test-drb June 2001

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by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I'm looking for the following books: "DOS Internals" by Geoff Chappell "DOS and Windows Protected Mode Programming" by Al WIlliams "Advanced MSDOS Programming" by Ray Duncan If anyone has these, please let me know off-list so that we can work a deal. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

23 years, 6 months

Sol-20 and Helios pleas

by r.stek＠snet.net

Jim - Ask and ye shall receive, knock and the Helios manual and disks shall be made available... I have the manual and lots of PT-DOS disks. I have never had the opportunity to try them on my Helios. In fact a recent major accomplishment has been getting the Helios out of storage for possible display at VCF East. I am afraid all that my schedule will allow is seeing if it works when connected to my Sol (and I may not have time to do that for a few more weeks). But you are certainly welcome to borrow the manual and disks - the manual is about more than twice the size of the Sol manual. I could have a copy shop do it here, but it would probably run into BIG BUCKS, and I don't have the time to do it at work. But if you want to borrow them, they are yours for the asking. With all your work on Solace, I don't know anyone who would appreciate (or deserve) them more. And, Doug, it was me who contacted Stan a year after he dumped his Sols (and now he is S-O-L). About two years ago I did send out a mailing to about 150 names and addresses I culled from the Proteus News and tried to find via web-based phone directories. I eventually made contact via email with 3 or 4 who still had their machines .... And promptly lost their addresses after a major system crash and prior to a backup (been there, done that). Your Sol-brother, Bob Saver of Lost Sols

23 years, 6 months

Cyber205 was RE: Ebay horror ...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >> >Do you *really* know people who keep mainframes rusting > >> >in the yard? CDC Cybers, by any chance? > >On June 11, Tom Uban wrote: > >> Not too long ago (and perhaps still) the CDC Cyber 205 was complete and > >> sitting in one of the Purdue University salvage buildings. This is a *BIG* > >> machine and would require some serious space, power, etc. > >> > >> The machine has a panel on it which there are the signatures of many > >> people. I think they are the signatures of the installers, maintainers, > >> etc. > At 04:23 PM 6/11/01 -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > Uhhhh...ahhh....a Cyber205? 8-) That's a VERY historically important > >machine in my opinion. > > > > I'd been deleting these messages as yet-another-ebay-related-flame > >but this message caught my attention. If there's a complete Cyber 205 > >in existence anywhere, I'd sure like to know about it. What is the > >status of this machine? Is it available? Anybody know? >On June 11, Tom Uban wrote: > Call Purdue salvage and ask. When I saw it, it wasn't in the area that > would normally be seen, but it may be available. Call (765) 494-4600 > and ask for the number for Purdue salvage... Ok, I'm Southern Indiana, I'll see if I can't get some initial information about this machine. I could fit a Cyber 172 in garage, but nothing this big, so I want to help get this into the hands of a proper preservation organization. If anyone has any advice, I'm all ears... -dq

23 years, 6 months

EPROM replacement and other helpful hints, was Re: IMSAI EPROMS

by jweder＠telusplanet.net

Thanks Mike... Not a bad idea, using switches, but Godbout thought about that 23 years ago! ;o) This EconoROM board has 4 banks of chips already, switch selectable. You can have any one or a combination enabled at once, and set the addresses individually. So I could easily use four 2732's or whatever, one for each bank. Though adding further switches would allow even larger chips to be fully used. Joel A. Weder jweder(a)telusplanet.net 403-556-4020

23 years, 6 months

OT - Scheduling/Macro Software

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 03:03 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I would like to be able to schedule a web browser to go to a site, capture >the page, >and save it to a file automatically once an hour. Off hand, I don't of >anything that will do this; any ideas? Thanks. unix: cron + wget

23 years, 6 months

Call for Resources for CDC 6000/Cyber 70 Series Emulator

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 05:42 PM 6/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >contains one file, and the density is 556? old 7-track, 200, 556, 800. those were gentler times.

23 years, 6 months

Parting out systems

by mbbrutman＠yahoo.com

I've bought pieces of systems instead of entire systems too, and I was happy to find the one or two oddball pieces that I did find. (The most memorable one was a 64KB L2 cache module for an older Compaq desktop.) However, the thing that bugs me about this particular seller and this set of auctions is that I got the impression that this was a perfectly working machine, and that it was just cut up for parts because even if only two parts are sold, that's worth more than entire systems typically go for. What do you think happens to the parts that don't sell? Maybe they'll wind up on Ebay again, or more likely, they'll get junked. The seller made their money on the first overpriced part they sold, so there is no incentive to take care of the rest of the parts that don't sell. Think about entropy for a minute .. once the discrete pieces are split, it's harder to re-aquire them and reassemble the machine. So anyway, as a collector I'm a little miffed by it. The seller's response wasn't rude - or at least is was a rude as my unsolicited advice. ;-) As a capitalist, it's the best route. I tend to side with the collectors more, so I'm a little sad to see a machine cut up for parts like this. The motherboard really should have been kept with the keyboard I/R receiver - they're not really discrete parts. That just shows me the person doesn't know about the machine, nor cares. And pity the buyer that doesn't know the going price for a standard PCjr is about $10. This guy is selling indivual pieces for $6.99 or so. I'll crawl back to my hole now. ;-) Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

23 years, 6 months

Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

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23 years, 6 months

Call for Resources for CDC 6000/Cyber 70 Series Emulator

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The cool games mainly came out of Minnesota, especially from the state > high school cyber mainframe (MECC, Minnesota Educational Computer Consortium). > Empire, Sceptre of Goth, many combat games, etc, etc. On the University > cybers, we had Karnath, and other similar multi-user mazes of monsters. > And of course if you could wrangle access to the real CDC systems downtown > at the corporate headquarters, you could play Avatar. My first exposure to MECC was post-college; MECC had converted a huge base of BASIC programs to run on one of those Wang suitcase-portable BASIC systems; I had to convert the programs to run under Primos' BASIC/VM. > The university wrote some really nice compilers. MNF (Minnesota Fortran) > and a really nice Pascal compiler, both with Post-Mortem Dump facilties > that made debugging code very easy. When the program aborted, it would > print a table explaining what function/subroutine name it aborted on, > what line number, and a printout of variable names and values. If i recall, > it would also print the source code line as well. The Pascal came with a > very extensive set of library routines, I even convinced em to add some > functions to allow me to properly manipulate direct-access files for > a communication system I wrote for a game i never completed, though it > was later added to someone elses game. Yeah, MNF was pretty cool, I wish I still had my manual! However, I didn't know they spun a Pascal compiler; strange, I was a PUG Charter member... Regards, -doug q

23 years, 6 months

Data Rescue Needed - DG 30 cartridge tapes

by raukland＠mfmr.gov.na

Dear All Hello, I am based in Namibia and work for the Southern African Development Community (SADC) through UK based development aid to assist in data Management. I seek your advice in rescuing some data which is important for World Climate studies and Namibia's economy. I will try to keep this concise- the details are all through 2nd/3rd hand contact and sketchy: In 1990 Namibia gained independance from South Africa. A group of inexperienced Namibians inherited 8 cartridge tapes, allegedly for a DG30 which have subsequently been lost (many have tried to find them, they are gone). A copy of the tapes exists in South Africa. There are 8 tapes and no machines to run them on either in SA or here. Attempts have been made to read them by fisheries scientists in France which failed (I do not know the details). As far as I can ascertain a DG30 is a Data General Desktop model DG 014-000767-01 (???) I know nothing about these machines and would appreciate some links. The tapes were written in 1988. They contain data in a 'datasensitive file' (whatever that means) with 80 characters per record and fixed record length files. Why are they impt? They contain data from fisheries activities in the environmentally chaotic Benguela current region for between 1950-1987 for impt pelagic fish species (sardine). Getting this data into a more usable format will enable; 1. A better understanding of fish-environmental interactions in the face of global climate change and human impacts. 2. Provide an increased time series for fisheries modelling, thereby assisting in developing Namibias economy (of which Fisheries is the 2nd most impt). The sardine stock is currently at an all time low and employment has suffered. 3. could potentially improve protein supply to central africa. If anyone knows how this v.impt data could be rescued I would be grateful. Please contact me below. Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Aukland BENEFIT Office, c/o NatMIRC, P.O. Box 912, Swakopmund, Namibia Tel: +264 (0)64 4101163 (NOTE NEW NUMBER) Fax: +264 (0)64 405913 WWW: http://www.benefit.org.na Email: raukland(a)mfmr.gov.na

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