test-drb June 2001

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by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I mean, the Atlas II *does* have good heat tolerance because it's smaller! :-) Brain fart again. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions. -- Henry N. Camp -------------

23 years, 6 months

booting from RQDX3

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 1, 13:02, John Allain wrote: > >Yup, this is why third party disk controllers always include a > > 'boot rom' option. > > The sound I was looking for: ROM on card itself. > Now: How common? For third-party controllers, extremely common. For DEC controllers, rare; in fact I can't think of a single one that does. > Is this saying that DEC controllers will force moving the ROM > out to the bus term card as a seperate FRU? And is it really > always controller card resident for the 3rd partiers? Not necessarily or even usually on a bus terminator card. On the 11/24, 11/23+ and later Qbus processors (11/73+, 11/83, //53, 11/93), the ROMs are on the processor card. For many Unibus machines, and the Qbus processors that didn't weren't integrated with SLU, LTC, etc, it was often on a separate ROM card or a multifunction (SLU/LTC/RAM/ROM: MXV11-A or MXV11-B) card. The BDV11 used in 11/03 ansd 11/23 systems was unusual in being a combined terminator/clock/bootstrap card (like a TEV11 or REV11 with extras). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 6 months

booting from RQDX3

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 1, 14:45, Jonathan Engdahl wrote: > Putting a ROM on the disk controller at 173000 is the usual way > of doing it, but here's a slick alternative that is used on the > DSD 4140 floppy controller: > > There is no ROM onboard other than the microcode for the AMD > 2901 (one 4-bit slice!), but there is a single register mapped > onto the Qbus at 173000. If the PDP-11 jumps there, the > controller gives back a jump-to-self opcode. I've seen (indeed, own) another card that does that. I think it might be one of my Dilog cards, but it could be the GR RXV21. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 6 months

Call for Resources for CDC 6000/Cyber 70 Series Emulator

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 07:57 AM 6/1/01 -0400, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: >> > Hmmm.. Don't remember that, but I do remember Empire, >> > and some other Star Trek game... as well as the coolest >> > LISP and Pascal interpreter environments I ever used. > >It *did* auto-format the code... but as these were the earliest >examples of what I think was incremental compiler technology, >you'd be typing the source text, and when you committed a syntax >error, the offending element was highlighted by a dashed-lined >circle, and further entry stopped until you corrected your >mistake. This sounds like the Cornell Program Synthesizer developed by long-time Cornell professor Tim Teitelbaum. It was used to teach Pascal to tens of thousands of students at several large universities in the early 80s, on Teraks and perhaps other computers. I think he gets the credit for developing the first practical language-sensitive editor, the progenitor of most IDEs out there today. - John

23 years, 6 months

booting from RQDX3

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

How does a PDP-11 boot from an RQDX3 controller? I have several 11/23's based on the KDF11-AA CPU, which has no on-board boot ROM. The Andromeda UDC11 disk controller that most of these use contains the boot ROM. These machines are in a 4-slot dual-wide card cage which is full. There is the CPU, a memory card, the disk controller, and a serial card. A couple of these machines are missing the disk controller. RQDX3's seem to be readily available, and there is adequate documentation of the card on the web (jumpers, cable pinouts, etc). Will the KDF11-AA be able to boot from an RQDX3? If not, can anyone suggest an good alternative? -- Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology Euclid, OH 44117 USA Euclid Labs http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl

23 years, 6 months

dumping dec docs

by oliv555＠arrl.net

Just saved these PDP11 related docs from being dumped. 1st come, 1st served, you pay postage. Priority to individual requests, ie: anyone wanting "all of them" can have all that remain unclaimed after 24 hrs (Sat morning). Not wanting to offend anyone, just going from prior experience and my wish to fill as many individual "want" lists as possible. Please direct your requests off-list to oliv555(a)arrl.net. Thanks. - BM873-YA Restart loader Engineering Drawings (no cover sheet) - DLV11-J (M-8043) SLU Users Guide - FP11-B floating-point processor engineering drawings - KB11-A (11/45) CPU Maint. Manual - LPV11-V (M8027) Field Maint. Print Set - LP11 line printer manual - LP11/LS11/LA11 line printer manual - (5) MF11-u/up (core) Memory Engineering Drawings one set has the original cover, other 4 are missing cover - MS11-C bipolar memory (1k) engineering drawings - MS11-E Engineering drawings (M-7847) (missing cover) - PC04/PC05 paper-tape reader/punch maint manual - PDP 11/45 MS11 Semiconductor Memory Systems Maint. Manual - RK05-J Engineering drawings (no cover) - CR11 kit: CR11/CM11 card reader system manual CR11 card reader engineering drawings (missing cover) - LP05 kit: Dataproducts 2230 (LP05) Tech manual Dataproducts 2230 Logic Diagrams - RLxx kit: RL01/02 User Guide RL01/02 Technical Manual (prelim.) (in a 3-ring binder) - RT11 kit: Intro to RT11 (v03) RT11 System Generation Manual (v03b) RT11 System Release Notes (v03b) (in a 3-ring binder) I expect most will fall into the basic $3.50 USPS priority rate, a few may be a bit more. Enjoy :>) ..... nick o

23 years, 6 months

SCSI or Voodoo?

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

That's okay, only 50 meg is going to be Mac OS... everything else will be A/UX partitions for NetBSD! ;) thanks, -carl Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman@theestopinal To: "'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'" group.com> <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent by: cc: owner-classiccmp@classicc Subject: RE: SCSI or Voodoo? mp.org 06/01/01 12:35 PM Please respond to classiccmp > Assuming that the listing is correct and that it is a > 50pin narrow SCSI drive, it should work fine on the Quadra. However... I *think* you'll need OS 8.1 or later to format a drive that large as a single volume. Formatted as two 2GB partitioned, you should have no trouble using older Mac OS's. Regards, -dq

23 years, 6 months

SCSI or Voodoo?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Well, since the Mac Quadra 700 is of 91 vintage, it looks > like I can ask questions about it... > >I found this on teamexcess.com - > > ST15150N Seagate 3.5" 4.3GB 1.6" Half Height SCSI H-ST-15150N > > Narrow 50-pin > >Assuming the jumpers are set correctly, should this work > internally in a Quadra 700? > > Assuming that the listing is correct and that it is a > 50pin narrow SCSI drive, it should work fine on the Quadra. However... I *think* you'll need OS 8.1 or later to format a drive that large as a single volume. Formatted as two 2GB partitioned, you should have no trouble using older Mac OS's. Regards, -dq

23 years, 6 months

old date plz

by feryl＠bigpond.com.au

Dear sir I,m write to you about a lap top computer,Taht i,ve found on a job site they where beening disgared so i kept one. But the poeblm with it is I get a (ple wait) come up then it go to (- ) then it run a driver then stop. I think the programs have been deleaded , i was wondering if i could get a restart programs for it could you help me the model is a Amstrad PPC640S portable personal computer . If you can help me i would be very happle. My email adress is austn29j(a)icqmail.com Anything to help would be good. from Rodney Thank you

23 years, 6 months

Offered: classic manuals

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Quoting "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red(a)bears.org>: > > - TRS-80 Level II BASIC Reference Manual. 2nd ed. 1979. ca. > > Wow, can I buy that one from you? That book introduced me as a kid > to programming, and (with the help of Tron and Wargames) made me > who I am! If he doesn't let go of it, get back to me, I think that's the trash-80 book I pulled off a garbage pile a few years back. It won't be in pristine condition, of course. Just lemme know... Regards, -doug quebbeman

23 years, 6 months

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