test-drb August 2001

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Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....)

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

They left the desktop market (IDE, some scsi) and are retaining the "Enterprise" market 'At 08:27 AM 8/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >Didn't Fujitsu just (within the last week) exit the hard disk market? Or >was it just desktop (IDE) drives?

23 years, 4 months

SemiOT: Mourning for Classic Computing (Was: RE: PeeCee turns 20) [longish]

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Where on earth are LARTs illegal?!? And how did this come to pass?!? > > At the time of writing, I was thinking of a thermonuclear LART... Fussion tends to eradicate the memory of the pain, so I stick with bamboo LARTs... when not in LART mode, it's backscratcher, so no one realizes the potential.... -dq

23 years, 4 months

SemiOT: Mourning for Classic Computing (Was: RE: PeeCee turns 20) [longish]

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > And as to lusers with a little too much knowledge... yeah, they can be > > a problem, and a LART's not always at hand... > > ...or worth the resulting jail time! :-) Where on earth are LARTs illegal?!? And how did this come to pass?!? > > Well, you won't get much disagreement from me here... but I've seen > > COBOL code that was more spaghetti'd out than the worst BASIC I've > > seen... > > BASIC is an OK starting point for someone who's destined to be a good > programmer. Its problem is that it doesn't do enough to weed out the bad > ones, who will then progress furthur into the trade on the false > assumption that they have what it takes. I reference my previous post > about assembly language... ;-D Total agreement... -dq

23 years, 4 months

Desperately looking for an X11 server for Inmos G300-based boards

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I am looking for X11R5 source code for the IMSB020 (aka "Bozo") graphics motherboard (contains a IMSG330) OR any other transputer-based X11 source code. Either that, or at least an implementation of an X11 server for the IMSG3xx chipset. I have the source code to the Helios OS for the transputer, but not the source to their X11R4 implementation. So, I want to port the X11R6.6 code over, but I also want an XServer as well. I believe John Honniball said he had it, but he never responds to me emails :-( Any help would help every transputer user. Thanks for your respond... Ram PS: I think the Amiga Visiona used the IMSG33x chipset, so that might help. But I couldnt find anything on the net.... -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

23 years, 4 months

He's just checking-in . . .

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:16:13 -0700 (PDT) "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> writes: > Historical? trivia: Coming into Baltimore from the south (on the > parkway, > long after passing GSFC and NSA), just as you reached Baltimore, > there was > a big clock tower. What did that clock have instead of numbers? O R M B O S R E E L Z T I love Baltimore. It's my favourite city.

23 years, 4 months

PDP-8/i Question

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

OK, How the hell do you tell if the thing is negative or positive bus? I need to know this before I go and buy some peripherals... Thanks, Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

23 years, 4 months

SemiOT: Mourning for Classic Computing

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'd tend to agree, in general. However, I think something like MIPS > assembly (such as that taught in CS courses at UIUC) might work well as a > "learners" language, and doesn't require knowing TOO much of the hardware > (aside from the registers / memory distinction, which could be taught using > a "file cabinet / cubbyholes" analogy). Was the MIPS a true 3-address machine (or do I mean 3-operand?)? Or am I thinking of the NS32000 family? > But, yeah, I'd say BASIC is still a pretty good language to see if someone > can "get" programming -- provided that someone moves to a structured > language quickly if he or she wishes, instead of getting into bad > programming habits (as I did for a while). I grudgingly agree. Niklaus Wirth thought that BASIC hopelessly polluted a mind from every being a good programmer. I, too, think that's harsh, probably because I also started with (a superset of) BASIC, and wrote journal articles for two years for The Cobb Group's Inside Microsoft BASIC and Inside Quickbasic. And every time I think I've finally put it behind me, it creeps back into my life. Most recently, TOPS-10 BASIC running on a simulated DECSYSTEM-2020 (KS-10) (fixing MONPLY.BAS). -dq

23 years, 4 months

He's just checking-in . . .

by cfandt＠netsync.net

Just a brief report I'm passing on from Hans Franke who is wending his way Westward on his cross-country motorcycle journey to VCF 5.0. He reports he's been having a great time so far after he'd picked up the bike at the Baltimore seaport around a week or so ago. He came up through the York, PA area up to the North-Central PA area, thence Westward towards Jamestown. Stayed in our front yard in his rather interesting camper arrangement over Friday and Saturday night. He's got a small AutoCamp folding tent bolted to the top of the cargo box. The neighborhood up and down our dead end street was certainly curious about such an odd looking rig not to say the other motorcycle riders who had seen him riding through town. They seemed to drive off the side of the road while studying Hans' rig. Bev and I took him to his first live rodeo on Saturday night which is a fairly major Eastern rodeo on the PRCA professional circuit (http://gerryrodeo.org/). Always a good time there for all -especially the barbecue beef dinners the rodeo organizers put on. Personally, I like the pretty cowgirls in their Wrangler jeans ;-) Hans really had fun that day. We got him a Sprint PCS cellphone on my own SS and drivers license numbers (silly outfit couldn't take his German passport number for ID after he arrived in NYC). Seemingly the best coverage across the USA plus a rather reasonable deal for what he's going to use it. So now he's got communication when that Russian-made three-wheel cycle breaks down out at the head of nowhere ;-) We got the rear door hinge welded properly by one of my friends after it broke during the sea trip over. Hans figures the welder in the Ural factory had too much vodka that day. He should be down towards Columbus, OH at this time if he was able to get in contact with Ethan. Watch out Sellam and gang! The mad Bavarian is on his way West if that underpowered Ural engine can pull itself over the Rockys and if all the bolts don't rattle out of it! Regards, Chris -- -- Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

23 years, 4 months

Wanted : 8" boot disk for TRS80 Model II

by claudew＠videotron.ca

I have fanilly gotten around to checking this model II/expansion box that was saved from garbage truck. Very clean, no crt burn and a missing keyboard problem that was solved by Hans Franke sending one he had all the way from Germany! Id like to show this thing off a bit more then just turning it on and seeing ask for a disk....I dont think Ill be able to boot this from 5.25" 1.2M drives connected to this... The unit came with a single 8" diskette that does not boot (written "accounts receivable"). I dont know if its the floppy drive that is bad or its not a bootable diskette or....internal 8" floppy drive looks "alive" anyways... So I am asking if anyone as a easy way of making an 8" boot disk in this situation or would be nice enough to provide me with one. Id like to get at least one. Better would be one of each OS this thing ran and a few softs. I have a fairly large "for trade/giveaway" list of witch you could pick something to thank you for the troubles... Thanks Claude http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector

23 years, 4 months

Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....)

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

"Messick, Gary" <Gary.Messick(a)itt.com>@classiccmp.org on 08/15/2001 08:27:07 AM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> cc: Subject: RE: Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....) Didn't Fujitsu just (within the last week) exit the hard disk market? Or was it just desktop (IDE) drives? > -----Original Message----- > From: Master of all that Sucks [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:48 PM > To: Glenatacme(a)aol.com > Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....) > > > > Well, it usually the large-capacity (4.5+ GB) older > workstation drives. > One good way to find out is to ask Fujitsu. It's the path I normally > take. > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 Glenatacme(a)aol.com wrote: > > > More information about this, please? If I find a Fujitsu > drive how can I > > tell if the lifetime warranty applies to that drive? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Glen > > 0/0 > > > =========================================================================== Yup - The Register (A British IT mag) just had an article on it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/20799.html "Fujitsu bows out of desktop hard drive fight By Robert Blincoe Posted: 02/08/2001 at 14:37 GMT Fujitsu is ditching the desktop hard disk market to concentrate on the notebook and server sectors where it believes it can make more money. The company will quit making desktop hard drives later this year. Mike Chenery, VP of Fujitsu Computer Products of America, acknowledged things had been difficult because of low margins, the markets' slow growth, and because Fujitsu hadn't been one of the first players competing in the sector. Fujitsu's competitors are IBM, Maxtor, Seagate, Western Digital, and Samsung in the desktop drive market. Interestingly, back in May, Paul Griffin, IBM's EMEA VP for its Technology Group, predicted it would be Samsung and Western Digital which would bow out of the sector first. He felt Fujitsu had deep enough pockets and technology ownership to last out the margin fight. Fujitsu had lost market share in the first half of 2001, and was in fifth place with to nine per cent. ? "

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