test-drb July 2001

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Someone please give a ride to Max Eskin to VCF East

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm forwarding this along for Max Eskin. I hope someone can give this poor kid a ride. I would really like him to make VCF East. I guess he's around Boston. E-mail him at <max82(a)altavista.com> to figure something out. Thanks! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Max Eskin <max82(a)altavista.com> I realized that I have no way of getting to the VCF. There's no way in hell that my parents will let me drive there, and I don't want to ask my dad to drive me either. It's about an hour away from my house. So could you perhaps forward me some kind of list of people living in the boston area whom I could contact and ask for rides? I e-mailed Allison Parent, but she hasn't responded. I don't remember who else from classiccmp lives around here. Thanks, Max Eskin -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

23 years, 5 months

Computer recycling info.

by rdd＠smart.net

Sorry to mention such an unpleasant subject as computer recycling, but here's some more information about what some politicians and businesses, etc. are up to: http://www.ec-central.org/skinny/022201.htm Denver Post: "Bill Encourages Computer Recycling;" By Andy Vuong It may also provide some leads for collecting and preserving equipment. I hope this helps some with some good finds. -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

23 years, 5 months

Kodak Gold CD-R's going bye-bye?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> One of the major heartburns I have with CD-R media is that >it's quite difficult to tell the good from the bad. That was my point #1: Buy a product that you know with a known distribution path from the manufacturer. That's why I like Kodak over Mitsui. (Not that it'd be impossible to find a list of official Mitsui dealers, but Kodak has a bunch of old-school distributors who work just fine for me. And there have been rumors - with little to nothing to back them up - that many of the Mitsui-branded disks being sold in the US now were actually made in one of the lower-tier plants in Taiwan.) > disks don't all measure up the same. I tend to buy them in very > small amounts so that I don't get burned too badly if they turn out > to be lemons. OTOH I buy in quantities of 500-1000 every few months, and I don't want to take the risk with that amount of money that I'm buying junk. Sometimes I do buy a spindle of the cheap junk just to see who made it that week. The Imation stuff (yes, Imation, the company that used to be the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing company that made top-name media for years) was crappy CMC Magnetics junk according to the ATIP code the week I bought it, and I've not touched their branded CD-R's since. The IBM no-names (hey, you ought to tell that I've got high standards when I call IBM a risky also-ran!) turned out to be Ricoh phthalocyanine disks, so sometimes the cheap junk might not be all that bad. > CompUSA used to sell some nice dark blue dye disks >under their name but then I made the mistake of buying one of their >bulk packs which turned out to use the light green dye and were >really crappy. I'd gladly pay the additional money if I had a >concise guide as to just which were the high quality media. Lose the CompUSA junk. They do light up nicely in the Microwave, though :-). Tim.

23 years, 5 months

EOM Clearance (aka free stuff in Indiana)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

EOM Clearance (aka free stuff in Indiana) Having cleared most of the machines out of my 10x20 rental storage, I have decided to clear it all out and vacate it by the end of the month. Following is a list of what's available, some of it in storage, some here at home. All this is available for free to those that come pick it up. I'm located a few miles south of Terre Haute, Indiana. FREE, FOR PICKUP ONLY: ------------------------------------------------------------ DEC: VAXstation 2000's - There are six of these, one is a recent one and untested. The other five have been test fired using a VR260 and all found to work and complete the self-test OK. None of these machines have a disk drive. Have an LK201 keyboard, hockey puck mouse and the BC18P combination video/kb/mouse cable for most of these machines. MicroVAX 2000 - There is one of these, completely diassembled and in a box. Also have a spare MS400 2mb board and this is unused still in original box. This goes in the 2000. Also have two TK50Z-FA tape boxes. VT220 - Have 4, none have been tested. Includes LK201 kb. VT320 - Have 1, has not been tested. Includes LK201 kb. DS200 Terminal Server - 3 ea DELNI - around 6 ea On the DS200's & DELNI's, don't forget to ask about MMJ and AUI cables, I am sure I can include a cable or two. ------------------------------------------------------------ VME: Motorola Model VME/10 System Contains: 1 ea MVME400 board 1 ea MVME201 boards Micropolis 1304 43mb hard drive, untested Also have a monitor, but no video cable. Believe the keyboard is around here somewhere. Also have a machine around here that is a plain white case with a VME motherboard and several cards. Beyond that I have forgotten and it is too dang hot right now to go pop the hood on it. If you are interested, I will see what I can do to get more info when it cools in the evening. Jupiter Technologies - There used to be a company in Massachusetts that made was commonly referred to a UGC (Universal Gateway Controller). It amounts to a box that can interface to various network protocols and convert them to other protocols using 'softblocks'. I have a few complete units and more spare boards than I can count. I rescued them due to the VME boards only to realize that each processor card contained a Jupiter proprietary 160 pin chip. I doubt what they would be as much use to the hobbyist aside from pulling the CPUs, SIMMs, and Eproms. I list them here in the event you come after some other VME stuff. These might then be of interest. ------------------------------------------------------------ IBM: Model 5182 Personal Computer Color Printer Parallel Interface, dot matrix 132 column This works, but needs a new ribbon ------------------------------------------------------------ Hewlett Packard: Model 2631G 132 column dot matrix printer This has a 24 pin connector, IIRC GPIB interface. Condition unknown. ------------------------------------------------------------ Intel: Have a couple IBM PC/XT's with 5 1/4 full height floppies and 10 mb HDs. No IBM kb's, video cards, or monitors though. Have been tested and do work. Have an IBM AT, IIRC this has been tested and works. Beyond that there is the usual Intel flotsam. Various boxes, 286, 386, and the like. ------------------------------------------------------------ Misc flotsam: Who knows what is here. There are some hard drives, tape drives, keyboards, mice, and the like. There is too much to list separately. If you come and pick up some of the stuff above, we will make a tour of the basement and see what turns up. ---------------------------------------- I feel like I have forgotten some stuff. So we'll start with this and go from here. Mike Thompson

23 years, 5 months

New Toy - Poly 88

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

Received a new system today, a partially built Poly-88. Came with the mainboard and case, an assembled 8080A CPU board and an unassembled video interface and all the parts to finish it all up. Came with cassette BASIC, Monitor and Assembler and doc too. Great shape! It will be interesting because it will be the first time I've actually assembled a system from the ground up. Need to find some other boards, memory and such still. Now to clear space to work on it. ----- "What is, is what?" "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

23 years, 5 months

Available: 4 ISA or MCA swappable DCA ethernet cards

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

I have dug out 4 identical NICs - made by DCA and they are flipover style, having an 8 bit ISA connector on one side and microchannel on the other. They only have the ISA backplate and they aren't tested. No docs or software but anyone familiar with them will probably want them. They should be in working order as they came from machines that came right off the network to the pallet lot sale except that the hard drives were wiped (hence no drivers). They are 10baseT and 10base2 having an RJ45 and BNC on the end. I want $5 for ALL FOUR plus whatever applicable shipping would be. I would prefer to keep this to the US and Canada but anyone over the big pond is welcome to inquire and we'll see what shipping might be and if it's worth it. Of course all monies would have to be paid in US funds.

23 years, 5 months

Winchester Technology (was Re: MicroVAX equipment

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 19, William Donzelli wrote: > > There are two reasons...First, it was developed in Winchester, > > England, and stored 30MB on each of two platter surfaces. Second, the > > model number, 3030, made people think of the Winchester model 3030 > > rifle. > > The model is 3340, not 3030. 3340s (and 3344s) are odd things - the > platters are lubricated with silicone based oil, and the removable disk > packs (3348s) _include_ the heads. When the disk pack is mounted (which > can be done by hand, for maintenance), a rather complicated series of > events connects the heads' wires, the air supply is sealed, and the whole > head assembly is aligned so it floats on a cushion of air. I've seen references to "3030" in many books over the years...I'm nowhere near old enough to have been there though. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 5 months

Unisys Personal Workstation 2 Stuf & DSDD 5.25" floppies

by terryc＠woa.com.au

Hi folks I have two sets of manuals and one set of software (1 x 5.25" & 1 x 3.5" floppies) for Unisys Personal Workstation2. circa 1990. It is available for postage/shipping to whomever wants it. Weight is 2.6Kg, say 3Kg packed for shipping, from Campbelltow, NSW, Australia, 2560. Dumpster Date is Wed 1st August if no interest shown. Also available are; 20 boxes of 10 Double sided, double density 48tpi 5.25" floppies. DOS brand(?) 18 of these are un opened, 2 opened and 3 other packs. Cost is shipping, say 300grams/box packed for shipping. Dumpster date is Wed 1st August. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: terryc(a)woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au WOA Computer Services <lan/wan, linux/unix, novell> "People without trees are like fish without clean water"

23 years, 5 months

Kodak Gold CD-R's going bye-bye?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

> What makes these Kodak CD-Rs so much better than other CD-R media? Five things: 1. Made by a known manufacturer using a well-tested process. 2. Manufacturer has archival information available. 3. Uses phthalocyanine dye, rather than the much less stable cyanine. 4. Gold reflective layer. Some here have had very bad experiences with aluminum and/or silver reflective area in videodiscs and CD's. 5. Nicely protected top surface. The Kodak "Silver Plus" Ultras have all the above except for #4, so they're not so bad. And even on point #4, I do think Eastman Kodak does have at least a little experience with silver compounds after, what, 100+ years in the photographic industry? And there are other makers of Gold media - Mitsui is a very big name, though availability is less than ideal, and Ricoh seems to be in the business as well. All that said, it is frustrating to see what is widely regarded as one of the most archival media available - made by a huge company with a long history in materials science and information storage - bite the dust in mass availability because it costs a few more cents than the el-cheapo stuff. Tim.

23 years, 5 months

HP98035 Clock

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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