test-drb August 2000

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Lethal computers? (was: Goodwill Computerworks Museum is open

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >> Just how frequent ARE fatalities from computers? > >Very, Very rare. Injuries are rare as well (especially if the case isn't >open). I think we can discount RSI-type problems for a machine that will >only be used for a few minutes at a time. While they are rare they are not unheard of. The most common is small cuts from unborken metal edges, doors closing on parts of anatomy due to gravity, next is gears and wheels that grab or cut. Some systems that have hgh power (voltage or current) have caused burns. Of course there is the ever present screwdriver slipped and hand caught it. Allison

25 years, 1 month

Signetics "Instructor-50" docs (2650) available in Sunnyvale, CA

by frustum＠pacbell.net

While I was at Weirdstuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale, CA, this afternoon, I noticed that they had two boxes full of these docs: "Introduction to The Instructor 50 (tm) Desktop Computer" and "The Instructor 50 (tm) Desktop Computer Users' Guide" both are copyright 1978. The first is, oh, about 100 pages long, and the second is 200 pages. They were intended to be sold with the Signetics Instructor 50 computer, which uses a 2650 processor. Weirdstuff wants $1 apiece. Here is a link to a picture of one: http://www.zianet.com/kromeke/pastcomp/misc/signetic.htm They go through some rudiments of computers, some particulars of the 2650, some example programs, and then the usual description of all the opcodes. Hey, it even has an S-100 expansion capability. Schematics included. Anyway, if you are in the area and are interested, check it out. There are at least 20 of each, all completely unused (although a bit yellowed). I'll try to describe where -- it is in the back section, pretty much as far away from the entrance to the rear section as you can get. It is on a bottom shelf along the rear aisle. If you don't live in the area but are really interested, I'll consider filling a limited number of requests. (eg, you have an instructor 50, or you have a 2650-based computer but don't have any idea about its instruction set). I'd rather not find, address, stuff, and mail 20 packages for a bunch of tire kickers. ;-) ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

25 years, 1 month

Items for Trade

by jimoaks＠one.net

Hello all, im looking to trade alot of my classic stuff. Im looking for Amiga and Atari ST Items, Here is what I have. Please email me at jimoaks(a)one.net if interested. Trade List MAC: Mac Performa 630CD w mouse/keyboard Stylewriter 2 15" Multiscan Monitor Quadra 660AV Video not working. TANDY TRS-80 COCO 3 Working 14" Monitor 4 cartridges OFFTOPIC- Act Labs Force RS SEGA: Saturn Sega Saturn- Works- Controllers work in menus, but not in games. Saturn- NHL97 Boxed Saturn- FIFA 98 Boxed Saturn- Daytona USA Loose 2 Controllers RF Unit Genesis Sega Nomad- Works Great hardly used RF Unit 1 Sega Controllers Mortal Kombat NHL 98 NBA Live 96 NBA Jam Tony Larussa Madden 94 NHL 94 Buck Rogers:CountDown to Doomsday All Boxed, except Buck Rogers GAME GEAR: Game Gear Unit AC Adapter Sonic 2 NHL Allstar Hockey Both games Boxed NINTENDO: SNES: Snes Unit- Works Great 1 controllers 1 rf unit Wing Commander MLBPA 94 Super Empire Strikes Back NES: 1 Loose NES Unit- Works at times 2 Boxed NES Units- Both work, have all connections 4 controllers 1 light gun Baseball Sim 1.000 Destination EarthStar Dragon Warrior Home Alone IronSword-WW2 Nightmare on Elm RadRacer Skate or Die Super Mario 2 SuperMario/Duck Hunt Tecmo Baseball Teenage Mutant Turtles Top Gun Winter Games All not Boxed ATARI 5200: 5200 Unit Power supply Tv Unit Controller Unit Boxed works great, looks like rarely been played Pole Position Loose 2600/7800 Six Switch 2600 Atari 7800 Atari Controller 4 Switch 2600 Atari Controllers Atarti Paddle BOXED-7800 Centipede BOXED-7800 ROBOTRON BOXED-Realsports Baseball Asteroids Baseball Berzerk Bowling BOXED-Pitfall Breakout China Syndrome Circus Atari Combat Defender Demons to Diamonds Dolphin Donkey Kong Dragonfire Dragster Empire Strikes Back Enduro Flash Gordon Football Gangster Alley Golf Gorf Grand Prix Indy 500 International Soccer Jungle Hunt Kangaroo Laser Blast Maze Craze MegaMania Missle Command Moon Patrol Night Driver Omega Race Pac Man Pele's Soccor Pitfall Planet Patrol Pole Position Pong Sports Private Eye Q-Bert Raiders of the Lost Ark RealSports Baseball RealSports Football RealSports Volleyball Riddle of the Sphinx River Raid Slot Racers Solaris Space Invaders Space Shuttle Speedway 2 Star Raiders Star Voyager Strawberry Shortcake Street Racer Summer Games-PAL Super Breakout Surround TAZ Tennis Turmoil Video Checkers Video Olympics Video Pinball WarLords Yars Revenge INTELLIVISION: Space Battle Space Hawk Astromash All Boxed ODYSSEY: Las Vegas Black Jack Football Alien Invaders-Plus All Boxed http://www.classicmag.net Preserving the Past for the Future

25 years, 1 month

Apple II FAQ

by paulrsm＠ameritech.net

For those having Apple II computers and little or no documentation: The Csa2 (comp.sys.apple2) Usenet newsgroup Apple II FAQs originate from the Ground Apple II archive, 1997-2000. Ground Apple II Administrator: Steve Nelson ftp://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Faqs/ http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/Faqs/ The Csa2 FAQs may be freely distributed. Two mirrors are: http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/A2FAQs1START.html http://www.grin.net/~cturley/A2.FAQs.and.INFO/CSA2.FAQs/Csa21MAIN1.txt

25 years, 1 month

pdp 8/e M8655 serial card

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>The main console should be devices 03 and 04, if i recall correctly >from 25 years ago... Yup >Does anyone have this information in a text file, or a better quality scan >of the printset? http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/hard8e/kl8ja.html If people have problems with the scans on my site, email me. Most of them (this one included) are due to the quality of the original but I may have scan problems with some. If anybody has a better copy they can scan or can send me a copy I will put it on my site. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Old computers with blinkenlights

25 years, 1 month

A reason to hit ARC, etc.

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

I thought ARC was that compression format that descended to obscurity after SEA sued Phil Katz (g,d & r). -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Will Jennings Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:36 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: A reason to hit ARC, etc. Its umm American Retarded Citizens or something like that...

25 years, 1 month

Lethal computers? (was: Goodwill Computerworks Museum is open

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Yes, but most of those will only occur if you're working inside the >machine. I've seen plenty of sharp edges on metal brackets _inside_ >computers (particularly cheap PCs), but none on the outside of the case >when it's assembled fully. Moving parts are similarly enclosed (and are >not really an issue for most micros anyway). All high voltage/current >connections are enclosed. And you don't need a screwdriver to _use_ a >computer. Ok... cases in point... DEC LP27 gas springs for the cover fail... score one scalp line cut for both FS AND Customer. LP25, charaband hand stopped, fingers enter anyway... customer. Oh, reason for opening, needed new ribbon. Rack full of RLO2s, customer pulls one out after pushing in the anti-tip foot... first one slides out, then two... Customer pinned against wall. FS checking out what happend and why repeats event! Customer leans against BA32 with MVII, said unit tips, customer employee nets broken toe. Shall I continue? iIt does happen even if only a few times a year. When it come to anything harder or larger than dust someone will find a way to hurt themselves with it. Or the corollary, foolproof, isn't! Only fools believe it. Allison

25 years, 1 month

Heads Up in St. Louis

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

There is a lady named Louise Barrett that owns a Flea market located at 8919 Natural Bridge Rd. at I-70 in Bel-Ridge, phone is 314-423-6335. She has cases after cases of printer ribbons and toner cartridges for lasers and is willing to let it all go for next to nothing just take it all. I could not do it as we had the small van with us and not my big one. You collectors there may want to get together and split up among yourselves. I only got a small number of items there this trip and will put a list soon along with some auctions items I got at a apple dealer sale. John Keys

25 years, 1 month

A reason to hit ARC, etc.

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

It might be Aircraft Radio Corporation, makers of the well known ARC-5 radio, but somehow I doubt it. Joe At 02:47 PM 8/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >Betraying my ignorance, but what's an ARC? > >-- Tony > >> ---------- >> From: Will Jennings[SMTP:xds_sigma7@hotmail.com] >> Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:46 PM >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: A reason to hit ARC, etc. >> >> At one ARC in Colorado Springs (prices in dollars in parenthesis): >> VAXstation 2000 (6) >> the TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 front end programs for the '11 in the system (3) >> An HP-150 (which I am kicking myself for not buying even though it was a >> year ago! 6) >> >> Will J >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >

25 years, 1 month

Digital Ultra Note

by mbg＠world.std.com

>I saw a small notebook computer called a Digital Ultra Note at the >recycling center. unfortunately, the guy who handles surplus sales >is gone for 2 weeks so i wasnt able to obtain it, but i'm curious >about it. My web searches return things that look more like laptop >computers than a thin notebook computer. Hinote Ultra Nice machine... top of the line was the CT475, active matrix, 486 at 75 mhz. If you look at the machine, you should notice it does NOT have a floppy drive... for the 'Hinote Ultra', the floppy is an optional wedge which attaches underneath. One can also attach a CDrom and speaker system to one of these machines. In this case, though, you lose the floppy. I know I'd love to get another one (mine is currently on the disabled list). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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