claude id love to get these, ive not much to trade but would be willing to
pay you for them. Let me know
Thanks
Jim
>From: "Claude.W" <claudew(a)videotron.ca>
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Amiga magazines free/trade
>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:13:10 -0400
>
>More Amiga mags to donate or trade. These are all clean:
>
>Amiga Transactor: 89: Jan, Oct, April, Sep, July, June, Feb, March, April
>also Jun 88
>
>Amigo Times : Issue' 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8,.1.9
>
>Always looking for 8/16 bit micros or semi-recent SGI or SUN
>machines/hardware...
>
>Claude
>http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector
>
>
>
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> Fred said:
> > How about type balls
>
> I believe for the Selectric, being IBM, they would be blue.
Postings are down, severe belly cramps again?
;-)
-dq
Hi,
I'm going to go on vacation with a car driving from Indy through
OH, PA, NY to New Haven, CT, so I'll be close to everything on the
east coast. Will visit NY city too. Now the question is anything
VAX going on there? Do you know of any places where one could
go browse and may be find stuff? Anyone who always wanted to get
rid of something but was too afraid to ask? :-) I am especially
interested in finding an RA90 or 92 somewhere just so to pick up
so I finally can actually run my VAX 6460. I can store and ship
larger items too. If I could find a star-coupler or a TU81+ that
would be super cool. Of course I wouldn't mind tripping over a
nice 11/785 :-) There's got to be something on the east coast,
right?
thanks for your suggestions,
-Gunther
--
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Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
> >What I don't like is dog-and-pony shows, too much sturm und drang.
>
> It's all about sturm und drang.
We had a kid in the neighborhood who was a great show-off...
he used to ride his bicycle head-on at cars, doing a wheely,
then veer off at the last second.
I figured if he survived to adulthood, then there'd be a
job in marketing for him.
> Programming contests are another deal. They're just about academic
> programming. Demos are more like MTV on a computer screen.
Yeah, and I always considered MTV to be one big marketing
outlet. At least I appear to have this in perspective now...
I've always believed that consumers should research the products they
purchase, and that a good product will sell itself. Marketing merely
raises the ultimate costs of a product, so perhaps you'll understand
why I don't have a very high opinion of it. Or of a generation or
programmers who rose to serve marketing's needs.
Regards,
-dq
> Douglas Quebbeman skrev:
>
> >> But then is Pascal that bad?
>
> >Bad? Bad at what? bad *for* what?
>
> We were discussing beginner's languages and alternative to BASIC.
I do think it's less likely for someone to pick up bad
programming habits if they start with Pascal, but that's
not an absolute, just a probability thing.
> I think the interpreter makes BASIC unequalled pedagogically.
If you like the immediacy of the interpreter environment,
you should try programming in Smalltalk-80. Typing an
expression, selecting it, and choosing DO IT (or PRINT IT)
>from the context menu is almost as fast as
?"This is a test"
-dq
Various people wrote:
> CESIL (Computer Education in Schools Instructional Language),
Ha ha, I'd forgotten about that one... I remember typing in a CESIL
interpreter into the Speccy from some magazine or other. It
was even slower than ZX BASIC though so I gave up on it after a couple
of weeks..
> If the eight-bitters had booted into Pascal, perhaps things would have
> looked differently?
For me the immediacy of an interpreted language was what made it fun, and
therefore encouraged me to find out more about programming.
We were taught PASCAL and 6809 assembly in my first year at college, both
excellent learning languages (one for high-level structured programming and
the other for the low-level 'how a computer computes' stuff) - both were
nowhere near as much fun as BASIC because you had to compile/assemble them
before you could "do anything". A lot of the time was spent learning the
language syntax ("why does it need a semicolon here" or "why does the opcode
need to go at least one space in") rather than learning programming
concepts, which I found a bit distracting. OK nowadays it's not a big deal
to pick up a new language, but when I was just starting out learning
non-intuitive rules about semicolons was quite a headache.
Compare the possible pitfalls in here (what are INPUT, OUTPUT? why no
semicolon after BEGIN and WHILE (TRUE)? why a full stop after the last END?
what does 'while true' really mean anyway? etc)
PROGRAM SayHello(INPUT, OUTPUT)
BEGIN
WHILE (TRUE)
BEGIN
WRITELN('Hello World');
END;
END.
when compared to this:
10 PRINT "Hello World"
20 GOTO 10
BASIC's appeal was its simplicity and immediacy. I don't agree with Wirth
that it pollutes the mind irrevocably either, I mostly use C++ or Java these
days and never have to use the much-maligned 'goto'. The only time I use
global data is for the occasional acceptable (even trendy!) "singleton"
design pattern :-)
--al
PS I guess my mind has been polluted though, I'd rather hack 68K any day ;-)
More Amiga mags to donate or trade. These are all clean:
Amiga Transactor: 89: Jan, Oct, April, Sep, July, June, Feb, March, April
also Jun 88
Amigo Times : Issue' 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8,.1.9
Always looking for 8/16 bit micros or semi-recent SGI or SUN
machines/hardware...
Claude
http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector
In a message dated 8/17/01 12:21:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pechter(a)bg-tc-ppp389.monmouth.com writes:
>
> I've got a nice one (SLC I think) here... I added 64mb (4 16mb) of 72 pin
> parity simms and it works great if anyone's interested in a sparc in
> a mono monitor.
>
> I've also got an IPX (64mb of memory) available if anyone's interested.
>
> Bill
Heck yeah Bill!
-Linc Fessenden
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
