> >I think I still have the disks somewhere.... I just don't have
> >an Apple-II to use to verify their readability.
> >
> >It wasn't bad, I rather enjoyed using it (my last semester in
> >college, Spring '83).
> >
> >-dq
>
> So UCSD PASCAL (P-system) P-code ran on the Apple //? I'm guessing this
> means it'll run on a //e or //gs? If so is there anywhere the software
can
> be downloaded from? Just might be the excuse I need to get that //gs back
> up and running (gulp, I just buried it's SCSI drive).
Among other platforms... (wasn't the Terak a UCSD machine?).
I think you had to have the Integer Basic (?) card for it to work.
I copied the system onto single-sided verbatim floppies that I'd
punched to use as "flippies"... the school wasn't hip to copying
software, at least not in '83.
-dq
From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>
>Out of curiousity, what are the hardware requirements to run it on a
PDP-11?
>
PDP-11 (any), 33kw, FDC RX01, Tube or TTY on a DL line.
Of all the version the PDP-11 version on the 11/03 was fastest
compared to apple or Z80 ports.
Allison
These are still used all of the time in many places (mostly as in interface to scientific lab equipment).
It should not be too difficult to get a compatible replacement, maybe not an identical replacement.
check:
www.nationalinstruments.com
-----Original Message-----
From: emanuel stiebler [SMTP:emu@ecubics.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 10:09 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: tms9914 ieee488 controller
Hi all,
anybody here knows, if there is any replacement for this
texas ieee488 controller, and is still in production ?
Thanks,
emanuel
At 02:55 PM 11/29/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Does no one remember that IBM peddled UCSD P System for the PC?
>An operating system that made PC-DOS look good!
Yeah, but the original release still runs in a DOS window
under WinNT. :-)
- John
On Nov 29, 20:38, Jim Battle wrote:
> At 06:07 PM 11/29/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >...
> >And it really didn't make PC-DOS look good. I've put a screen shot
> >of the UCSD P-system file manager prompt at:
> >http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/~korpela/gif/filer.gif.
> >You may remember what those letters stand for, but I don't.
> ...
>
> For those not wanting to chase the link, it says:
>
> Filer: G, S, N, L, R, C, T, D, Q [1.1]
>
> Don't you remember? This was the security mechanism.
> You had to play a game of hangman and win before you
> could run the compiler. The person above obviously doesn't
> know the key to hangman is the vowels.
Hmm.... my versions show the menu as something like
G(et, S(ave, N(ew, L(dir, R(en, C(hng, T(rans, D(ate, Q(uit
but there are more options on an 80-column screen.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
>Allison replies:
>> PDP-11 (any), 33kw, FDC RX01, Tube or TTY on a DL line.
> ^^^^
>Typo? No more than 28 Kwords, I'd expect? I'm pretty sure I've
>seen it running on an an 11/03, which won't readily support more than
>that. Or did you mean 33 Kbytes?
Nope 32KW, two M8044s plugged in. True only 26/28Kw accessable due to
the IOpage. You know of course thats the case in most any non mapped
PDP-11.
Allison
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:31:09 -0800 (PST) healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes:
> > I used PASCAL (for a short time) when I was in school, that ran
> > under RSTS/E. I don't know if it was the USCD system, or some
> > other thing; I'm almost certain it used pseudo-code, though,
> > as the compiler output was *tiny* compared to a similar compiled
> > BASIC+ program.
> >
> > Anybody know of PASCAL compilers that run under RSTS?
> >
> > Jeff
>
> I'm guessing it was OMSI PASCAL. In fact I think I've got a manual
> for that, but am unfortunatly missing the software.
Hmmm, that doesn't seem to ring any bells. We're talking 1980-81
timeframe. The compiler was invoked from the READY prompt by
typing "PASCAL FILNAM.PAS", and you'd get the runnable output
file; I don't remember if it was in .SAV format or not.
Dang it. I wish I could remember more about the system we had
at the school at that time . . ..
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From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>OK, this brings up two questions. Can it use RX50's (I'm guessing not),
and
RX50 run off the MSCP controller and *may* work, I'm not sure of that.
>is it available for download anywhere? I can manage RX02 (assuming the
>drives work), but would prefer to use RX50 since they're already in both
>PDP-11's I've got at home (RX02 is buried in storage).
If your set on using RX50s then the question is... IS UCSD Psystem MSCP
device aware?
Allison
From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>One of these days I'd really like to play with a UCSD PASCAL system,
largely
>to get a feel of how well it worked.
UCSD P-system was tightly integrated with menues and what amounts the
then
equivelent of an modern IDE. From the main system menu you go fo into
the filer
or editor, from the editor you could compile and run a program. If the
compiler
fails you end up back in the editor (screen oriented) with the cursor at
the first
error. In 1978 that was a truely advanced development environment.
>active with Amiga's around, they'd have a better idea). That tells me
that
>a 486 or lower won't really be able to cut it when it comes to JAVA.
Java will run on any 386 or higher, I've done it though it gets slow.
Allison
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:43:24 -0500 "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
writes:
> From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
> >
> >Out of curiousity, what are the hardware requirements to run it on
> >a PDP-11?
> >
>
>
> PDP-11 (any), 33kw, FDC RX01, Tube or TTY on a DL line.
> Of all the version the PDP-11 version on the 11/03 was fastest
> compared to apple or Z80 ports.
I used PASCAL (for a short time) when I was in school, that ran
under RSTS/E. I don't know if it was the USCD system, or some
other thing; I'm almost certain it used pseudo-code, though,
as the compiler output was *tiny* compared to a similar compiled
BASIC+ program.
Anybody know of PASCAL compilers that run under RSTS?
Jeff
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