test-drb June 2000

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Should I add a "Micro" PDP11/73 to the Herd?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> If it's at all windy, or even a little breezy, be careful with those >> rack side panels, as they can go flying into something rather easily. >Would it be feasible to remove the skins and set it on its side (on >a quilt)? Yes, that's my preferred way for transporting H9642's when they can't be moved standing up. The quilt is there to protect your truck bed, not the rack :-). Again, make sure the side panels don't blow away, there's a pair of VAX 11/750 top panels *somewhere* along the side of the Santa Monica freeway that disappeared once during a haul of mine... >I'll at least be transferring the plexiglass tape drive window >to the Cipher I have for the Prime. BTW, I asked the seller to >check the rear plate of the TS05, thinking it *is* a Cipher F880 >and he came back and said it has only a TS05 ID plate. > >The front bezel is *identical* to the F880 streamer. Do you know >yea/nay on this? Mechanically, they're identical except for the nameplates. There may be slightly different firmware/electronics, but these vary depending on the F880 rev level anyway. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

24 years, 1 month

Am2900 Bipolar Microprocessor Databook

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Count me in, please... -doug quebbeman > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Barron [mailto:pat@transarc.ibm.com] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 3:19 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Am2900 Bipolar Microprocessor Databook > > > Well, I corresponded with some folks at AMD, and didn't quite get > everything I wanted, but this might help somebody. > > They have approved me making up to 10 copies of the Am2900 > databook. My > plan is to scan it in and turn it into a PDF file. > Therefore, I can only > make copies available to 10 people. > > If you are seriously interested in a copy of this, let me > know (John Keys - I > assume you'd like a copy, and already have you down for one). > If you get > a copy of this from me, you may not redistribute it to anyone. You'll > also need to be patient, as it may take a week or two for me > to get around > to doing this. > > If substantially more than 10 people are interested, I'll go > back to them > and request further permission, but this was all they felt > they could let > me do without running my request through legal review. > > --Pat. > >

24 years, 1 month

RSX-11M for Supnik emulator ?

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Speaking of PDP-11 emulators and licenses ... >Is there anywhere I can get an RSX-11M distribution for use with Supnik's >emulator? The current Mentec license appears to permit this (at least, >for RSX-11M V4.3 and previous, or RSX-11M PLUS V3.0 or previous), but the >software isn't on the DEC FTP site. Back when the Mentec license became available, I took a copy of my V5.3 kit and packaged it up for Bob Supnik so that he could get it up on the DEC ftp site. Unfortunately, by that time there was simply no-one from the RSX or RSTS groups left to do the same for those systems. And now, Bob Supnik is no longer around, so I don't know who to contact about putting stuff up on the site. Hopefully Mentec could be persuaded to have an archive of distributions available (once they actually allow the hobbyist use)... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

24 years, 1 month

paging Will Jennings

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

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24 years, 1 month

Wirin' up blinkenlights

by Anthony.Eros＠compaq.com

Here's a question for the group. I have a PC running Bob Supnik's PDP-11 simulator and a PDP-11/45 front panel with no CPU boards. I'd like to do sort of a faux PDP-11/45 with this setup by somehow wiring the front panel up to the PC running Sim. Am I completely out of my mind, or is there even the remotest chance of getting something like this to work? -- Tony

24 years, 1 month

How do you finance/afford your computer collection?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 23, 13:43, Geoff Roberts wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:13 AM > Subject: Re: How do you finance/afford your computer collection? > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > which is ridiculous, because "Windows-1252" is a unique Microsoft > > non-standard character set (meant to be similar to ISO 8859-1, but > with a > > unique symbol order), and it's also an 8-bit character set which can't > be > > represented in 7 bits without using base64, uuencode, > quoted-printable, or > > similar. > > > > I'm not complaining, merely informing :-) > > No problem. :^) > > Bloody thing. Thanks for that. I'm going to reach into the registry > settings or whatever and bludgeon it into submission. It seems to be > resetting the charset to whatever I'm replying to, and if I change it, > it only changes for the one msg and then reverts to that. > (Theoretically, it's supposed to be the ISO set not that one.) > I'm going to find out what does this and fix it. I'll let you know how > I get on. Bill Gates has a lot to answer for. Best of luck :-) Several months ago, one of our most senior members of staff (who has been around a long time, and is perfectly happy with text mail, Unix, etc, but has to use a PC for various reasons) sent several long messages to 'support' in mixed HTML+<something else> format, which caused some touble for our support mail system. I politely advised him of this and he said he'd fix it. Well, the next mail was still full of cruft, so I pointed out that we don't support Outlook, and could he please stop using it or set it properly. OK, he replied, in plain text. But the next message was in -- guess what! So I politely mailed him back, just to let him know. There followed a long discussion; basically he refused to beleive his mailer (Outlook) was sending crud because he'd reset it, tested it, and couldn't beleive that his computer/OS could non-deterministically change its own settings. We never did get entirely to the bottom of it, but it seems that in some versions of Outlook, certain settings only apply to that session (ie are reset next time you restart), and some settings are accessible in two places, and you have to change both. We still don't support Outlook, in fact we remove it from view in our standard installs of Windows. But it's still there and people still use it, and it's mostl OK so long as it's set up sensibly. The problem is that Microsoft don't really understand standards like TCP/IP, MIME, DNS, ... (or just don't believe in them). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years, 1 month

RSX-11M for Supnik emulator ?

by pat＠transarc.ibm.com

Speaking of PDP-11 emulators and licenses ... Is there anywhere I can get an RSX-11M distribution for use with Supnik's emulator? The current Mentec license appears to permit this (at least, for RSX-11M V4.3 and previous, or RSX-11M PLUS V3.0 or previous), but the software isn't on the DEC FTP site. --Pat.

24 years, 1 month

IBM System/38 Availible (Again)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Based on my experiences with System/36's, 8100's, and other IBM machinery.. the thing almost certainly has a welded steel frame. I took all the panels off and the dual 14" disks out of a 5360, and I'll be damned if I didn't only remove about 250lbs., tops. BTW, be CAREFUL picking up 5360's with a forklift, they are very unbalanced by the humongous transformer on the power supply end, my dad and I went to unload mine, and it started to try to take a dive off the forklift attachment on our tractor. Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

24 years, 1 month

Should I add a "Micro" PDP11/73 to the Herd?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Jerome Fine wrote: > > Since you are local and will not have to pay shipping, you > > have a huge advantage when it comes to anyone else. > > BUT, you will need to have a van or a small truck. And > > Also, it can all be moved in two trips with a mid-sized station-wagon > (e.g. - a Gran Torino)... well, possibly one if you really squeezed > the stuff in there. Well, right now, it's not for certain I'll get it, since John Allain is bidding against me. Hi, John... are you local to Louisville area? I'll be using a pickup truck, and it's a single 42 inch high cabinet, so I think that'll be sufficient. > If it's at all windy, or even a little breezy, be careful with those > rack side panels, as they can go flying into something rather easily. Would it be feasible to remove the skins and set it on its side (on a quilt)? > > bring some tools so that you can separate the components. > ..snip.. > > Note: ask for any tapes, documentation, etc. as soon as possible, not > another trip, if possible, as such things tend to get lost or tossed > out quickly after the system goes away or gets unplugged. The system is in the hands of a sort-of-collector, not at its original installed site. The photo shows a bookcase of what appear to be manuals, but he may intend to sell them separately. I'll ask, tho, to be sure. > > You will find it much easier if you only need to lift one item at a > > time rather than the whole cabinet. Note that the tape drive alone > > can be about 100 lb. Two people can usually handle that easily. > > Several years ago, I disassembled, moved, and reassembled an entire > 11/73 rack myself, including the TS05 tape drive, expansion chasis, > two 8" SMD drives, etc. Just be careful to lift with the knees and > not the back. Of course, it would be a lot easier with two people, > and much more pleasant a task with the temperatures in the 50s. :-) Hah, it will likely be in the high 80s or low 90s if I get the dang thing. Fortunately, the truck is being driven by a farm boy, so he's used to lifting that bale, toting that barge... > > If it is working or you can fix it yourself, that will be a great find > > IF ou have an opportunity to actually use the drive, and especially > > if you need it. > > Most definitely! :-) I'll at least be transferring the plexiglass tape drive window to the Cipher I have for the Prime. BTW, I asked the seller to check the rear plate of the TS05, thinking it *is* a Cipher F880 and he came back and said it has only a TS05 ID plate. The front bezel is *identical* to the F880 streamer. Do you know yea/nay on this? -dq

24 years, 1 month

New HP150 software finds.

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Ernest" <ernestls(a)home.com> wrote: > What's happening is that my Pentium system doesn't recognize the format of > these old SS 3.5 disks, even though they are formatted with MSDOS (FAT 12 I > think.) My Pentium will see the 720k disks that I format on the HP but not > the old SS disks. Does anyone know why? No, but Sydex wrote a shareware MS-DOS device driver that used to be available on simtel.net's MS-DOS collection, which supposedly allowed the reading and maybe writing of HP150 stiffies in a PC stiffy drive. Sad to say, I couldn't get it to work on my Toshiba notebook PC (MS-DOS 6.22) for purposes of reading a single-sided HP150 stiffy. You might have better luck. -Frank McConnell

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