At 04:29 PM 10/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I'd like to network the machine via TCP/IP. The hobbyist cd is supposed
>to contain the TCP/IP product, but I must confess I have no idea even how
>to see the contents of the cd. I can mount it and install products like
>Motif IF I know what the product package's NAME is.....
Its damn confusing isn't it? Unfortunately the Montegar CD-ROM is a mess
when it comes to kits, some have kits some don't, very sad. Here are some
clues:
You can get a directory of the CD by mounting it and typing:
$ DIR DKAxxx:[000000]
(note that is six zeros)
You can leave off the zeros when you find a directory, ie :
$DIR DKAxxx:[TCPIP_VAX050]
If you find a directory full of savesets (they will be named "foo.A foo.B
foo.C etc") then you can install them with:
$ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL foo [directory spec where the save sets are]
So for TCPIP it is
$ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL TCPIP_VAX050 DKA400:[TCPIP_VAX050.KIT]
Note that KIT is a subdirectory of TCPIP_VAX050 and you need your CD-ROM's
target not mine :-)
If on the otherhand you find a file that ends with the PCSI extension, then
that is designed to be installed by the PCSI system. You do that using:
$ product install NAME /SRC=[directory]
Note if you don't know what its name should be (and believe me it can be
tough to guess some times) then just type:
$ product install /src=[directory]
And when it asks for a name type * there will be only one choice and it
will be chosen for you.
> Basicly I have navigation troubles.
Yes, there are those "logical" names versus the "real" name of the drives.
Some clues there are :
[000000] is the root directory
[foo] is a file FOO.DIR in the root directory
[foo.bar] is the file BAR.DIR in the FOO directory
Typing
$ SET DEFAULT [directory spec]
Is like doing a "CD to directory"
and typing
$ SET DEFAULT [-]
Is like typing "CD .."
--Chuck
Hope to have the event here in the Twicities after the snow leaves ext
spring (2001). Still looking for more volunteers to help with the work.
Also talking with some companies about being cash sponsors for the event
along with prizes to give away. That's about all I want to give out
right now until I have things locked down, but more to come.
John Keys
From: Richard Erlacher <richard(a)idcomm.com>
>That would explain why it wasn't listed among the MCS-48 parts . . . It
>should be "in there" someplace, though.
It was part of the NSC SC/MP product line and as such oddball.
The 8154 with a 74374 otherwise worked fine with the 8748
and offered features that only 8255 and 6810 woud supply
in a single 40 pin package.
Allison
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: ajp166 <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 2:25 PM
>Subject: Re: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>
>
>> No,
>>
>> They are incompatable with several mods and huge pinout difference.
>> Also the 8155/56 are 8085 muxed bus parts and the 8154 was
>> National microbus (not muxed).
>>
>> Allison
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Erlacher <richard(a)idcomm.com>
>> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> Date: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>>
>>
>> >I'll look later for the INS8154, but the Intel 8155 and 8156 were
both
>> RAMs
>> >with 16 bits of I/O controllable on a bitwise basis like the bits in
a
>> 6821
>> >. . . Could one of those work?
>> >
>> >Dick
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Sipke de Wal <sipke(a)wxs.nl>
>> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 12:33 PM
>> >Subject: Re: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>> >
>> >
>> >> This is a National Semiconductor I/O-chip with internal RAM.
>> >> I don't think you will find easy replacements because this was
>> >> a very NS-only chip with no second sourcing.
>> >>
>> >> It was used in Science of Cambrigde's (Clive Sinclair) MK 14
>> >>
>> >> Sipke de Wal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: abrar wadera <abrarwadera(a)hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> >> Cc: <abrar.wadera(a)del2.siemens.co.in>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:46 PM
>> >> Subject: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Sirs
>> >> > We have many cytospins which are centrifuges esed in cytology
>> >departments
>> >> > and the peripherals chips used are INS8154N, we are not able to
find
>> any
>> >of
>> >> > them from any source. Can you suggest any or some equivalents.
>> >> >
>> >> > With Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Abrar
>> >> >
>>
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On October 28, Mike Kenzie wrote:
> I stopped by the local recyclers today and they had an AT&T
> 7300 for $40
> Does anyone here know anything about this machine?
Eric Smith seems to have summed it up pretty well. I'll just add my
$0.02...I've had a couple of them in my day, including one when they
were almost new back in...oh, I think it was 1985. If you don't mind
dropping the $40, I'd say go grab it. I find 7300s (and 3b1s) to be
delightful little machines. With one of the nicest feeling keyboards
I've ever used, too.
-Dave McGuire
No,
They are incompatable with several mods and huge pinout difference.
Also the 8155/56 are 8085 muxed bus parts and the 8154 was
National microbus (not muxed).
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher <richard(a)idcomm.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, October 28, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>I'll look later for the INS8154, but the Intel 8155 and 8156 were both
RAMs
>with 16 bits of I/O controllable on a bitwise basis like the bits in a
6821
>. . . Could one of those work?
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Sipke de Wal <sipke(a)wxs.nl>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 12:33 PM
>Subject: Re: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>
>
>> This is a National Semiconductor I/O-chip with internal RAM.
>> I don't think you will find easy replacements because this was
>> a very NS-only chip with no second sourcing.
>>
>> It was used in Science of Cambrigde's (Clive Sinclair) MK 14
>>
>> Sipke de Wal
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: abrar wadera <abrarwadera(a)hotmail.com>
>> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>> Cc: <abrar.wadera(a)del2.siemens.co.in>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:46 PM
>> Subject: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>>
>>
>> > Dear Sirs
>> > We have many cytospins which are centrifuges esed in cytology
>departments
>> > and the peripherals chips used are INS8154N, we are not able to find
any
>of
>> > them from any source. Can you suggest any or some equivalents.
>> >
>> > With Regards
>> >
>> > Abrar
>> >
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I've not yet found a board-resident monitor for the Intel iSBC 8024 board. I've got a number of these on hand and have used sadly inadequate resources that worked (barely) for what I've been doing with them, but would like to make it worthwhile writing a set of test scripts for my notebook funcitoning as a terminal attached to the iSBC 8024.
This board is a Multibus-I type with an 8085, 8251, 8253, 8259, and a pair of 8255's. Intel shipped a monitor prom which I turned over to a customer many years ago, thinking I'd never need it again ... <sigh> ... I guess you never know.
I suppose I could always resort to writing my own, but then I'd be unable to used someone else's doc's, and I'd hate to have to reinvent the wheel just for the half-dozen or so of these boards I have left.
Dick
More PDP-11 stuff available in the UK... Please respond directly to
the gentleman below instead of me...
bill
----- Forwarded message from Dominic <dominic(a)altoona.fsnet.co.uk> -----
From: "Dominic" <dominic(a)altoona.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org>
Subject: PDP11 Computers
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:02:54 +0100
Hi !
I recently rescued alot of computer stuff from a breaker here in the UK. Everything that was there I took away. The load has some PDP11 bits:
1 x PDP11/73 Model 1730A-B3 SER No. AY00934
1 x PDP11 Model 11A23-R SER No. AY07507
Both are 120/240 Volts AC in on power supply, both units are complete except they are both missing the plastic cases. They were removed ready for the units to be pulled apart, Luckly I got there when I did, BUT some others were not so lucky and were already in bits. I managed to collect:
PCB BOARDS: M7555 x2
M8043 x2
M7954 x1
M8049 x1
Also a "Realtime Clock" card ???!
There are also large boards:
M8067 x4
M8189 x2
Misc Bits:
1 x Rx50 -AA revc Dual 5 1/4" Floppy drive
3 x AA12B1 ASTEC power supply units, Digital code H7864A
1 x Digital VDU inc keyboard type VT320
2 x RS232 cables to connect VDU to 'Console' skt on computers.
Both the PDP computers work, the 11/73 boots up ok on its RD52A Hard Drive, runs through a mass of loading commands then says 'Have a good afternoon'! rebooting it gets it to request a login and password. I have not managed to get in despite several attempts.
The other goes through its startup routine, then asks for a boot disk. I returned to the breaker and tried to find some but was told all disks had been thrown away - typical!
The unit has a hard drive but its labelled 'Cleared by Digital' so there is probably nothing on it anyway.
It's so sad when gear goes for scrap, even working stuff - such a waste. I am based in the UK in Norfolk near LOWESTOFT on the EAST COAST. I don't know where you are but if anybody wants these items they can have them, no money required!
Happy Christmas!
Dominic.
----- End forwarded message -----
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
The INS8154 is a programable parallel IO device and 128 byte ram.
There are no substutes I know of, as it was single sourced from
National Semi.
the alternate would be to try and find new unused old stack or
make a substitute using TTL and ram devices that are avaiable.
I know the device though, I have two I bought for use 20 years ago.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: abrar wadera <abrarwadera(a)hotmail.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Cc: abrar.wadera(a)del2.siemens.co.in <abrar.wadera(a)del2.siemens.co.in>
Date: Saturday, October 28, 2000 12:14 PM
Subject: INS8154 used in Cytospin
>Dear Sirs
>We have many cytospins which are centrifuges esed in cytology
departments
>and the peripherals chips used are INS8154N, we are not able to find any
of
>them from any source. Can you suggest any or some equivalents.
>
>With Regards
>
>Abrar
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In a message dated 10/27/00 5:46:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes:
> Hey, I have one of those. It's the same shape and size as a HP 9816.
> It's a great little CPM machine. Don M. has a lot of software for it and I
> have some of the SW. Somebody has got to save this one!
Joe;
You are thinking of the 120, that is the one that looks like the HP 9816.
The 125 looks like a terminal on a square goose neck. The 125 is a great CPM
computer. However it uses it's own keyboard which I don't think goes with
anything else. I hope the keyboard is there. I also think it uses drives with
the large HP connector that looks like a centronics. I am not sure if it has
HPIB. I think it came before HP standardized on HPIB.
I used to have one many years ago.
Paxton
From: Paul E.Bosboom <pe.bosboom(a)hccnet.nl>
It would help us greatly to include basic idea of where "here" is.
>I just read your question about looking for software , spec CDOS, for
the
>cosmac. Well I own a cosmac since 1983
>but it's standing in the corner for a long time now. I have to gear up
the
>poor thing and see if I can make a copy of the old
>floppy's. There are also a set of different cosmac cards and the cosmac
ICE
>in a separate suitcase even all documentation and schematics are
complete as
>far as I know. If I can help or If anyone wants to buy the whole
system.
>Send me a proposal.
>
>Paul: pe.bosboom(a)hccnet.nl
>
>
