huw Davies wrote: > > > There is something to be said for not just trying to > > > run on everything under the sun - and that directly translates into > > > stability of the OS. > > > >So, suddenly windows runs stable, just because they support x86 only ? > > Well NT on Alpha was significantly more stable than NT on Intel mainly > because there were only a limited number of supported (or even available) > configurations. What amazes me about Windows is not that it crashes often > but that it runs at all given the mix of hardware that it attempts to support. The BSDs and Linux support tons of hardware too...and they're more stable than windows will ever be. I think the simple fact remains...windows just sucks. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

1520 plotter (was RE: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>"tatty polys"? It sounds British, but I have no idea what it is. tatty (adj.) - in less than pristine condition polys (n.) - white polystyrene inserts in the box used to stop your tiny games console from flying around an oversized box during transportation Personally I'm more worried about working contents rather than the MIB stuff. HTH, Antonio

22 years, 10 months

Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > It is a Neat Thing, isn' tit? Let me know if I can be of help. I have > the > > null modem cable, floppy drive, 2 power supplies... > > Didn't know there was a floppy option available.... But that would be > cheating. The challenge that started the flame war (which, of course, I > avoided completely... not) was how to make it boot a Linux kernel & > pcmcia drivers without floppy drive or CD.... > > Doc > Yep. The floppy plugs into the funny looking parallel port in the back of the Handbook, and gives you a regular parallel port, and a second serial port. I also have the battery pack that holds 6 AA batteries to power it. My two NiCd battery packs for it are dead though... Can't hold a charge really anymore. One shows a red light, instead of the amber "charging" or green "charged" light. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb January 2002