According to what I have read about the virus, it "replies" to unread
emails. The copy I got was a re: to "RE: Rubber Restorer", which was a
thread a few weeks ago about restoring printer feeder rollers. I did post in
that thread. I would venture that everyone on the CC list who got a copy had
it titled in re: something they previously posted. I guess we have a second
reason to be upset with Mr. (or Ms.) Ring: s/he didn't read at least one of
our brilliant email posts.
BTW, can anybody check to see if Ring is a member of the list?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:32 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Spam from _sring(a)uslink.net?
<snip>
Curious, as I use this account exclusively to receive CC messages, and
mostly post to the list from it. <snip>
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a web page which list all the different Mac models
showing basic specs like processer and speed, memory and disk sizes?
I keep seeing Macs in the stores but can't keep all the model names and
numbers straight so a one or two sheet list describing them would be
very useful.
If no-one comes up with this I may just make one up from the Apple Spec
Database - in that case I'd like to know what key spec items should be
listed.
-- hbp
>Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh System to run on
>68K machines was? Where can I get a copy?
Varies with the machine. Which 68k processor (68000, 020, 030, 040), 32
bit clean?
The best place to find out what the last supported OS is, is check the
apple spec database. Down at the bottom of each mac's listing is a list
of supported OS versions.
Supported is a key term here, some can use versions that are not
supported, but you use them at your own risk. And don't assume similar
machines will always support the same OSes.
For instance, the Centris/Quadra 610 lists 8.0 as the last supported OS,
but other 040 machines like the Quadra 605 (a machine that is actually a
step down from the 610), can support 8.1. I can tell you from experience,
the 610 will accept an 8.1 install, and will even run for some time...
but you will eventually find that the finder will drag to a halt (even
scrolling a window will cause the watch to spin longer and longer,
finally topping out at about 5 minutes of spinning). And it will
eventually corrupt the hard drive. So for the 610, stop at 8.0, but the
605 can go to 8.1 safely.
You really need to check the spec database on a machine by machine basis.
And even then, it might pay to think about it, ie: my Classic II can
support 7.6.1, but it runs faster and smoother, and uses less RAM if I
stop at 7.5.5.
A general rule of thumb is, 6.0.8 for < 1mb Mac's, 7.5.5 for all other
68000, 7.6.1 for 020's and 030's, and 8.1 for 040's. But there are the
flukes in there like the Centris/Quadra 610, so just check before you
install.
As for getting them, System 6.0.8 (the last pre 7 version) is available
on Apple's web site for free. So is System 7.5.5. Anything newer you will
need to find used somewhere (many mac resellers have old OS CDs for sale
cheap... or just ask a friend that has a version to dupe it for you,
short of OS 9 and X, Apple probably won't care... but you do that at your
own risk, they might care, who knows). Older OS versions (pre 6) used to
be available on Apple's FTP site if you dug around, but I am not sure
they are still there.
And as a silly aside... has anyone ever tried running OS 7.0.1P on a 128k
Mac? According to Apple's Spec database, that is the last supported
version for the 128k... I have always wondered if it is a typo, or if it
really can run System 7 (someday maybe I will try it with mine)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Some guy sent me one for free and just got some new batteries in it. Powers
on and says READY P0 but can't figure out anything else. Google coming up 404
for usability info on this thing. How do you work this thing?
> Hi there,
>
> Does anyone know of a web page which list all the different Mac models
> showing basic specs like processer and speed, memory and disk sizes?
>
> I keep seeing Macs in the stores but can't keep all the model names and
> numbers straight so a one or two sheet list describing them would be
> very useful.
>
> If no-one comes up with this I may just make one up from the Apple Spec
> Database - in that case I'd like to know what key spec items should be
> listed.
That's what I did- just print out AppleSpec into book form.
-dq
> > Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh
> > System to run on 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy?
>
> According to LowEndMac it's either 7.6.1 or 8.1 depending on
> the machine....
Adrian's right, I read Sridhar's message wrong...
-dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: One Without Reason [mailto:vance@ikickass.org]
> Sent: 29 November 2001 14:41
> To: Classic Computers Mailing List
> Subject: Macintosh
>
>
>
> Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh
> System to run on
> 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy?
According to LowEndMac it's either 7.6.1 or 8.1 depending on the machine....
--
Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd
e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com
w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com
w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)
I have the binaries for HP-9826 HPL. Copied them onto floppy disks,
edited the file type directory entries with Lifutil and tried loading them.
I get the error message "unexpected use of FFFFFFC4"
Can anyone shed any light on this ?
Best Regards
Chris Leyson
> > It sucks, but if you scrap hardware, you have to render it useless.
>
> Would installing Windoze on it qualify?
That doesn't make it useless, just weighs it downlike a boat
anchor... paint it grey, stick it in the bass boat.
-dq
> > OK, the last part of my shipment just showed up, the Papertape reader. I'd
> > thought the PC04 was a reader/punch. Am I correct in my revised
> > assumption, that it came in three models; reader/punch, reader, and punch?
>
> I've heard of punch/reader and reader-only models. Never heard of a
> punch-only one. It could exist, though.
I'm basing the guess about a Punch only model from the pictures of the
switches in the printset I've got. It shows four layouts; Reader, Punch,
and two types of Punch/Reader.
> Well, on the front there should be a switch panel with 2 swtiches on it
> (reader on/off and tape feed). The punch/reader version has 4 swtiches
> (The other 2 are the same 2 functions for the punch).
That much at least looks complete.
> Inside the punch takes up the right hand side of the chassis. The logic
> backplane and PSU are on the left (the backplane will be fairly empty for
> a reader-only version, I think). The reader sits in the middle -- it's
> very simple -- a stepper motor with a large sproket wheel on the shaft, a
> 'festoon' lamp, and a phototransistor array. And not a lot else.
Hmm, in this case it sounds like I might have a complete Reader if I'm
lucky. I've not really spent much time looking at it yet. So far I've
spent my time looking into the PDP-8/E. Overall it looks pretty good,
in part thanks to the fact that the previous owner had started to restore it
a couple years ago.
I'm getting ready to see about checking out the powersupply, hopefully
either tonite or tomorrow morning. Is it safe to power it on to test the
voltages without any kind of a load?
Also, is there anyway to 'lubricate' the switches on the front panel?
Zane
