On Feb 4, 17:01, Jay West wrote:
> Now that the major issue appears to be resolved, I'm taking requests on
> any other list behaviour that people don't like. I don't promise to
> implement all of them, but I'll gladly take a look at it.
My request-for-enhancement is:
"do something" about HTML, or better still, "do something" about
any "multipart/alternative" posting (which would include M$
richtext, with those application/ms-tnef attachments).
Options I can think of:
a) silently discard any such postings (probably not a good idea)
b) bounce them back to the author, with an explanation of why bounced
c) remove the non-text part
d) combination of (b) and (c)
e) accept, but warn the author (who may not realise (s)he's sent HTML)
All of these would involve scanning the content to a greater or lesser
extent. I've no idea how doable that would be with majordomo, whether the
extra processing is acceptable to the server, or whether Jay has the time
to do that.
Just for information, some of these policies are implemented on our
helpdesk at work, which automatically tracks, redirects, and archives user
support enquiries. We implement (e) on the first "offence", and (b)
thereafter, but since every incoming email is read by a human, we do it by
paw and memory, and occasionally discretion (ie we tend to discard fewer
mails from professors than students :-)). We also have a policy of
discarding attachments (or indeed any message) by simple automated
truncation at the 10-kilobyte mark (mainly to prevent filling mailboxes and
archives with "why doesn't this 4Mb PostScript/JPEG/Word document print?").
I think the record idiocy was a 63MB Word document ("I can't send this
document to my friend. Why?")
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
<In RT-11, full MSCP support post-dates even 5.1. 5.1 works with RQDX1/2,
define full?
<but not RQDX3, for example; because whoever wrote the DU: handler ignored
Dont tell mine RT11 V5.01c system then as the RQDX3 runs just fine. To
the best of my knowlege RQDXn are interchangeable (I have done that) with
one exception... the drive must be formatted for the RQDX3 as it's
apparently different from the 1/2.
Allison
The list still here? I have a hard time believing zero posts since last night.
Zane
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Apologies if anyone already got this; I originally posted it during what
seems to have been an outage, and I assume the original is lost...
On Feb 5, 20:16, Chuck McManis wrote:
> I'd send to Gary but, you know ...
>
> Go to the options panel and turn off "use microsoft viewer" and it wont
> convert to HTML. It will still "flow" it however. So this message has
been
> "flowed" by Eudora, can anyone confirm or deny that it is in HTML or RTF?
> (I see it as having two change bar type things on the left side.
Neither, it's flat text; no HTML, no attachments.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Well this is my third message since last night and I haven't seen one yet.
Then the Ping's came through this morning, perhaps this one will make it...
--Chuck
Oh, I forgot to tell you, there is a disk in the software pile called
EMULATE. It will allow you to read and write several other computer disk
write schemes (Kaypro, Osborne, Cromemco, Tandy, Magnolia, CDR, Z-37, Z-47,
Etc.). The disks need to be the same media (Hard Sector or Soft Sector) but
it works pretty slick.
Mike
<Certainly possible, the controller can "split" the drive into multiple
<parts probably to get around this. Does anyone know what the largest drive
<VMS 5.4 could use? Is that in the Software SPD somewhere? (This I have but
<it is pretty opaque)
<--Chuck
It's not so much a limit on 5.4 as the specific hardware limits that were
usually lower than VMS maxima. FOr example 3100s(early) cant have a boot
device more than 1.07gb but data devices can be much larger. The problem
was a artifact of early SCSI implmentations and not VMS limits. Since VMS
allowed (even before V5) things like bound and shadow volumes to create
terabyte sized disk fields I can see a limit for practical systems.
Allison
I think Jay has turned them off, at least a couple of messages further down
seem to have them off, but the point is not how long they are, it is that
the software is too stupid to see "Re: [ClassicCMP]" and say "gee this
thing already has a tag on it, I'll leave it alone." Instead it adds
another one, so every reply adds 16 characters to the subject line. Tags
are evil.
--Chuck
At 06:05 PM 2/5/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I think just [C] or [CC] would be OK, too.
>-Mike
On Feb 5, 14:47, Chuck McManis wrote:
> Does anyone know if RSX-11M 4.0 supports MSCP drives?
4.x certainly does, but I can't remember exactly which interfaces. I
recall using an RQDX2 on miy 11/73, maybe RQDX3. The earliest MSCP support
appeared in 3.x, I think. I assume you have a reason for asking? If I know
what interface/drive you were thinking of, I might be able to look it up in
the SYSGEN manual.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
On Feb 5, 9:09, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> I like b) most. This sending of HTML, happens mostly to new members, (or
to
> "old" users, which got a browser "update" ;-)) so they can see
immediatly
> whats wrong, and we don't even see this email, so no reason for a new
> discussion about it AGAIN. ;-)
I've noticed on rare occasions, that regular contributors post an HTML or
multipart message as a follow-up. I don't have one handy to check, but I
suspect that's due to Netscape Messenger (and I think Outlook may do it
too) having a setting that normally sends plain text, but HTML-ises a
reply to an HTML message. I'm pretty sure the regulars who've let that
happen have done so unintentionally.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York