test-drb June 2001

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Problem Posts????? was Re: Altair 8800 front panel lamps

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Thankyou! The problem with that is not only did it change fonts it also went for the Largest font! There is nothing naster than reading in my preferred 9pt sans serif and ending up with a 22 (yes huge!) serif font. Can you say YELLING. ;) Allison -----Original Message----- From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Problem Posts????? was Re: Altair 8800 front panel lamps > >Okay, and I would ONLY change it for you Allison :), is this any better? I >just set it >to ISO-8859-1 (Western.) > >Dave McGuire wrote: >> >> On June 2, Chuck McManis wrote: >> > I'm guessing it is these two. I don't know what mail client Allison uses >> > but perhaps when it sees the request for the 'x-user-defined' character set >> > it freaks. Most MIME clients put ISO_LATIN1 there and they are not bothersome. >> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> > >> > This reminds me yet again of a what a _wonderful_ hack to Majordomo, >> > Listserve, or what ever that would take the message submission and >> > _reformat it_ into plain text regardless of how it was sent. Then send it >> > to the list that way (and strip off attachments etc) That is the kind of >> > list I want to subscribe to because even when a newbie screws up (and >> > Marvin isn't one, he just has some interesting headers) no one suffers. >> >> I would love something like this. Anyone know of a majordomo hack >> (or another package) that does this? >> >> -Dave McGuire

23 years, 1 month

Anyone ever seen a TRAN M3000?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >In a few weeks, I'll put a diagram of the Indiana > >University Computing Network cira 1974 up on my web > >site so you can see the role it played. You'll need > >a WHIP! viewer (from Autodesk's web site) to view it. > > If the diagram is of that vintage and not going to be > changed, why post it in Autocad format where it needs a special > plug-in to view it? I haven't been able to create a raster image of it that preserves all the visible details without it being smaller than 2MB. I can't dedicate that much of my precious homepage storage space to a single item. The DWF file (and likewise a DXF) are a few orders of magnitude smaller. Here's an attempt at makeing it fit in a web browser: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/iunet74s.jpg See what I mean? It's a large diagram with lots of detail. Regards, -dq

23 years, 1 month

Problems with posts? (was: Altair 8800 front panel lamps

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > With full headers enabled in PINE, I get the following message preceding > Marvin's post: > [ The following text is in the "x-user-defined" character set. ] > [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. ] > [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Marvin is using Netscape for Windows. He could probably help Allison out by looking at Netscape Messenger's View pull-down menu, somewhere on there should be something about "Character Set" and I believe he can use that to (a) tell it that he wants to use Western (ISO-8859-1) and (b) make that his default character set. Allison is using Microsoft Outlook Express. I don't know what she can do about this at her end, but I would probably be inspired to do something with one or more of a hammer, pliers, a soldering iron, and FreeBSD CDs. > Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com You think you're grumpy? I remember thinking that open standards like those upon which the Internet was built would be a good thing and enable improved communication via different e-mail systems. Instead, here in the future we have dueling implementations of point-and-click cubemail, where one can set things in a completely standard way that render plain text unreadable to the other-cubemail reader on the other end. And the cubemail users then complain about it, not to their software vendors but out where I have to wade through it. -Frank McConnell

23 years, 1 month

you vs. museums

by allain＠panix.com

I'm not really defending museums here, having lost the local history center to the west coast, but has anyone at one of these museums ever attempted to defend their postion by saying "Authentic peroid components only"? That would rule out new purchases. John A. still going to buy a Plane ticket

23 years, 1 month

booting from RQDX3

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> >> How does a PDP-11 boot from an RQDX3 controller? >> These machines are in a 4-slot dual-wide card cage which is full. >I am afraid that there is only one solution in this configuration: >Typing in the bootstrap via ODT at startup. I do this with my 11/73, >because I don't have a ROM card. But a ROM card is no solution for you, >as you don't have a free slot. I connected the console line of the PDP >to a serial port of a PeeCee, so I can use a minicom script to type in the >bootstrap. Or like I have in one of my BA-11VA boxen. System A with HD 11/23 (KDF11-A) 256k ram MXV11 with boot roms. RQDX3 + disk System B with Tu58 11/23 256k ram DLV11j MR11C rom card with tu58 boot. Allison

23 years, 1 month

S-100 Bus Voltages

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Edwin P. Groot <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> > After pulling all but one of the cards out I powered up the system. >Fans run fine, but the motherboard voltage supplies are rather high. For >+8V I measure 10.7V; for +16V I get -19.3V; and for -16V I get -19.3V. Is >this some careless engineering, bad components, or is the board really NOT >supposed to receive the nominal voltage? Obviously you have no expereince with S100. The Voltages supplied to the bus are UNREGUALTED with a minima of +8, +15 and -15. Each card carries it's own local regulation to resolve the 5/12/-12/-5 as needed. > Many of the S-100 boards are discoloured brown-green on the solder >side opposite these large transistor-like things with heat sinks. Is that >something to worry about? Typical and those large transistor like things are voltage regulators. >Does that look safe enough to put the boards back and see how this system >runs? The measurments you made are mostly meaningless. Is it safe? Likely is but that done not mean it will run. I'd have to assume the boards in there are a complete set and configured (memory and IO addresses correctly set) for anything good to happen. S100 was NOT plug and play. > A fair amount of current runs through these slots. I nearly welded my >probe to the slot when I accidently shorted two pins! Obviously contacted +8 to the -16. And yes those supplies are typically good for 25A on the +8 and 4-8A on the +15. Allison

23 years, 1 month

Anyone ever seen a TRAN M3000?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 2, 11:19, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > >In a few weeks, I'll put a diagram of the Indiana > > >University Computing Network cira 1974 up on my web > > >site so you can see the role it played. You'll need > > >a WHIP! viewer (from Autodesk's web site) to view it. > > > > If the diagram is of that vintage and not going to be > > changed, why post it in Autocad format where it needs a special > > plug-in to view it? > > I haven't been able to create a raster image of it > that preserves all the visible details without it > being smaller than 2MB. I can't dedicate that much > of my precious homepage storage space to a single > item. The DWF file (and likewise a DXF) are a few > orders of magnitude smaller. Doug, I have a piece of software that *might* be able to read the DXF file and output PostScript. It depends on what's in the DXF file (DXF is a very loosely defined and badly documented format so sometimes I find DXF that doesn't translate). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 1 month

Compaq 286 SLT Power PInout

by fantom4＠fantom5.freeserve.co.uk

Hi Does anyone have any idea of the volts needed for the six pins of the SLT's power point on the laptop As I would like to get this laptop up and running, It works but i need better way of powering it. Thanks email fantom4(a)fantom5.freeserve.co.uk

23 years, 1 month

Interesting find

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

In packing up my stuff to move it from the office building to a temporary holding facility in my garage, I discovered I had the other half of the MDB Unibus to QBus bus "interpreter" which the docs claim will allow me to either use Unibus peripherals on a Q-bus machine or vice versa. Way cool. This means I can set up my 11/34a to use the RQ11D talking to a ESDI drive in a BA23 box as its hard drive (plus an RL01) but this gives me much more capacity. I hope it works! --Chuck

23 years, 1 month

3.5" MFM hard disk

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

> > >On Tue, 29 May 2001 09:56:17 -0400 "Jeff Hellige" ><jhellige(a)earthlink.net> writes: >> The board is from Sun Remarketing and is labled as being >Ah, I see. It's some whacko custom thingie. Didn't the Lisa originally >use some kind of ProFile-ish thing (custom interface, custom drive >electronix, etc.). The Lisa's external Profile hard disks (5 and 10MB) and internal 'Widget' hard disks both ran off of a parallel interface. I've not taken my Profile apart enough to determine exactly what's inside of it but the Lisa 2/10 internal drive certainly appears to have been a custom setup. There are like 3 circuit boards mounted above the drive assembly itself. I really should put the effort into getting the Profile working but thought I'd try to figure out this other setup first. >Hm, very interesting! I wonder what model they used? Like I said >before, >most of the early SCSI boards from Adaptec (and most of the other mfr's >as well at that time) were only partial SCSI implementations. I'll take the cover off of the SH-204 and report the board ID once I get home. >Ah, well, mebbe I stuck my foot in my mouth-- the ST did have a SCSI >interface, didn't it? Or was it yet another whacko custom thingie . . If I remember correctly, the ST's interface was close to SCSI, close enough that ICD created some relatively small interface adapters for it. Jeff

23 years, 1 month

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