> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu]
> running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced
> Server host. There
> are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs
> might outnumber
> them.
> Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to
> anyone we're now
> full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a
> "mainframe," now
Since when is a "Win2k Advanced Server host" a mainframe? :)
That aside, though, no, it doesn't seem odd at all. It's
certainly The Right Thing To Do, WRT administrative overhead,
and maintenance/repair cost.
Strange, possibly that corporate america is starting to do
the right thing. That's never happened before, to my knowledge.
> Compared to the WinTerms, my old Wyse terminal looks so nice.
Especially when you consider that it won't run windows. :)
Regards,
Chris
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org]
> I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of
> Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780
> in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16
> drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just
> for it?).
Congratulations. Remember to put the stabilizers down before you open the doors ;)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
> White isn't a standard ground wire color. Maybe someone
> changed something
> in your machine at some point? Green is a standard ground
> wire color in
> the US, while Green with a yellow stripe meets international
> standards.
> I've seen blue/brown/white used for 240V ungrounded
> twist-lock connectors
> before, but I'm certain these machines require 120V at 20A.
Again, that's just from memory, and I could be way off...
> I'm going to attempt to uncover one of my machines today and snap some
> pics for you.
Great. Thanks.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu]
> Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a
> smaller Unix
> box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-)
> And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...)
I have been thinking about putting Minix on my Poqet PC, which would
probably take the record. ;) I need a 2M SRAM card or two, though.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com]
> I know it's not what you want to hear, but they really were
> disposable.
> Expensive, but disposable. I think people might have swapped switches
> if they were physically broken (keystems snapping off or the leaves in
> the switches getting bent from vigorous keytop insertion),
> but I do not
> have a single memory of anyone attempting electronic repair
> 20 years ago.
Not what I was hoping to hear, you're right, but it's what I was expecting.
Thanks again.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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>way cool!! 780, wow thats a cool piece of hardware!
Indeed!
>i have the installation manuals for the CI780. I can mail them to you.
>Maybe when youre done if you send them on to whoever has been scanning
>stuff in and putting it online, that would be cool..
There's a bunch of manuals up already at:
http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm
I've already let them have a few more ... the install
manual (or at least one version of it is in
on its way there now IIRC). I'll dig out the
numbers for 780 stuff in that pending batch -
save you scanning something that's already been
done!
Antonio
arcarlini(a)iee.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net]
> While passwords may be necessary in a business environment,
> they are a real pain to home-based single users or following owners.
They provide a little extra privacy from prying eyes. Of course, there
is no password that can't be circumvented somehow, given access to the
console, or, in a worst case, the system itself.
> I mean, really, I'm in the middle of nowhere in northern Manitoba,
> in a house where I live alone with a protective dog, and only hook up
> to my ISP when I want to access it. Do I need this ? But even my
You could turn it off. :)
> NEXT demands a password and I had to do an extensive search to find
> out how to re-do the original one. But of course the holy grail of
> computer makers is that BIG contract.
Any unix I've ever met will let you blank the password out... it will
still ask for it, but you can just hit return.
> complicate my life. I thought that that's one of the things
> that computers
> were for. To uncomplicate tasks and processes. On my computers
Certainly they make higher math and weather modeling much easier. ;)
> I DON"T NEED NO STEENKING PASSWORDS.
> Windblows is the least of the transgressors. The UNIX type
> are the worst
> since they grew up in a security-conscious business environment.
Lots of unixes even have an "auto-login" feature.
> Right now after going thru a difficult Linux Red-Hat install
> I can't find the
> slip I wrote the password it insists upon, and must do a
> fresh install.
Actually you may be able to boot in single user mode without a
password. Try it.
> Fuck it, I'll reformat and look at another OS.
> I believe that OS's or programs that don't provide
> non-password access
> should be boycotted.
Well, again, just because it asks for a password, doesn't mean you've
got to use one...
> Do these guys really think that passwords can protect their data if
> they don't have physical access protection ? We all know that even
> supposedly deleted files can be ressurected. This is SUIT mentality
> and they live in an imaginary world that they proclaim is the BOTTOM
> LINE, realistic view of things. As MS has learned to it's
> chagrin every
> man-made "security" feature can be end-run by some bright young
> hacker.
Um, well, certainly any MS security feature can be circumvented by a
blindfolded, dyslexic baboon. :)
You are also right that there is a way around any security control,
given physical access to the system. That really isn't the point of
software security, though.
I do realize that you are likely to be ranting due to frustration, but
if nothing else, try blanking out some of your passwords and
save yourself some of that trouble. :)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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Thanks--I have heard from 3 people in the general vicinity. The one who replied
first will also probably get my old Rainbow, just "thrown in."
I'm delighted with how "common" 9-track drives (and, presumably, ones connected
to UNIX machine) seem to be. I haven't seen one in years, although I haven't
hung out in computer rooms the way I used to, either....
--pb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com]
> "4", etc. If
> only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online
> in receive-only
> mode (ie it's useful as a display).
It does that... :) Would like to type things, though.
Chris
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