test-drb February 2000

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[ClassicCMP] Re: ClassicCMP Re: [ClassicCmp] Tag requested in Subject: line

by owad＠applefritter.com

>I have to come out as vehemently opposed to this. I'm on a couple of lists >that do this, and *all* it really achieves is reducing the number of >visibie/useful characters in the Subject: header, and increasing the >noise level. I agree; it is a bit of a nuisance. ClassicCmp gets so much traffic I'm sure most of us have it automatically sorted. At worst, how about just '[C]'? Tom Owad ------------------------------Applefritter------------------------------ Apple Prototypes, Clones, & Hacks - The obscure, unusual, & exceptional. ---------------------<http://www.applefritter.com/>---------------------

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Re: [ClassicCmp] Tag requested in Subject: line

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 5, 11:18, Mike Cheponis wrote: > I'd like to see a small tag be prefixed to the Subject: line so that it's > easier to know that the email came from the Classic Computer list. > > I suggest the Majordomo "config" file include a line like this: > > subject_prefix = [ClassicCmp] > > or somesuch. That way, it's quite easy to sort on messages from this list > both automatically, and, equally important, manually. No!!! Please! Any sensible mailer can sort on, or at least display, one of the "Sender:" or "To:" field, or the envelope "From" (not the header "From:") instead of the envelope "To" line. All of these, as well as the "Reply-to:", refer to the mailing list address. Anyone who hasn't seen all the headers, see below for the headers as I received Mike's message, and you'll see what I mean. All the prefix does is make it messy, and waste space. -------------------received headers below here--------------------------- >From owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sat Feb 5 23:59:44 2000 Received: from localhost by indy.dunnington.u-net.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/980207.PNT) for <pete@localhost> id XAA07839; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:59:44 GMT Envelope-to: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com Delivery-date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:52:39 +0000 Received: from mail.u-net.com by fetchmail-4.6.0 POP3 for <pete/localhost> (multi-drop); Sat, 05 Feb 2000 23:59:44 GMT Received: from [209.83.134.16] (helo=opal.tseinc.com) by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12HBG2-0004Gp-00 for pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:52:38 +0000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by opal.tseinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA64868 for classiccmp-classiccmp-org-outgoing; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:18:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org) X-Authentication-Warning: opal.tseinc.com: majordom set sender to owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org using -f Received: from NameServer.Culver.Net (mac(a)[206.79.230.38]) by opal.tseinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA64863 for <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:18:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mac(a)Wireless.Com) Received: from localhost (mac@localhost) by NameServer.Culver.Net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA18471; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:18:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:18:55 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Cheponis <mac(a)Wireless.Com> X-Sender: mac(a)NameServer.Culver.Net To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: [ClassicCmp] Tag requested in Subject: line In-Reply-To: <20000205114512.B17681(a)dbit.dbit.com> Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.05L.10002051112130.15055-100000(a)NameServer.Culver.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org -------------------received headers above here--------------------------- -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Macintosh Portable questions.

by owad＠applefritter.com

>How much would a 3Mb (or larger) memory expander card cost? All luck. They're so obscure there really is no set price. >How much would a car power adapter cost? You'd probably be best off just getting an AC to car converter. I have a "Curtis Power Maker 50" which I paid about $50 for, and it works fine. >Were there ever any cards released that used the ROM slot? >Were there ever any cards released that used the PDS slot? All I can think of is the modem and memory cards. >Where can I find a detailed pin-out diagram of the Portable's video out >socket & a PC's VGA video socket? This could be tough. An adapter is required to use an external monitor on the Mac Portable, and I've never heard of anybody actually owning one. Unless you can find a _lot_ more information, you'd probably have better luck finding a SCSI-based monitor. Tom ------------------------------Applefritter------------------------------ Apple Prototypes, Clones, & Hacks - The obscure, unusual, & exceptional. ---------------------<http://www.applefritter.com/>---------------------

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Heath H89 diskette request

by west＠tseinc.com

Another kind list user has just blessed me with four H89's and an H19, about 4 external 5.25 drives and one or two 8" drive boxes, along with a TON of manuals, software, etc. I was wondering if anyone can point me to a source for 5.25" floppy disk media for the drives that are internal to the H89's. I believe they are hard sector, perhaps 10 sector? Thanks in advance! Jay West

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Re: Disk size limits in VMS 5.4-1?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I believe VMS 5.4 is early enough that it doesn't like non-dec drives. I w <unable to get my seagate drive to show up at all until I upgraded to VMS 7 <whatever is on the hobbiest cdrom v2. The older versions' scsi driver was <finicky. There's a workaround, but I've forgotten what it is, and I'm sur <someone will post it. Was never a problem on my 3100, one had a quantum 120mb prodrive. It's close in size to the RZ23 but not exactly. Allison

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Does RSX-11M 4.0 support MSCP drives?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Does anyone know if RSX-11M 4.0 supports MSCP drives? --Chuck

24 years, 10 months

Disk size limits in VMS 5.4-1?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I have a very perplexing problem. What I want to do is mount a Seagate ST410800N on a VMS 5.4-1 system. The hardware is a VAX 4000/300 with an Emulex UC-08-III controller half of which is in MSCP mode. (the other half is talking to the tape drive) There are two existing 1GB (Imprimis) drives on this system. First attempt: Put the drive into the SCSI chain, terminate it correctly, drives are targets 0, 1, and 2. The new drive is now target 0, the others are moved to 1 and 2. I reset the VAX and get into the Emulex firmware (rev 'M' (changed to 'R' later, see below)) and try to autoconfigure the drives. The two 1GB drives show up like they should, the 9GB drive shows up as a 500MB drive. Weird. Second attempt: Replace the firmware in the Emulex with version 'R'. Attempt to reconfigure, same problem as #1. Third attempt: Attempt to manually specify the geometry and notice that the Seagate is reporting it has 4925 cylinders but the prompt says the number has to be between 20 and 4095. I enter a number smaller than 4095 and say 'OK'. Now the drive shows up as having 14x10E6 blocks! Ok so now we're getting somewhere but I forgot to configure the other two. Fourth Attempt: Recompute "Fake" heads/sectors numbers so that by using 4094 cylinders I get close to the drives 17,845,431 blocks. Configure the two 1GB drives with all the defaults. Seagate drive shows up as a 1/2 G drive again. On a whim I subtract the number of blocks shown from what it should be, the result is in the 16x10E6 range, aha! I say. Fifth Attempt: Recompute cylinder/sector/head numbers so that the total will be less than 2^24-1 blocks. This works and I end up with a controller that thinks the drive is about 8GB in size (I could live with this for now...). So we go all the way up to VMS. In VMS I type 'INIT DUA0: TEST' and it fails with "%INIT-F-CLUSTER unsuitable cluster factor", I drill down through the help files but there doesn't seem to be a comment on this. It talks about VAX clusters and CLUSTER_SIZE which I tried setting to higher numbers (like 10 or 16). But nothing has worked so far. My questions then are: 1) Is there a way to get the Emulex controller to recognize more that 2^24 blocks on a SCSI drive? 2) Does VMS have a volume size limit in 5.4-1 that I need to know about? 3) If I "split" the volume on the Emulex into two logical drives, can the sum of the logical drive sizes be greater than 8GB? Curious minds want to know! --Chuck (Who is enjoying VMS for the time being ... ;-))

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Macintosh Portable questions.

by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

Here are a few questions I have about the Macintosh Portable How much would a 3Mb (or larger) memory expander card cost? How much would a car power adapter cost? Were there ever any cards released that used the ROM slot? Were there ever any cards released that used the PDS slot? Where can I find a detailed pin-out diagram of the Portable's video out socket & a PC's VGA video socket? (The info in the manual is too vague, I require more info so I can at least try to rig-up a cable that can use a regular VGA monitor. That is all assuming that this is even possible in the first place) I know that Dynamic Engineering & Ebay have some of the things that I am looking for, but I am not paying *that* much for some of that stuff, they must think I'm an idiot or something. Also I really don't trust Ebay that much. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Re: [ClassicCmp] Tag requested in Subject: line

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:18 AM 2/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >I don't much care -exactly- what the subject_prefix ends up being, just some >tag that uniquely identifies the message as coming from classiccmp. [CCC] would be shorter. If your mail program is doing the filtering, classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org is sprinkled throughout the header - or is there a filter out there that can only look at subject lines? Or are we talking about filtering performmed by your eyes on your mailbox? - John

24 years, 10 months

[ClassicCMP] Re: What's a WD2793A chip?

by edick＠idcomm.com

It sat as a mazzanine board on the 820 board, in place of the 1771 in order to enable the 820 to handle MFM format. regards, Dick -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: Re: What's a WD2793A chip? >Richard, > > Exactly what was add-on supposed to do for the Xerox 820? > > Joe > > >At 08:46 AM 2/5/00 -0700, Richard wrote: >>There may well have been one of these. I've got a one or two of the ones >a Denver company made for the Xerox 820 to insert a 1791/95 in place of the >1771. I even have the writeup somewhere, but no software patches. It just >seems that I never have both the mezzanine board and the doc at the same >time. >> >>Dick >> -----Original Message----- >> From: No Name <lsommo(a)hotmail.com> >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >> Date: Saturday, February 05, 2000 8:49 AM >> Subject: Re: What's a WD2793A chip? >> >> >> Wasn't there an add-on developed for the Xerox 820/ Big Board that >used the 2793? As I recall it was a a simpler (and less expensive) circuit >as compared to the other add-on being offered at the time. I had one and >lost it (as well as my 256K memory expansion board) during the course of my >moves. If anyone has the schematics for it I'd like to try and put another >one together. >> >> Lou >> >>Attachment Converted: "C:\ATTACH\ReWhat'1.htm" >> >

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