test-drb August 2001

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Who reads their email the most Classically?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Curt Vendel" <curt(a)atari-history.com> wrote: > Is anyone running any internet connected lynx servers with dialup > capability??? I've wanted to do this myself as many older Atari 8-bit > groups would like access for email and newsgroup reading to stay connected > with the online Atari communities. They're called "shell accounts". Yes, they exist as commercial offerings. For example, Panix in NYC (http://www.panix.com/) and a2i communications in the San Francisco Bay Area (http://www.rahul.net/). -Frank McConnell

23 years, 4 months

Big Iron

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Is there somebody out there with space to get this "microcomputer": http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1625704207 Greetings Sergio

23 years, 4 months

PDP-8/i Question

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>From: "Will Jennings" <xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com> > >OK, >How the hell do you tell if the thing is negative or positive bus? I need to >know this before I go and buy some peripherals... > If the lower rows have M650/M651 then it is negative bus. I'm sure your's is positive bus so you won't be going after the stuff I want :-). David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights. Have any PDP-8 stuff you're willing to part with?

23 years, 4 months

WTB/T: hp-21 battery pack anyone?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Well since it appears I'll be holding on to this calculator, and I've verified that it does indeed work if I kludge up a battery pack. Does anyone have a spare HP battery pack I could buy/trade for? It doesn't particularly matter if the pack is dead, we can rebuild it :-) --Chuck

23 years, 4 months

Fwd: Apple IIgs rescue in Florida

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>From: Compnavi(a)aol.com >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:13:23 EDT >Subject: Computer Donation >To: jfoust(a)threedee.com > >Mr. Foust - > >Due to the fact that computers have so drastically revolutionized the world >and the way we live, and due to the fact that proper history of computers and >a collection demonstrating this history will be more valuable than a >collection of historical automobiles or planes, or any item collected >previously, it would be my pleasure to offer you a piece of computer history >for your collection. > >I would like to donate to your museum a perfectly working and complete Apple >IIgs setup. ? This setup includes the computer itself, the standard issue >Apple monitor, a 5.25" floppy drive, a 3.5" floppy drive, a dot-matrix >printer, and a full suite of software. The software diskettes still sit in >their original boxes. ? The equipment is in perfect condition ??? neither a >scratch nor a crack to be seen. All is Apple brand equipment purchased at >the same time. > >The IIgs became a staple in classrooms around the country, and in American >homes. ? Its role as one of the first computers to be mass-produced and >integrated into education deserves special recognition. ? As a member of the >teen generation ??? a generation that has grown up with Apple and the IIgs ??? >this computer is a part of our history, and part of our memory. Just as >exhibits regarding the fifties and sixties make the baby boomers blush and >remember fondly their childhood when regarding tinker toys, Lincoln Logs, and >tin lunch boxes ??? and then remember Armstrong stepping on the moon, Kennedy >being shot, and King???s great words, my generation will look back at our >computers, and other electronic amusements, and wander back to a time we long >to remember ??? and yet we might not have such great men and shining moments to >draw an association to. ? Our technological triumph may be the only great >endeavor of my generation's childhood, but its effect will be long lasting. > >Use the Apple IIgs I offer you in an exhibit now, or store it for display >later, but please don't let it end up where it is currently destined: the >county dump. > >Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or assorted points >of inquiry. > >Sincerely, > >? - Josh Mendelsohn > >_________________________ >Joshua Marc Mendelsohn >3101 North 47th Avenue >Hollywood, FL 33021 >(954) 962-0505 >compnavi(a)aol.com

23 years, 4 months

Down-under articles on retrocomputing

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:38:13 +1000 >From: Nathan Cochrane <ncochrane(a)theage.fairfax.com.au> >Reply-To: ncochrane(a)theage.fairfax.com.au >Organization: The Age newspaper >To: "Nathan Cochrane (E-mail)" <ncochrane(a)theage.fairfax.com.au> >Subject: Many thanks for your help on the emulation article > >Once again, my deep appreciation for your help in compiling the >article(s), which you will find online at: > >Bernie's lost in time >Bernie Meyer flips a CD-ROM into his PC and, in an instant, turns it >into a time machine. Within a few seconds an old friend ? a red and >white chequered ball ? bounces around the screen. Welcome to Amiga, >circa 1985. >http://www.it.mycareer.com.au/news/2001/08/14/FFX6PT25BQC.html > >When I grow up I'll be a Mac >Emulators fall into the category of virtual machines, a class that takes >in Sun Microsystems' Java. The emulator software makes a PC, Macintosh, >Linux or any other desktop think it's another computer or console game >system. >http://www.it.mycareer.com.au/news/2001/08/14/FFXAYW25BQC.html > >Going retro >It was a humble Sinclair Spectrum computer that, nearly two decades ago, >nudged the teenage Pierre Scotney on to a path of programming and logic >that he hopes will lead to a gene therapy for heart disease. >http://www.it.mycareer.com.au/news/2001/08/13/FFXGPU25BQC.html > >If you have problems getting a hard copy of today's paper, let me know >and I will organise to have one sent to you. > >This is the first of two packages on emulation and retrocomputing. The >second will appear in the Livewire supplement embedded in the Green >Guide liftout, probably in the next 13-20 days. > >All the best > >Nathan

23 years, 4 months

Need ST506-based HD (20MByte or 55MByte)

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, Does anyone have a spare ST506-based HD laying around unused. I am specifically looking for a 20MByte or 55Mbyte in size. Here is the models I am specifically looking for: NEC D3126 Olivetti HD352 But any would do. I am planning on reviving a TMB05 transputer disk controller (M212-based transputer tram motherboard with a ST506 disk drive interface). This is just one of the many missing pieces. The board is basically unsocketed, so it is missing a lot of chips, etc including the M212. I found a source for the M212, but still need a HD. Thanks, Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

23 years, 4 months

SemiOT: Mourning for Classic Computing

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:15:53 -0400 Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> writes: > We had a kid in the neighborhood who was a great show-off... > he used to ride his bicycle head-on at cars, doing a wheely, > then veer off at the last second. Hey! That could have been me! We put together a bike from misc parts, but didn't have a proper rear wheel (a 'front' wheel was substituted). The result? The Kamikaze Bike: No Brakes. No Pedals. No Fear. I piloted that sucker down the street in front of our house (it was a fairly steep hill). I crashed and burned into a hedge at the bottom, but oooooh what a rush. > I figured if he survived to adulthood, then there'd be a > job in marketing for him. Well, I survived into adulthood, and became a programmer-- go figure. > Marketing merely raises the ultimate costs of a product, so > perhaps you'll understand why I don't have a very high > opinion of it. Or of a generation or programmers who rose > to serve marketing's needs. Marketing has another *very* undesirable effect-- It allows lousy products to succeed, and good products to fail (for lack of). I would rant and rave about how these 'successful' products then frequently become 'standards', but I won't beat that rotting, stinking horse anymore. OB Classic: Yesterday I scored a VaxStation 4000/90 with 2 x 600mb drives, and 128Mb of RAM (or thereabouts-- it has 8 x 16Mb simms). Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

23 years, 4 months

Who reads their email the most Classically?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I am of the school of thought that figures the only reason for quoting > previous content is to provide context so the new message will make > sense. Following this reasoning, the context should be established > first. HOWEVER, it is very important to trim the quote so that it > only provides enough context and doesn't go overboard and turn into > spam. Ever seen the TV program "The West Wing"? They start most > programs with a short "previously on The West Wing..."-bit. It comes > first (so the following program will make sense) and it is shorter > than the new program (even though it covers more territory--the idea > is that it be the new stuff that is important). I hate to be such a ditto-head, but... what Kent said. -dq

23 years, 4 months

Dead PC

by technos＠nerdland.org

Any fine metal cleaner should work, just apply with a Q-Tip and rinse well with water. IBM uses a dilute phosphoric acid solution, as does HP. I normally use 00 or finer steel wool, and just a little. I've also used commercial jewelery cleaner, and above mentioned Q-Tip.. Jim On Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:30 AM, Chad Fernandez [SMTP:fernande@internet1.net] wrote: > pull > the socketed ram chips and clean them. I have heard of some Apple // > guys using some sort of cleaner on chips.... I think it was something > like TarnX, or something found at the grocery store. Maybe Tony > could > recommend something, too. > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > > Matt Wilda wrote: > > > I sold the PC on Ebay after I was tired of it. > > > > Yeah, I'm the guy that bought it :-) This is your old PC. BTW, a > > friend of mine was able to get me another monitor for it. > > > > I'll try messing with it a little more this afternoon. Thanks to > > everyone for the suggestions.

23 years, 4 months

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