In a message dated 12/22/01 Richard Erlacher writes:
> If you want to insist that you can devise a task, any task at all, mind you,
> that you can code in Z80 code to run at 2x the clock rate of a 6502, in,
say,
> <80 lines of assembler, that's strictly a computing task, just to leave I/O
out
> of it, or any I/O task that you think you can code in legitimate Z80
> instructions, providing a precise spec for the I/O task, then I'd certainly
come
> out and say you can't cook a legitimate one up that a 6502 can't accomplish
in
> less time, in the case of the computing task, and that, since the I/O task
spec
> limits the rate, the 6502 will be able to do it as well. I'd like to see a
task
> that meets those spec's
How about a straight insertion bubble sort ? A completely useless task but it
does take a defined number of data moves and compare operations. The array
to be sorted could be say, 16-bit signed integer, 1k words long and in reverse
order. (That should take a while for a 6502 to sort out).
Chris
Doesn't the DQ614 emulate the RL01/RL02?
Can't you just use the RL device hander?
Dave
SP wrote:
>
> One Dilog DQ614 driver disk for RT-11. I have
> one of these boards inoperative because I can't
> configure it.
>
> Happy Christmas (if applicable)
>
> Greetings
>
> Sergio
--
David C. Jenner
djenner(a)earthlink.net
Here's what I know about the 90x... I haven't worked with
Pyramid gear in about 9 years so I may be dropping a few bits.
The machine loads COS the diagnostic software from an 80 track
96 tpi 5 1/4 disk. This contains the support software to
download the necessary code into the machine to make it boot.
The operating system is OS/x (a BSD 4.2 or 4.3 and SysV rel 2
or 3 hybrid). I'd love to get a machine running that around so
I could figure out how they do the dual universe stuff so I
could do it with FreeBSD.
I used to teach OS/x Operations, Sys Admin, Comm and such for
Pyramid and I also taught maintenance on their MIS series boxes.
I had a 98x (IIRC) in the office which was similar to the 90x.
Bill
--
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Systems Administrator
uReach Technologies
732-335-5432 (Work)
877-661-2126 (Fax)
---- On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Dan Cohoe (dancohoe(a)oxford.net) wrote:
> I recently brought home a Pyramid 90x. The old owner who had
run the
> machine at his work in the 80's bought it from his employer
about 1990,
> but never got it set up at home.
>
> Apparently he decided to dump it a few months ago, but
because of its
> size didn't get the job done. However, he did put all of the
software
> and the documentation on the curb for the garbagemen at that
time.
>
> Mike Kenzie and I got there just before he called the
recyclers for the
> machine itself.
>
> What I need is a boot disk or other software and any
documentation that
> might be out there. According to the old owner, it starts by
loading
> the
> boot program off the 8" floppy before it can find the fixed
disks.
>
> Does anyone have anything for this machine?
>
> thanks, Dan Cohoe
>
>
>
Matt wrote:
> So what is everyone else on the list asking for? Computer related... of
> course.....
I'm getting a nice 100% mechanical analog.
http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog/libra.htm
It's coming by Big Brown sled as we speak.
Reagards,
--Doug
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Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog
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From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>without modification, in most cases, on a Z80,.by the time the 6502
became
>popular. Now, I've always believed the 6502 at 1 MHz to compare
favorably with
>the 4 MHz Z80, but I used the Z80 running CP/M 2.2 to do useful work,
since it
>was a lot more trouble squeezing useful work out of a 6502 back in
'78-'79.
If anything I'd say CP/M was a factor more than any virtue of Z80. I say
that as
most "z80" code underused the Z80 as a fancy 8080. One may wonder if a
cp/m like (or better!) OS existed for 6502 such that it was portable or
easily
ported if things may have developed differently.
Allison
Last fall I suddenly, in the space of two week, received
five requests for a D*A*T*A* I*/*O manual I mentioned on
ClassicCmp back in 1999. Thank to help from Arlen Michaels,
I got all of those requests filled.
Now, I don't mind copying manuals, but after two years
and one move the manual and the files where a pain to dig
out of "the pile", and these were not list members.
So, the ClassicCmp list archive is the reason for the "*"s.
Now, one of the people that requested a manual sent me
a couple of PDFs that I wondered if anyone here would
like to host? I want to get them out there so everyone
can use them, but I didn't want to keep getting requests
years from now via the archives.
1. D*A*T*A* I*/*O* 2*9*a* U*n*i*v*e*r*s*a*l*
P*r*o*g*r*a*m*m*e*r* 9*9*9*-*0*0*2*9*
dated May 1982 102 pages
(includes schematics)
size - 10 MB
2. D*A*T*A* I*/*O* U*N*I*P*A*K* 2*
dated 1984 76 pages
(includes family, pin*out codes
and schematics)
size - 8 MB
So, if ONE person would like to host these
files, (and not mention my name) I can put them
up on the web one at a time to be grabbed.
Regards,
--Doug
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Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog
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Three more books available:
RS TRS-80 Color Computer Technical Reference Manual 26-3193, 69 pages
RS TRS-80 MC-10 Micro Color Computer Service Manual 26-3011, 47 pages
(Photocopy purchased from RS)
MOS Technology MCS6500 Microcomputer Family Programming Manual, Jan '76,
8 1/2x11, approx. 200 pages. Will throw in Synertek 6500 & 6500B data
sheets full of timing and cycle time info so you can join the
fascinating (!) discussion presently raging among Dick, Allison & Ben.
$4.95 ea plus postage, or BO, if anyone's interested.
Meanwhile, the very best wishes of the season to everyone on the list;
nice to have met all of you, virtually speaking, and especially the
two I've had the pleasure of meeting in person.
To those of you still patiently waiting to hear from me regarding
items of interest, I haven't forgotten. Bear with me, and after the
Xmas rush at the post office, I'll get back to you.
And may the New Year be a more peaceful and less traumatic one than
this one's been (although it doesn't look good...)
Happy & fruitful collecting!
mike