Billy, where are you? I have a spare LK401 but live in the Netherlands.
Wim
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> From: Billy D'Augustine <azog(a)azog.org>
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: off topic: lk401
> Date: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:30 PM
>
> has anyone got a spare lk401? The spacebar on mine is acting up, the
return
> spring doesn't work properly, and I'll get random spaces in the middle of
> typing. Very annoying.
>
>
From: Peter Joules <peter(a)joules.org>
>These mail viruses are one good reason for reading mail using pine on my
>Linux box, by telnet from the Windoze machine ;-)
That works but it's still PC. Run Vaxmail on a 3100 or maybe a solid 730
then you can even disect the virus as it cant even run there... ;)
Allison
Well, I've said that I haven't gotten myself into this hobby to make a profit,
but it is time for a small contradiction.
I have found a person in my area that has 7 VAXen he's going to scrap if he
can't move them out. Now, I'm not particularly interested in VAXen, but I am
currently trying to raise money to put together a PDP-11 system or two. I need
to know if these machines' value (in terms of power to acquire the PDP-11 parts
that I want, either by money or direct trade) is greater than the cost of the
trip to get them.
The VAXen:
VAX 6000-310
VAX 6000-410
VAX 6000-420 (2 of them)
VAX 6000-510 (2 of them)
VAX 7000-610 (cpu cards removed)
Cost of trip: $500
The owner claims they were used by NASA, then stored in a climate-controlled
room, then given to him. He says they look brand new.
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From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
>> -Disable VBS scripting, that stops a raft of buggies right there.
>> - disable open after preview for 5sec .
>> - disable auto display of pictures
>> - enable empty deleted folder on close (delete really does then).
>> Thats just a few of the simpler things that really do help.
> - and default to TEXT for e-mail
>
>If those were the DEFAULTS, what percentage of the problems would be
>solved, and how much of the anti-MICROS~1 hostility would be eliminated?
Some. Then again the real garbage like AOL and all those really inane
web pages that usse activeX and comX controls.
Allison
Never mind, the guy called me and said he had already gotten rid of the VAXen.
Grrr!
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Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft advertisement
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
> > Why fault Microsoft for making products that are popular and common?
>Their products' popularity and commonness is largely *not* a result of the
>product's quality.
Well... I happen to be a quality engineer and I strongly disagree with your
assertion that MS does not produce quality software. So in order to get this
discussion on an intellectual tract, I'd be curious as to your definition of
software quality, and the specific attributes that define it?
>(2) Their products are designed for idiots. Computers are tools for smart
>people. Should we let evolution gradually filter out stupid people from
>the species, or should we allow them to be our least common denominator,
>thereby limiting the power of the species as a whole?
So... I'm an idiot because I use MS products?
I also take exception to your assertion that computers are for "smart"
people. Let's see... Not so many years ago, the consensus was that freedom
was only for white people, that voting was only for men, and [fill in the
blank with your favorite excluded activity / group].
There was also a time where you had to be a mechanic in order to drive
because the cars were unrelyable and difficult to maintain. Should we
exclude every one from driving that can't rebuild an engine or tear down a
transmission. Let's see... Like the rest of us, you probably watch TV on
occassion. Is there anyone on this list (Tony excluded) that could build one
>from scratch? Does that mean no-one else should be allowed to watch TV?
Let's see... If you can't cook, you shouldn't be allowed to eat... If you
can't sew, you shouldn't be allowed to wear clothes... If you can't swim,
you shuldn't be allowed to bathe...
>(3) Their software engineers have given far too much design control to
>their marketing droids.
Bull Shit... Without marketing, WINDOWS would have a f***ing command line
interface and only the eliteist "smart" people (like yourself) would be
entitled to use it. Marketing is just as important to software engineering
as developers are.
Steve Robertson
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From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)ou.edu>
> > > Why fault Microsoft for making products that are popular and
> > > common?
> >
>(0) They are too big.
Common fault of many PC based programs these days.
>(1) They are too slow.
See (0). Add that their complexity has made them larger and therefor
harder to optimize (should they even bother).
>(2) They are too buggy.
I find that they are often less buggy than their competitors running on
the same platform.
>(3) They are too ustable.
See (2), add complexity complicates testing for all possible cases.
There is always a pathological case that was untested.
>(4) They don't use open standards.
Agreed, they are to busy trying to make their's unique.
>(5) They claim to use open standards, but instead use 'embraced and
extended'
(read: raped) ones that are 'strategically documented'.
Redundant, see (4).
>(7) They assume you are an idiot.
It industry wide now, I'm not certain it started with them.
>(8) They have inadequate documentation.
See (7).
>(9) WTF is up with their versioning? JEEZ!
Common problem. I suspect they have competing factions, winner
gets all.
> > (2) Their products are designed for idiots.
>
My $0.02... They {Apple and others included} made computers easier to
use without the need for a CS degree. Yes, that means some or even
many things are dumb to the point of sillyness remember the initial goal.
> So... I'm an idiot because I use MS products?
No. It's a commodoity product that has advantages, limiations and flaws
use it with understanding and care.
> > Computers are tools for smart people. Should we let evolution
> > gradually filter out stupid people from the species, or should
> > we allow them to be our least common denominator, thereby
> > limiting the power of the species as a whole?
They can be. They are also appliances, in many ways no different from
the Microwave or car.
> Let's see... Like the rest of us, you probably watch TV on
> occassion. Is there anyone on this list (Tony excluded) that could
> build one from scratch?
Yes, and specious too. Once upon a time (about 50 years ago) you could
spend a lot of money (months pay) and buy a TV or you could buy it as
a kit (pre heithkit!). In a time log ago I built the Altair because
buying
a commercial product was manytimes more costly. I did that because
I could and had a desire. Not everyone could, though they wanted and
needed to tool I built, hence Apple and TRS80.
Same story for the early drivers, pilots and other on the leading edge
or a useful technology.
>presence of marketroids --
They exist get used to it. Sometimes... they may present a problem
that an engineer can really feel challenged to meet. Other times they
try to satisfy a preceived need. Marketing without direction is no
different
than engineering without direction in that both cases expend resources
to no significant gain. In the end they are or should be part of a team.
I have no love for Micros~1. However I do use their product and within
it's (DOS, W3.1, W9x, WinNT, W2k) limits it works ok for business. It's
adaquate. Intelligently applied it does do real work with acceptable
relibility with users that do not care how or why it works when their
job is accounting, selling or managing stock. To many computers are
just another tool.
Allison
>
>The following came to us at work, and I wanted to pass on the info:
>
>STRICOM has received official notification of a new virus in the wild called
>the Naked Wife Virus.
>
>This virus is sent by email message with the subject of the "Naked Wife"
or
>"FW: Naked Wife" with text of "My wife never looked like that! ;) ".
>There is an infected attachment named "nakedwife.exe". When opened, this
>virus resends itself to other recipients in address book. This virus also
>affects all .dll, .exe, .com, and .bitmaps files. Do not open this
email
>or the attachment if received.
>
>Information has not yet been received as to whether Norton or McAfee will
>detect and clean this virus.
>
>Microsoft Outlook email systems are the primary target of this virus and we
>do not believe Lotus Notes is affected, but as a precautionary measure, we
>are asking that if you receive an email at work or at home meeting the above
>criteria, please delete them immediately.
>
On March 7, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> I wish I had a big Vax.
Feel like renting a truck and driving to Maryland? I'm almost in
the mood to send my 8700 on to a better home.
-Dave McGuire
There are a number of different variants but, that sounds a lot like my /36.
Basically, the entire system is one box (box ass tower) with integral HDs,
I/O, tape drive (optional), and 8" floppy drive. I think most of the HDs are
in the 60-90MB range.
All external devices including the console are connected through a twinax
cable. IIRC, mine has several (4) coax connectors on the rear panel. I don't
recall the terminal type but, I think they are common IBM twinax terminals.
I see the terminals on Ebay fairly often. As I recall, they go pretty cheap.
Since the HDs are internal and the systems are not likely to be under
maintenance, it's not too difficult to find a 36 with the OS still
installed. The one I collected came with all the original install disks so
passwords weren't an issue. The lack of an available OS has certainly
dissuaded me from bothering with any 400 stuff.
I messed around with the box when I first got it but, it really didn't seem
all that interesting so, I stuck it in the garage.
I'm sure a number of other collectors s on this list also have a /36?
Steve Robertson
>From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net>
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: IBM System 36
>Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 22:15:17 -0500
>
>Last time I went to the surplus electronic shop that I visit. I saw
>what was labeled as being a System 36. It was basically a really over
>grown full tower, with a few other peripherals. Did I see the whole
>unit, or just a small part? Would this be something I could do
>something with? Does any freeware exist? How about the OS.... is it
>around, and attainable? What kind of processing horsepower does it
>have?
>
>I didn't really look at it, while I was there. I knew they are the
>ancestor to the AS400, and the AS400 is sort of a white elephant for the
>hobbyist.
>
>Chad Fernandez
>Michigan, USA
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