On July 23, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> --- Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> > For those of you interested, a PDP8a has appeared for sale on eBay.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1257927980
>
> I notice the seller didn't forget the obligitory "*RARE*"
As annoying as "*RARE*" has become on eBay, I've seen exactly ONE of
those front panels...and I've been actively hacking pdp8s for nearly
twenty years. YMMV.
-Dave McGuire
On July 23, Bill Bradford wrote:
> > For those of you interested, a PDP8a has appeared for sale on eBay.
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1257927980
> > Jeff
>
> Interesting. I didnt know they made -8s with the "minimalist" console..
The 8/a was the last of the pdp8 family. There were several
versions of it. It's an interesting design.
-Dave McGuire
> Have you checked americal.com, their web pages still have these listed
> so I assum ethey are available. use the product finder, type in "kodak
> digital audio gold' and you will find 2 items, a 30 pack for $49.99 and
> a 200 pack for $299.99
But those are CD-R's intended for Digital Audio, not Data. I know they
can be used for data, but I'd obviously prefer to have the data CD-R's
available too.
A couple of places still list Kodak Gold Ultima CD-R (data, not audio)
as being discontinued but still in stock, including www.cdroutlet.com.
It's a shame that such a fine storage media gets displaced by all the
el-cheapo-will-probably-deteriorate-in-a-decade-or-so cheap stuff
that's everywhere. It's as if folks don't believe that 650 MBytes of
data is worth a couple bucks anymore, just because they can store it
on 15 cent media for a couple years.
They've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of
which is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia", but only slightly
less famous is this: "Never confuse the cost of the media with the value of
the data".
Tim.
One find this week, a C128. These new rules about the electronics
manufacturers taking the responsiblity for discarded hardware doesn't seem as
bad as it might, since the recycling station now has a dedicated skip for
computers, home electronics and CRTs.
However, the C128 only starts up with a black screen. The common VIC border is
visible, but the screen is entirely black/grey instead of brown, and no text
or prompts. What could be up here? Broken kernal (is it spelt with an A on
Commodores?), broken BASIC, broken VIC?
BTW, there's been a demo party in the building where I live this weekend. Lots
of Polish hackers sleeping in the corridors and the garden, lots of C64s, and
the things they did with them! Absolutely amazing! Voxel landscapes, fire
effects, resolutions which I never thought possible of a VIC... Definitely
worth visiting if one comes to your town. This was just a small party, though,
mainly C64, instead of the "3000 PC users play Quake 3 Arena" parties common
today.
They also ran some Game Boy demos, but that's not on topic. =)
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
Haben Sie schon mal einen Wegweiser gesehen, der selbst den Weg geht, den er
weist?
--- Ludwig XV (K?nig von Frankreich, 1710-1774)
> ISDN
> My nightmares have almost subsided from these installations. If you hear
> the work ISDN start drinking immediately. The installation crews want to
> leave all of the problems to the service crews. Configuring ISDN modems is
> a nightmare, SPID=profanity.
ISDN == I'm Still Drinking, Ned...
I've decided to thin the herd some so the following is available
for best offer or trade.
* Visual 1050 system (x2) complete, hard disks, floppies, docs
and tech manuals. Must pick up as it's two systems and
fairly large/heavy with docs and all. Both work one prettier than
the other, many spares.
* S100 backplane for rackmount use. No PS. Nice decent bus.
Pickup only, heavy and fairly large.
As to trade material: Single board computers, ham gear,
non computer test gear are of interest.
Allison
I saw this, and figured it was probably useful to someone here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1257123318
You are bidding on 2 trays of paper tape softare for a Digital PDP-8E.
Included in the 2 trays are: Self Starting Binary Loader, Binary Punch
Teletype, Absolute Loader, Binary Loader, Symbolic Editor, PAL III, ODT (low
and hi), DDT, Octal Dump, Basic-8, FOCAL, Four User Overlay for FOCAL,
Unitlites Overlay for FOCAL, FOCAL 8 and init, DKSE Clocks Diag, DECtape
Formatter, DECtape Copy, DECTape Diagnostic, TD8E DECtape Subroutine, Randon
Tests, Basic JMP tests, Instruction Test 1, TTY and KL8 tests, Adder tests,
DECtape diagnostic, Memory tests, Extended arith tests, 4K Mem test, Ext mem
test and more. High bidder pays shipping by preferred method. Payment by
International Money Order only.
At 08:13 AM 7/21/01 -0700, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, John Foust wrote:
>> A number of scenarios went through my mind... hiding the disks,
>> claiming they were manuals (although I suspect they can't sell
>> the manuals, either) etc., but I just chalked it up to
>
>NOT "MANUALS"!!!
>"BOOKS"!
>In many such situations, "Manuals" can not be sold. But "Books" can.
Or maybe I could have waved my hand and said "These aren't
the droids you're looking for."
These folk may be working in the cloaca of the massive State
bureaucracy, but they're not stupid. This stuff looked like
software - hard case, binder in case, "IBM" on the side, etc.
- John
On July 22, Matt London wrote:
> > - -
> > o- -
> > - -
> > A B
> >
> > Did DEC have a reason for doing this, other than to be able to extort
> > money from people who need replacement power cords, or to sell them
> > new systems when they make replacement power corde obsolete?
>
> It's a standard power connector, it's just rated at 15A and not 10A IIRC,
> they're most commonly used here for kettles, hence the name "kettle plug"
They're are three power connectors in the "standard" family as defined
by IEC...a low-, medium-, and high-current version. The low-current
version is the one we're all used to, 10A. The one on some MicroVAX
chassis is the 15A version. The third is a larger one (20A, I think
but I'm not sure) that has three flat pins in a triangular arrangement
but in two parallel planes, with a plain rectangular body. Tey're
found on some larger Cisco routers (7513 for one) and on SGI
Challenge-L systems for example.
-Dave McGuire
On July 22, R. D. Davis wrote:
> Anyway, it's now counting down to 3, so, something's working! :-)
> ...will know more when I can get a terminal attached. Do all
> VAX-4000/200 machines make a loud fan noise when first powered on, and
> then get much quieter? Are variable-speed fans being used, and is
> that noise a test of high-speed operation?
They are variable-speed fans. I'm not sure why they do that on
powerup in these machines, but I have seen situations in which
variable-speed fans were in use and, due to the control circuitry,
they didn't have enough power applied to them when the system was
powered up to overcome static friction and get the rotor going. I'm
guessing that DEC knew about this and designed the control circuitry
to give them a little "kick" at powerup to make sure they're all
running, then spin them down to the speed required by the temperature
of the machine.
-Dave McGuire
