test-drb February 2000

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by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Hi Gang: Found on Usenet. Contact the poster directly. Kevin ----------------- I have an original model PDP-8 (core serial number 35) which I no longer have space for. It's the tabletop model with smoked plastic covers. I would like to give it to a museum that could take care of it and hopefully display it. If any of you know of a place that would be interested, please let me know. Thanks. Philip Lantz prl(a)mira.rain.com

24 years, 4 months

Wanted: software & docs for Intel Series II & III MDS "blue boxes"

by eric＠brouhaha.com

I just acquired an Intel Series III MDS "blue box", to go along with several Series IIs that I've had for a while. Unfortunately, I don't have any software or documentation for either the Series II or Series III, not even the ISIS operating system. If anyone has spares or could make copies available, it would be most appreciated. For those not familiar with the Intel blue boxes: The Series II MDS is Multibus-based, and has either an IPB-80 or IPC-85 CPU card, based on the 8080 and 8085, respectively. There's also an IOC (Input/Output Card) that supports all of the integral I/O devices such as the monitor, keyboard, serial ports, and single-density floppy disk. An external double-density floppy disk system can be added; it uses two Multibus cards, a channel card and an interface card, and apparently uses M2FM code rather than IBM 3740-compatible MFM. The Series II normally runs the ISIS operating system, although I hear there was also a version of CP/M. A Series III MDS is mostly the same as a Series II with an IPC-85, but it adds a two-board RPC-86, which is an 8086-based "Resident Processor Card". A software package called "RUN" acts as the loader and ISIS operating system interface for the 8086.

24 years, 4 months

Thanks Jay

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I'll second that! Thanks Jay!! Jeff On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 20:34:20 -0800 Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> writes: > > I just thought it appropriate to say a public thanks to Jay for all > the work > done on the list in bringing it back up. It is MUCH appreciated!!! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

24 years, 4 months

Thanks Jay

by edick＠idcomm.com

Yes, indeed! Hats off to Jay! Dick -----Original Message----- From: Marvin <marvin(a)rain.org> To: Classic Computers <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: Thanks Jay > >I just thought it appropriate to say a public thanks to Jay for all the work >done on the list in bringing it back up. It is MUCH appreciated!!!

24 years, 4 months

Thanks Jay

by marvin＠rain.org

I just thought it appropriate to say a public thanks to Jay for all the work done on the list in bringing it back up. It is MUCH appreciated!!!

24 years, 4 months

[ClassicCMP] Does RSX-11M 4.0 support MSCP drives?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Apologies if anyone already got this; I originally posted it during what seems to have been an outage, and I assume the original is lost... On Feb 5, 20:19, Chuck McManis wrote: > At 12:31 AM 2/6/00 +0000, ete(a)dunnington.u-net.com (Pete Turnbull) wrote: ^^^ ete? :-) > >On Feb 5, 14:47, Chuck McManis wrote: > > > Does anyone know if RSX-11M 4.0 supports MSCP drives? > > > >4.x certainly does, but I can't remember exactly which interfaces. > >The earliest MSCP support appeared in 3.x, I think. Nope, Pete was wrong again. It looks like MSCP support first appeared in 4.0. And I never did get my RQDX3 to work under RSX-11 (but I never had a version later than 4.2). > Well it may be moot if the tape is destroyed, however the plan was to > install it on an 11/23 using a Sigma RQDE11 (Webster licensed) board. I can > tell it to report back to RSX any set of disks I would like. The trick is > whether or not RSX will do the MSCP thing. (RT-11 won't for example until > 5.1 :-() I've never done an install from tape, except to recover a backup, and then what matters is what standalone BRU or DSC supports. In 4.2 at least, BRU and BRU64K.SYS (the standalone) do support MSCP, but the manual only lists RA80/RA60/RA81/RC25/RD51/RX50 disks (and no MSCP tapes at all). DSC only supports the RA80; standalone DSC has no MSCP support at all in 4.2. I'd expect 4.0 supports even less. The list above implies RQDX1 support and other things, but not RQDX3. That might be a problem, because I think there's a bug in the early DU: handler that prevents it working with RQDX3s. I certainly never got RSX-11 4.2 to work with any RQDX3, and the same bug might apply to a 3rd-party controller. Best way to find out is to try it. I reckon there's a reasonable chance it will work, especially if your disk controller works with RT-11 5.1. In RT-11, full MSCP support post-dates even 5.1. 5.1 works with RQDX1/2, but not RQDX3, for example; because whoever wrote the DU: handler ignored the MSCP documentation and made an unwarranted assumption about the contents of the SA register during initialisation. It took me ages to trace the problem and fix it :-). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

24 years, 4 months

TF85 internals

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

This apparently didn't make it out to the list. I was cleaning a TF85 (DSSI desktop model) and discovered that the drive talks to a bridgeboard that talks DSSI. The connector to the drive is the same number of pins as the TK70 drive. My question is whether or not one can drive the TK85 mechanism from a TQK70. I ask because I would like to put the drive inside a cabinet (BA213) and would rather not have the bridge board laying in there as well. --Chuck

24 years, 4 months

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by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Guys: Could any of you use a few RL02K-DC disk packs? I have three of them, shock-watches intact on two-- the third one doesn't have it. Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

24 years, 4 months

Apple manuals available for download

by bsa3＠cornell.edu

Apple has released about thirteen years worth of product manuals in Acrobat format; the URL is <http://www.info.apple.com/manuals/manuals.taf>. Unfortunately, the covered time period starts with the IIci and Portable, which are topical by the ten-year rule, but we can always hope for more... -- Brad Ackerman N1MNB "You're a cyborg -- look it up." bsa3(a)cornell.edu Wandering Gweep -- Bradley Rhodes, to Josh Weaver PGP: 0x62D6B223 http://skaro.pair.com/ IAP lecture, 21 January 2000

24 years, 4 months

HP System available in Oregon

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Don't ask any specifics, I don't know them, and I've not seen the system. The Hillsboro "Wacky Willies" currenty has a largish HP system in back (you'd have to ask about it, I was in there yesterday and didn't even see it as they've blocked of the entire back half of the store). From what I was told it's at least one 19" rack, and bunch of terminals, lots of documentation, and I think tapes. I gather it might be something like a 735? Again, I know nothing about this system, someone I know that messes with DEC and Sun stuff spotted it and thought I might know someone that's interested. He said it's *over* a pickup worth of stuff! Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

24 years, 4 months

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test-drb February 2000