Ok,
I'm forwarding this as-is. Hopefully someone has the $$$ and
the will to do something about it.
-dq
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Hello Douglas,
The Multics system that was shut down today at Halifax will likely
be available for purchase from Gov't of Canada "Crown Assets" soon.
I should mention that the configuration is, roughly speaking,
3 x Multics CPU. Also, modifications (by Alan Haggett) had it
running as Y2K compatible. ***SYSTEM WILL BE SOLD WITHOUT DISKS***
(due to security considerations). Disks are supposed to be available
through third party suppliers.
Serious inquiries to purchase this system as a workable system
(capable of booting from tape, etc.) will only be useful for
the next few days, as the current plan is to break up the unit
in about 2 weeks, i.e. about 13Nov2000.
The disposal of the system is being coordinated by Mr. Dave Renshaw.
Please contact him for further information as per:
Dave Renshaw, DND Marlant N6353
HQ Bldg D201, 3rd Floor
P.O. Box 99000 Stn Forces
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
B3K 5X5
Tel: 902-427-0550 ext. 2554
Fax: 902-427-6626
Email: d.renshaw(a)dnd.ca
Thanks,
--
John McLeod, Senior Scientific Programmer, SIM Group
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Defence Research Establishment Atlantic (DREA)
Mail Address... Courier Delivery Address...
P.O. Box 1012 9 Grove Street
Dartmouth, NS Dartmouth, NS
CANADA B2Y 3Z7 CANADA B3A 3C5
E-mail: john.mcleod(a)drea.dnd.ca
Phone : 902-426-3100 ext. 151
Fax : 902-426-9654
Web : www.drea.dnd.ca
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John McLeod wrote:
>
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>
> Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> >
> > ISTR a discussion about the Canadian DND systems,
> > where someone said one of the two had already been
> > shut down some time back, making only one left.
> >
> > John, would they (the powers that be) be willing
> > to consider offers from a bona fide institution
> > intrested in preserving the system? The museum
> > in California has the Dockmaster system, but when
> > I mentioned the passing of this system on the
> > classic computer mailing list, it generated some
> > heat, and we have some curators on that list.
> >
> > If there's simply no chance, let me know...
> >
> > -dq
> >
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> > > > -dq
> > >
In a message dated 10/28/00 8:23:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, leec(a)slip.net
writes:
> I'm also looking for a keyboard and mouse for a SUN Sparcstation I recently
> acquired (thanks Kirk!). I also need a cable to connect a Sony monitor with
> a 5 coax connectors on the back (R-G-B and a Sync for VD and HD). Any hints
> where I should look (other than wierd stuff and $UN). Mouse Systems which
> produced optical mice for SUN workstations seems to no longer be in
> business. THanks for any pointers.
>
> Lee Courtney
>
A business close by sells these.. According to their web site, a type 4 unix
kb, mouse and pad will go for $20 plus shipping (from NJ). I called and
asked if they have any left for that price and the guy said "As many as you
want".
Their web site is http://www.compsyscon.com
Phone - 908 689-5500
Have fun, and if anyone ever wsould be interested in slipping a Sparc my way,
just let me know!
-Linc Fessenden
Could someone give me the quick walk through on what it takes to create an
account in VMS 7.2? I used to know this, but it's been a long time.
The steps I remember are:
1. use authorize to add an identifier for the person.
2. use authorize to add the person.
3. create their directory.
4. use authorize to set their password and clear the disuser flag.
5. log in on squeeky clean new account.
The problem is, I have an account on my vaxstation, but either I never
managed to get it to work or I forgot thet password. The security
alerts that come up in audit server tell me my password is bad, even
when I'm typing in what I just used authorize mod jim/password=<whatever>
to set.
Thanks.
And I have to say ELM looks somehow more *right* on a vt220 amber monitor than it does in a window. :)
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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First of all I'd just like to say a big hello to all the group members. Yes,
I did make it through boot camp, & now I'm up in Groton for sub school.
Anyway, I was wondering if anybody had a working Apple Newton 2100 (or
upgraded 2000) with all of the stuff it came with (dock station, CD, stylus,
manuals, etc.) that they would be willing to let go for cheap. Can you help
me?
Also, if the Newton has the keyboard, I don't want it, but if it has a carry
case, I'll take it.
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Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
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> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:39:51 -0400
> From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com>
> Subject: RE: classiccmp-digest V1 #407
Hello, Douglas:
> A guy named Roger Roach who is or was at MIT
> supposedly has magtapes containing the CTSS
> d ocumentation. If he does still have them,
> I doubt he would release them from his possession,
> and I don't think he personally has the time
> to try to recover the contents.
:-(
> He might permit a researcher access to the
> tapes at a facility local to MIT or wherever
> he now happens to be.
Maybe in my next vacations. :->
No, seriously, maybe a goal that this tapes could be
translated to Pc Format like Paul Pierce made with
IBSYS and PR150, two OS's for the 709 (if I remember
good...).
> I do not know Roger; I got this information
> from a third party.
Well, if would be possible to contact via this
third party...
> Most of Multics is written in PL/I; unfortunately,
> PL/I compilers are hard to come by.
I have two PC PL/1 compilers and some other from
CP/M and know somwthing of the language. I am
waiting one book from IBM that I suppose will
complete my stuff to begin.
> I, too, have had Java recommended to me as a language
> for implementing emulators. I have concerns about its
> performance.
I needed to work with Java from two months from now to
develop one financial application to my job. It offers
all what I need to develop this emulators but specially
to simulate a time-sharing system.
Teorically all the papers about Multics that have now
maybe sufficient to simulate something like the
pagination mechanism. and the virtual memory. The
specifications about the first Multics let me do
a virtual disk from 4 Millions of words of 36 bits.
There is an study about the modules that compounds
the kernel and the recommendations to reduce its size.
I have some source code in PL/1 of some Multics utilities
and a list of 314 commands like appears in
http://www.multicians.org/multics-commands.html ...
I only needs the messages of the commands to simulate them
but logically I should agree the source code :-) And, in
other way, the mechanism of console or terminal session
that Multics used. That's all for now. I prefers at this
instance to made an hipotetical machine that runs the
System before than a real General Electric 635/645. Even
I'm not interested by now in the security mechanism that
were developed later.
Well, that's all for now. Thanks for your kindly answer,
Douglas. Greetings from Spain.
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Sergio Pedraja
Administracion de Sistemas
Division de Tecnologia
Caja Cantabria
Spain
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mailto: spedraja(a)mail.ono.es, spedraja(a)casyc.es
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Here's the DEBNT installation from VAX 8200/8300 Installation
Guide. I really remembered that I had the real docs for DEBNT but
I can't find them at the moment, anyway here goes:
4.8 DEBNT INSTALLATION
1. Remove processor cabinet front and rear doors
2. From the rear of the processor cabinet, release the BA32 box
track lock (Figure 2.14).
3. Slide the BA32 box out of the cabinet.
4. Remove the BA32 box top cover.
5. Insert the T1034 module in the VAXBI cardcage.
6. Rotate the BA32 box up and remove the bottom cover.
7. Install the transition header on the backplane if the slot
holding the T1034 module.
8. From the rear of the BA32 box, open the appropriate cable restraint
and feed the transition end of the DEBNT cable into the box. Pull
enough of the cable into the box to feed the cable under and through
the rear brace and up to the backplane of the slot that holds the
T1034 module.
9. Connect the DEBNT cable to zone E (left) of the transition header on
the backplane of the slot that holds the T1034 module.
10. Connect the 12V power cable from the power supply distribution board
to the pigtail connector on the DEBNT cable.
11. Close the cable restraint at the rear of the BA32 box.
NOTE
Route the DEBNT cables separately from the power cables insider the
processor cabinet.
12. Replace the BA32 box bottom cover.
13. Rotate the BA32 box down.
14. Connect the DEBNT cables to the distribution panel.
15. Replace the BA32 box top cover.
16. Power up the system. The DEBNT self-test runs upon power up.
Check that the yellow LED on the T1034 module lights.
If the yellow LED does not light, refer to the DEBNT Ethernet
Tape Controller Technical Manual.
17. Refer to the DEBNT Ethernet Tape Controller Technical Manual for
the complete acceptance procedure.
18. Slide the BA32 box into the processor cabinet.
19. Replace the processor cabinet front and rear doors.
--
Jarkko Teppo
jate(a)uwasa.fi
What is the least amount of memory that CP/M 1.3 will run in?
--
Power Computing PowerCurve, 400mhz G3, Mac OS 9.0.4
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
I've got a VAX 6000-410 (complete with everything BUT disk controller and
HDs; this has 2 x 32mb RAM cards and CPU, etc, but was used as a
cluster node) that I picked up a few months ago intending to ressurect
it and play with it occasionally, but a couple of things have stopped me
>from doing that:
1. Hot as hell in the garage in summer in Texas.
2. Cant find the plans to convert from 115V 3phase to 220/240V single
3. No available outlet for it when I *do* find the plans to convert
it. (adding another one turned out to be prohibitively expensive).
4. No time!!!!
Anyway, if anybody on this list within driving distance of Austin, TX would
like a free (well, something in exchange would be nice, smaller VAXen, ham
radio equipment, etc but if nothing lse, come get it and its yours) VAX 6000
system, let me know. You'll need at least a small pickup truck and at least
two people to load it into said truck; its fairly heavy. I'd help, but I'm
still under doctors orders to not lift anything major for another few weeks
(pulled ligaments in my wrists while rackmounting a Sun E450 @ work a couple
weeks ago).
Pictures of the VAX (along with serial #s, card inventory, etc) are up at
http://www.decvax.org/vax6000.
I'm not gonna junk the machine, but someone could be getting more use out
of it right now than I can... so until it finds a better home, its in
the garage.
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
> I have several boxes of these diskettes, many more than I'll ever need.
>
> All are new, in original boxes.
>
> If you need any then please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
Kevin, I'd be interested in some of those. Where about are you located?
g.
Seeing the mention of the Shugart QD floppy drive brought to
mind an Altos 586T that I used to have that used this drive, along
with a Wangtek 60MB streaming tape drive. This was an 8086 based
server released around 1983 that ran XENIX and used a number of Z80's
to handle the I/O on both the serial ports and disk subsystem. I no
longer have the machine itself as it was horribly corroded by the
time I got it, though I do have a replacement Wangtek tape drive and
a copy of the XENIX floppy disks for it, as well as two 3M DC300XL/P
data cartridges that supposedly contain a full system backup. Short
of finding another 586T, is there any way of at least checking the
data integrity of these tapes?
thanks and take care
Jeff
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Power Computing PowerCurve, 400mhz G3, Mac OS 9.0.4
Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems:
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
