test-drb April 2001

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Wait! There's more including MS-DOS 1.25!!!! was Sanyo MBC-550 (Yuck!) software available

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I'm still digging. I found more 550 stuff. I think this is everything that came with the 550. Here's a chance for you 550 owner's to get the whole set at one shot! Original DS-DOS box and invoice. Original Sanyo Easywriter ver 1.3 disk Original Sanyo disk box with 550 dos ver 2.11 and BASIC 1.25, two original Sanyo disk for InfoStar (set B disk 2 and 3 of 4; disks 1 and 4 are below), original Sanyo disk for DOS 1.25 and BASIC ver 1.1 Original Sanyo disk box with all three original disk of set A, WordStar and CalcStar and a backup copy of DS-DOS. Two card board dummy disks used to protect the floppy drives duing shipment. Joe > >A few weeks ago we were talking about the Sanyo 550 series and someone mentioned one of the alternates operating systems that supported 80 track drives in the 550. I said that was DS-DOS by Michtron. > > Today I found an old Sanyo disk package with four disks for the 550. One of them is DS DOS 2.11, one is InfoStar, one is MailMerge/SpellStar and the other is a disk of misc utilities. The first three are original disks. In additon, the InfoStar, MailMerge/SpellStar are Sanyo labeled disks that came with the 550. If anyone wants them, trade me something I can use and they're all your's. > > Joe

12 years, 4 months

Info on the Dynalogic Hyperion

by lbutzel＠home.com

Looking for info on the Dynalogic Hyperion, a "portable" DOS machine manufactures around 1983. At least the one I have is 1983. it was designed and initially built in Ottawa, Canada. Hyperion was acquired in about 1983 by Bytec, who was later bought by I think a Quebec company called Comterm. Anyway, mine has stopped working: The machine still boots but no image is displayed on its 7" diag screen. Hence I am looking for service info and/or persons who have worked on the machine. Any leads would be most appreciated. Leo Butzel Seattle, WA lbutzel(a)home.com

22 years, 9 months

Heath/Zenith stuff

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

------Original Message------ From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> --- Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> wrote: > Your thinking of the Heath H11 which was in fact an LSI-11/02. But it had It shipped as an LSI-11/03 CPU and heath made memory and IO. My H-11 came with a KDF-11 CPU (11/23), but I don't know if it was shipped that way or if my boss (who bought it new) upgraded it himself. Yep, never shipped with 11/23 (KDF-11A). It was discontinued by then if anything. I have a couple of the Heath serial cards (one unsoldered!), the H-27 disk controller, the 8" floppies and a pile of misc DEC cards (memory, BDV-11 boot card, etc). The heath seriial card was a fairly flexible card copared to the usual DEC DL-11. to debug the H-27 (he never used it). Except for the monsterous holes he blew in the side to mount additional fans, and the holes in the front he added for external console baud rate switches, it resembles its original form once again. The fans and switches were a common mod and handy too. Allison __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

23 years, 5 months

HP Composite Video Interface Card

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Wayne M. Smith" <wmsmith(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > I am using an HP composite video card (98204A) in a > 9000/200 series and am getting a very small multiple > image on the screen. Is there something special about > HP composite video or is this just a bad card? I've > tried the card in both a 9000/200 and 9000/220 with the > same result. Any ideas? Just a wild guess, but if you have an HP 35731A monochrome monitor, try it with that. That wants composite video but with a horizontal frequency of 30KHz instead of the more usual 15KHz. HP used that on several different systems. There may also be a jumper on the video card to select the horizontal frequency, but the only thing I ever saw this on was the HP Multimode Display Adapter for the Vectra (sort of a combination of the IBM MDA and CGA that was good for confusing "smart" software). -Frank McConnell

23 years, 6 months

Nabu Computers Available...

by hardwire＠ptd.net

This might be of interest to somebody here (hopefully)... Surplus Traders (www.73.com) currently has 35 Nabu computers for $29.00 a pop, plus shipping. Normally they do bulk sales, but they will sell the Nabu individually. (Search for item CR356.) I picked one up a while ago, and mine was still 'new', in the box, with a factory seal. Then again, since this surplus, it might be best to verify that the units are 'new' if that's important to you. Unfortunately, I haven't really toyed with the Nabu hardware too much (yet), and if anyone else has, I'd love to hear about it. Either way, these machines are certainly an interesting part of computing history. Here's a small blurb about the Nabu: http://ieee.ca/millennium/telidon/telidon_nabu.html

23 years, 9 months

recent additions

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I recently filled the car with these: Apollo DOMAIN Series 3500 Domain series 3000 model 3010 HP/Apollo series 400 (2) Sun 3/60 + tape drive and tapes Sun 3/50 Apple lisa 2 (2) apple II Ci Mac SE/30 with radius monitor Mac color classic Quadra 610 Quadra 800 Quadra 860 power mac 7200/90 Also available was a volker Craig terminal, and a copy apple's unix I also have "quite a pile of HP 712/715/725s in various condition" for me to pick up when I get some space cleared. IKEA has said that the missing piece to complete the shelving will be delayed another 3 weeks, and my wife says no more machines until the shelves are up!

23 years, 10 months

classiccmp list archive, digest changes, and a free offer

by west＠tseinc.com

Greetings! Several changes people have been asking about... here's the status.... 1) The classiccmp mailing list archives at www.classiccmp.org are now reworked and up to date. We are still using hypermail which takes the mailing list traffic and automagically creates the website, organized by year, month, thread, etc. etc. A background process is *STILL* running to populate the rest of year 1999 (other years, including 2000, are already done) but it should be done in an hour or two perhaps (theres a LOT of mail to process in portions of that year). There is a month or two missing, but those months are actually missing from the raw datafiles. I assume that the list was not functioning during those times (before [and perhaps while] it was being moved to my servers). 2) The hypermail task has been set up as a cron job to keep the mailing list archives at www.classiccmp.org up to date without operator intervention. Because the mailing list is hosted by a server sitting right next to the classiccmp webserver, updates to the archive will be especially fast. 3) Previously, digest subscribers could get multiple digests per day if the size of the digest was large (ie. it could be split into multiple emails if the size went over a threshold). Due to popular request, that is no longer the case. The digest will now send only one email per day to digest subscribers no matter what the size. 4) Several people have asked - I don't have their email addresses here... so once again - publicly, to subscribe or unsubscribe send an email to majordomo(a)classiccmp.org. Any list traffic should go to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org. When subscribing you tell it which list you want to subscribe to, either the normal list or the digest list. Hope this gets everything in order. Once again, I will gladly host any website, ftpsite, mailinglist, etc. that has to do with classic computers at no charge - unlimited traffic, unlimited storage, no fees of any kind. I am currently connected to 5 major backbones via 100mb ethernet (and offer local dialup in over 152 US cities [shameless plug]), so the transfer speeds should be acceptable. The only thing I ask is that if the disk storage requirements are unusually large (say, greater than 10gb) that you buy your own hard drive and ship it to me. I'll mount it in one of our servers and the drive will still belong to you and be dedicated to your use only. If you decide to move, you get the drive back of course. I'll do this for free, I feel it's something I can give back to the folks on the list for all the endless advice I've gotten out of it. Ok, if a few RK05's and 7900A disc drives show up anonymously, I won't complain either <grin, just kidding>. It would be nice if we could get a lot of subsites under the www.classiccmp.org site, sort of like a portal. At the very least we need some links to classiccmp sites there. Anyone care to throw together a main page for this (I'm not an html person, and our webdevelopment staff is working overtime already)? Then all the subsites that folks host on my server could be at www.classiccmp.org/mydecstuff and www.classiccmp.org/hprules for example. Of course, if you want your own domain name that's fine too. Regards! Jay West

23 years, 10 months

Strange device, stuff available FS or Trade

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> wrote: > Well the VAX fairy visited me and dropped off a "pile of junk". Inside the > junk were a couple of Unibus expansion bays and in those were a board from > MDB systems that asserts it connects a Unibus to a Q-bus. Unfortunately > I've only got the Unibus half apparently and there is a matching card that > plugs into the Q-bus. Univerter/Qniverter? Depending on what the docs say, would the Q-bus end be similar to what DEC used to connect BA-11N or BA-23 boxes together? It does kinda matter which way you are going (i.e., Unibus or Q-bus CPU)... mostly because the Unibus is 18-bit and the Q-bus is 18 or 22 bit (or 16 ;-) with completely different ideas about how to map space (which matters at the driver level, not the hardware level). We looked into such products at work, but we decided that the extra effort on the driver did not pay for saving a development box. > Apparently I also got a set of VAX 11/750 cpu cards and memory. Is this > something anyone is interested in? To rescue from oblivion, yes. To put to immediate use, no. I have two 11/750s and wouldn't mind spares, but space/cash is too tight for such an optional set of boards. I haven't even fired one up since I moved it to the Quonset hut. It sits, temporarily unloved, until I can wire a 30A Hubble receptacle for it. > Finally I got some docs on the VAX BI bus but I'm reserving those for Bill > if he wants them. If not, please let me know. I have an 8300. Thanks, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

23 years, 10 months

Apple Recall of powerbooks

by fauradon＠mn.mediaone.net

Not ten year old yet but urgent... Seens like Apple is actively trying to eradicate the powerbooks 5300 and 190. The article at: http://www.pbzone.com/index.shtml#applestore States that apple will be destroying the PB that are sent back. Time to find those babies and protect them from doom. Francois

23 years, 10 months

Thoughts on a datascope

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Any thoughts on how I can back this beastie up? Anyone > done anything with this line of datascope? No experience with this device, but you could try this: Remove the HD and attached it as the second drive in an old bootable PC that already has one MFM drive. You'll need to get the drive parameters for the drive entered into the CMOS; I think I used to use SpeedStor (?) for that. Other utilities exist. Then, assuming this datascope doesn't turn out to be an embedded DOS machine (and thus the drive formatted as FAT12), use DEBUG under DOS to load the boot sectors, then write to a .BIN file and set aside. Load the partition table (assuming it has one) and save it. Do a quick- n-dirty disassembly of the boot code to see where it runs off to (that is what it loads from the drive), and if it's loading less than 64k, you should be able to do this easily in DEBUG. If it's loading more than 64k, you could just write a quick-n-dirty program using your favorite language (unless that's COBOL!) to read the datascope code in and store it in a binary file. However, as I said above, you may find this machine is an embedded DOS machine, and the drive may already be readable, file by file. hth, -doug q

23 years, 10 months

monitors

by lgwalker＠look.ca

I've been fascinated by micro-computer monitors for years. Possibly because my original Atari ST had such a convoluted 13pin interface. As a result I've tended to grab any monitor that didn't have a vanilla or plain 9pin or 15pin connector. Ditto when it comes to video cards. So the NEC series of multi-sync and other monitors with additional switches have been high on my collectables. The Amiga newsgroup is always full of queries regarding which Nec works with it (3C ?}. Similiarly each of the older platform newsgroups have the same questions. While I know Tony Duell and others have posted the video requirements of different systems, it has always been a bit of a grey area for me. For example what do the dip-switch settings on most of the configurable cards indicate ? Some of my monitors include a Radius full-page display, and I have a kit which supposedly allows a Mac+ to use it. A DEC VR201 with the retactible support pole and transporting handle which works on my DEC Rainbow. Tatung configurable, Tandy CM5, Several Hi-resolution configurable monitors Compaq and TVM ,Commodore 1402, Apple Color RGB (for A2 GS),Supermac rebadged Sony GDF1950, and Magnavoxes and NECs. However, I have yet to see a good FAQ regarding these monitors. There seems to be more info on the fixed freq. and sync on green and I have book from MS Press on IBM CGA thru VGA monitors but little on their configuration and platform-specific features. Possibly each mfg. issued a booklet with their monitors and the market wasn't big enough for a book. An area to explore. My system includes a JDH Videomate external box which is a TV to VGA converter and my main TV when not displaying computer-specific info. Again , a defunct company, so no info. ciao larry ciao larry lgwalker(a)look.ca walkers(a)altavista.net bigwalk(a)xoommail.com

23 years, 10 months

SAIC RSC-1x (MOCC) Portable Workstation

by owad＠applefritter.com

I purchased an interesting system at the Timonium Hamfest last weekend. It's a SparcStation IPX, refitted to a military case. I've put some pictures up at <http://www.applefritter.com/temp/saic/>. It consists of the computer itself and an expansion chassis that latches onto the bottom of the case. Right now, I don't have the machine running. The power supply I got with it is a LAMBDA, 24VDC, 10.5 A. I don't have a military connector, so I've been sticking the wires onto the pins. I managed to get the system to power on. It gives a splash screen reading "Tech-Source Inc." followed by a line I didn't think to write down before it started having problems. At the next spring it tells me a bit about itself: SparcStation IPX, Keyboard Present ROM Rev. 2.9, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #2219226 Ethernet address 8:0:20:1a:c:28, Host ID: 5721dcda And informs be that it can't boot off the hard drive (the seller told me its been wiped clean). Just a few minutes ago the power supply apparently gave out. I had the machine powered on and was copying down the above information when it seemingly powered off and the screen started flickering on and off. I'm not at all familiar with Sparcs, and I really don't know much about power supplies either. Does this strike the anybody as a faulty power supply connection, or something else? The expansion chassis needs its own power, so unless the power supply I have is powerful enough to power both (opinions?) I'm going to need a second. I need to get the expansion chassis up and running as it has the CD-ROM drive (along with a second hard drive and a tape drive) in it which I need to install the operating system. Does anybody have any suggestions regarding getting this system running? Know where I can find some decent power supplies that will work? Ideally with the three-prong military connectors? Thanks for the info. Tom Owad

23 years, 10 months

TU-58 rollers and emulation (was Re: VAX 11/725)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> >> > There is out there a TU-58 emulator for PeeCee... There is one that runs under UNIX. Also the rollers for the TU58 I clean off the goo to get down to the basic hub then use .500 od/.375 id Tygon tubing. which is a stretch fit over the hub, add a drop of super glue and trim to width as diameter is not critical and that material seems to hit it very close. I've done this to maybe 8 them I still use. Allison

23 years, 11 months

Equipment needs home: Portland, OR. area

by wolf＠nwinfo.net

hey do you have any ideas about using relays or some thing connected to a parallel or aerial port to control the power to an outlet, you know like a dimmer switch controlling motors ETC if you have any thought or ideas I'd be glad to hear them.

23 years, 11 months

decus lives!

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

At least in the UK anyway. The recent flurry of DECUS complaints on here made me wonder what had happened to my own membership - sure enough it expired last month so they're wanting another 25 english pounds off me. Thing is, is it still worth it to be a member? I haven't been to the seminars etc for *years* and don't have a requirement for hobbyist kits or anything like that...... thoughts? -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) 0/0

23 years, 12 months

just outta curiosity

by Demon02554＠aol.com

just wondering....am i the only kid on this list? Robert Cobbins

24 years

D connector tirade (was: Re: Age-old ethernet equipment)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 30, 19:49, Richard Erlacher wrote: > I'm glad I don't have to explain that. There is, by the way, another more > "current" name for the 3-row, 'E'-shell connector commonly seen with 15 pins in > it in VGA applications. I'm not remembering it, though. HD-15? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years

Teledisk not working

by lgwalker＠look.ca

> > These assholes even claim that: > > > > "TeleDisk was developed to assist the U. S. Treasury Department > > in the processing of computer evidence tied to floppy diskettes." > > > > Does anybody know if this is *true*?! I always thought it was > > developed to distribute software via BBS's (and other electonic > > means). > > I believe it to be 100% false. The story I remember (probably read in > some Sydex documentation) is that Teledisk was written to help support > the CP/M disk reading software (was that called 22disk?). The idea was > that if you had a CP/M disk in a format that wasn't supported by 22disk, > you could use Teledisk to mail an image of the disk to Sydex so they > could attempt to add the format to later versions. > > In any case, teledisk is not that useful for extracting information from > a non-PC disk (which is presumably what the police, etc, would want to > do). I can really see the point of being able to make a copy of a disk > for some machine they don't have. Some program like anadisk, which lets > you read sector-by-sector, make disk images, and so on, would be a lot > more useful to them I would have thought. > > -tony > Someplace among my 5.25 disks I have a zipped early shareware copy of Teledisk that I downloaded from a BBS around 92-93. I remember it had some sort of lame disclaimer to the effect that it was not to be used to circumvent copyright restrictions. I thought at that time it was just a legal cover for their asses and certainly looked like a way around copy-protection. larry Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

24 years

ldb4401 can be replaced by .....?

by General＠cyber.net.pk

dear sir please address the issue regards nasir

24 years

Looking for an IBM Portable Personal Computer

by vance＠ikickass.org

Anyone have one of these they could let go? Peace... Sridhar

24 years, 1 month

MicroVAX 3100 booting question...

by fruviad＠coil.com

Newbie here...apologies if this is a stupid question. Background: I'm a unix-geek who has used VMS in the past, but never done any VMS administration. Naturally, when I got the opportunity to possess my own MicroVAX 3100, I leapt at it! I managed to get a terminal for the VAX and figured out how to boot it, via "BOOT DKA300" at the >>> prompt. This gave me a boot sequence of some sort, terminating in an OpenVMS 6.1 tagline and a "$" prompt. Unfortunately, once I got to this point, I was at a loss about what to do next. None of the VMS commands I enter are recognized as valid commands...they all return the error: %CLI-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling I haven't been able to find anything on the web that tells me what to do next. I've even left the box running since I booted it last night, for fear that turning it off will corrupt a mounted filesystem. Anybody out there know what I'm not doing right, or have a URL that points to a site for a beginner-Admin of a VMS box? Thanks... Peter Kukla

24 years, 1 month

Storageworks SBB Cases

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone have any empty DEC Storageworks SBB cases available? I'm trying to find some 5.25" cases I can stick a CDROM drive and DLT drive in to use with my Storageworks shelves so I can hot-swap the drives between my two systems. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

24 years, 1 month

RS/6000 Questions and items rescued from a skip

by markn＠mr2.net

hi everyone, I've just subbed to this list to try and find out some information about a machine i've rescued from literally being thrown into a skip as scrap. The company i work for as just thrown out several UNIX machines.... of these i managed to rescue: Complete Silicon Graphics Indy system, with monitor and fully working SUN SPARCstation IPC, fully working IBM RS/6000 POWERstation 530, fully working (probably) There where other (older) machines that went, but unfortunately i wasn't able to save them. it's the IBM i'm trying to find information on, like identifying how much memory it has, disk capacity, CPUs etc... i also want to know how to connect a terminal up to it so i can get it running on my network and see what's on it. It was operational the last time it was turned on, i had to pull the network and power out of the back of it when i had it so it hasn't been moved since it was powered off... it used to have a keyboard and a large colour monitor on it, sadly i dont have these. The CD-Rom drive was also removed for some reason. There's a label on the front: 7013 26-0111 and one on the back saying: "This machine upgraded to General Availability level on 04/10/91" If anyone has any details on this can you please contact me! there are some pictures of it at: http://www.daneel.demon.co.uk/images/power01.jpg http://www.daneel.demon.co.uk/images/power02.jpg http://www.daneel.demon.co.uk/images/power03.jpg http://www.daneel.demon.co.uk/images/power04.jpg http://www.daneel.demon.co.uk/images/power05.jpg in case your wondering, i'm in the UK many thanks mark nias ============================== Mark Nias - http://www.mr2.net ==============================

24 years, 1 month

Amiga items on eBay

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Pardon the auction announcement... I'm unloading some truly rare Amiga items, particularly clothing in this batch - how about a CBM bag, an Amiga checkmark sweatshirt, or a t-shirt from the first Amiga "wake" party held in 1987? http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=jfoust@thr… For the classic-minded, there's an 8-port ISA serial card for a PC. - John

24 years, 1 month

Another DEC haul

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

I just got back from out of state with another DEC haul. I filled my Astro van to the roof with more docs software and misc before Mr. Landfill took them. Whew! 42 hours with no sleep. I'm getting too old for this. Anyway, I'm not even sure whats there yet but I did see a few versions of Ultrix and VMS on many different media. It looks like it is mostly VAX stuff and I will post it here when I have it inventoried. A few things I did see while loading... 64Mb for the VAX 8700(box was labled as such) Ultrix ver 1.0 on Magtape Many RX50's with Ultrix Lots of original sales flyers for Vax's Brand new spare boards for the 750 New replacement RK05 heads Lots of DECstations A nice unexpected bonus was finding a PDP8a in the pile and in it was a RL8 controller. to bed.... Brian. -- Brian Roth - System Administrator www.webwirz.com - Old Computer Repository Preoccupation is my main occupation.....

24 years, 1 month

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