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From: "Eric Schweitzer (archy)" <ershc(a)schmooze.hunter.cuny.edu>
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Subject: itt tty
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:21:46 -0500
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A family friend died, and while cleaning out some woodworking stuff, I
noticed an ITT teletype sitting in the garage. I know nothing about its
working condition, and didn't have time to look for a model number or the
like, but it does have a paper tape reader/punch (with some blank tape and
a 1/2 full chad container). His widow thinks it worked when last used, but
that was a while ago. It is free for the pickup, if anyone accessable to
the north shore of Long Island (Nassau County, New York State, U.S.A.)
is interested in it. Otherwise, it will get tossed.
Email me for contact info.
--- healyzh(a)aracnet.com wrote:
> You're not the only one with it on your todo list. I've got one I need to
> get up and running since as I understand it, it can do Reverse LAT, and act
> as a Console Server. I *NEED* a console server!
>
> For anyone that's wondering (I know Chuck knows) the software is on the just
> about any VAX or Alpha VMS ConDist.
I have one, too (and the uVAX2000 w/disk that it used to boot from). What I
would like to do is fire up DECnet on a Linux box and start the DECserver
>from there. Has anyone tried _that_ yet?
-ethan
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A similar tragedy (although on a much smaller scale) last week.
Arrive at coffee at 11:15 to be told that an IBM PS/2 P70 (386
plasma luggable) has been placed/thrown on the skip. This is
in direct contravention of my standing orders that I should be told
before anything is thrown away - but no one listens....
Anyway, deciding that no more damage will come to the item while I
finish my coffee, I finish my coffee. Twenty minutes later and I'm
standing next to the skip or more correctly I would be
standing next to the skip if the skip was there - it's gone.
I am overcome with guilt - if only I'd gone immediately, if only
I'd broken a few legs earlier to impress upon people that I collect
junk^H^H^H^H antiques.
However I later discover that the skip had been removed a minute or
two before 11:00, so even if I'd gone immediately on being told
I would have been too late.
I am now resolved to go immediately and at high speed when
information is
received. The baseball bat is now within easy reach on the bookshelf.
Doug.
Yup, typically used for dumb terminals, serial printers, and modems.
Unfortunately I'm still stuck using these things here at work. I've almost
got rid of them all - every time we have a power failure, another one dies.
They're not really bad units, but when they've been powered on for a decade
or more without interruption, the reliability goes downhill and besides that
we're trying to get away from non-IP traffic on the network. I've only seen
these things used with OpenVMS, though I suppose at least DEC Unix might
have software. If I remember right, these things download their code from
the nearest VMS box when they're powered up. Setting REPLY/ENABLE on the
VMS system should let you see it start up. I've really never configured one
>from scratch, just swapped out good units for bad ones, so I'm really not
sure of the whole installation procedure.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Iggy Drougge [mailto:optimus@canit.se]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:06 PM
To: Classic computing
Subject: DECserver 200
At the user group today, I was intrigued by a pretty little DEC box called a
"DECserver 200MC" (or MX?). It's got a very anonymous front panel, whereas
the
back is fitted out with 8 DB25 ports, into which some RS232->MJ11 (or
whatever
that modular DEC serial port is called) converters are plugged. There is
also
an AUI port.
Is it a terminal server of some kind?
--
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, John Foust wrote:
>
> > At 09:33 PM 11/27/00 -0500, Louis Schulman wrote:
> > >Does someone have the software. I have downloaded the two
> > >.hqx files, but they are password protected. Doh! Anyone
> > >know how to crack password protection on an .hqx file?
> >
> > Passwords on BinHex files? I've never heard of that.
> > BinHex is similar to 'uuencode', just a binary to ASCII
> > conversion. How did you attempt to open them?
>
> John, the 'q' in the extension suggests a 'squeezed' file, and
> while I am not aware of a password scheme for squeeze programs,
> that does not prove that there were not some.
>
> Louis, I would take a crack at it with the Carson Wilson program
> CFX and see what it does.
I was able to use "Stuffit Password Remover" to get into the
original un-binhexed file. Unfortunately, it turned out NOT
to be DaynaFile 3.1 as labeled, but was actually SuperVideo
(Radius?).
Luckily I found my original DaynaFile disks. If anyone else
has an orphaned DaynaFile-II, let me know, and I'll spin you
a copy.
-dq
From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>> The open was added around the time of the compaq merger. the sales
and
>> other external peripheria started using OpenVMS to counter the idea
that
>> VMS was a sealed OS, anyone with internals training or a complete knew
>> that VMS was as open as could be had without giving the code away.
>> The idea had to be sold as really closed OSs were well known then
>> (early 90s) as IBM.
>
>Huh? The Open was added around the 6.0/6.1 timeframe. The Compaq
merger
>was during the 7.2eft timeframe. I'd thought the namechange was a
>combination of emphasising it's openess, but largly a reaction to the
fact
>they now had VMS running on both VAX and Alpha.
>
> Zane
No! The Alpha was a year after OpenVMS was started in references.
I was seeingit internally back in '91, the alpha was a bit later. The
OS itself was to change internal and external names much later.
The compaq merger was earlier than 7.2 {time flies when your having fun}.
Allison
Don't let me scare anyone, but this question is actually for _work_.
:-) The mainframe guys asked me if I knew of any utilities for
translating from EBCDIC to ASCII on a DOS or Windows PC, as they have
a user who keeps getting big (12MB) data dumps from another company in
EBCDIC, and they're getting tired up uploading it to the mainframe and
back down just to get the EBCDIC->ASCII translation done. Any
suggestions? Web searching has turned up very little of interest.
Bill Richman
bill_r(a)inetnebr.com
http://incolor.inetnebr.com
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oddities, and the original COSMAC Elf
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From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
>Far be it from me to argue with a Digit :-), my 5.5-2 disk boots up as
;) I started at DEC when REX and MILLRAT were running V3.1 and
got the watch the progression of versions from there through V5.5-4.
>VAX/VMS and my 6.0 disk boots up as OPENVMS/VAX. The 5.x ConDist
>documentation calls it VMS the savesets are VMSxxx and the 6.x ConDist
The open was added around the time of the compaq merger. the sales and
other external peripheria started using OpenVMS to counter the idea that
VMS was a sealed OS, anyone with internals training or a complete knew
that VMS was as open as could be had without giving the code away.
The idea had to be sold as really closed OSs were well known then
(early 90s) as IBM.
>calls it OpenVMS and the savesets are OVMSxxx. However, I don't really
know
>when DEC started pushing VMS as 'OpenVMS' in relationship to what
release
>was shipping.
True, and 7.2 calls the various DEC$whatits still too.
>Frank confirms the 4.7. I'd like to find a 5.6 set though, I looked
through
>the SPD on the Compaq site and was trying to figure out what it added
>relative to 5.5-2.
No idea. I have 5.5-4 one one disk still. The usual release rules were
Even numbers were feature adds 5.2, 5.4 and the odd ones were bug
fixes and small features. By V4 though that was starting to get very
munged.
Allison
To: classic <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, November 26, 2000 10:29 PM
Subject: Vax 4000-60
>I think a Vaxstation 4000-60 is capable of running VMS but I want to
>double check. Can it?
>
Your not serious? ;) VMS is native OS on VAX, that is a VAX.
The correct question should be minimum version for device support?
I believe it was either V5.4 or 5.6, some one can confirm. The hobbiest
version of 7.2 does.
Allison
At the user group today, I was intrigued by a pretty little DEC box called a
"DECserver 200MC" (or MX?). It's got a very anonymous front panel, whereas the
back is fitted out with 8 DB25 ports, into which some RS232->MJ11 (or whatever
that modular DEC serial port is called) converters are plugged. There is also
an AUI port.
Is it a terminal server of some kind?
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6.
Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
