test-drb October 2000

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by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

Jim wrote: >Just spoke with the reporter from NPR, and the segment with the interviews >that were done at VCF IV will be running on tomorrow (Sunday) mornings >edition of Morning Edition. Just heard it this morning (it happened about an hour and 28 minutes into the program). It seemed pretty well done, and a reasonably wide variety of "classics" were mentioned by some of the regulars to this list. My only complaint is that I didn't hear any references to this mailing list or any relevant "classic computing" web sites. If anyone has any loud complaints, I work about two blocks over (and a few hundred feet down) from NPR's Washington DC offices and I may be able to volunteer to go there and protest over my lunch hour :-). Tim.

25 years, 1 month

NatSemi 32000

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 15:07, Hans Franke wrote: > I may be coorected, but AFAIR are the 16032 and 32032 the very > same CPUs - NS just changed at one point the family name 16xxx > to 32xxx to reflect the 32 Bit hype. Bussize was always noted > by the last two digits, while the middle digit served as family. > 16008/32008 8-Bit external Data > 16016/32016 16-Bit external Data > 16032/32032 32-Bit external Data Are you sure about that, Hans? When Acorn first talked about their NatSemi second processor, they described it as a 16032; by the time it was released, it was a 32016 and they claimed this was the same device previously called a 16032. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 1 month

Looking for MicroVAX/VAXstation 2000 roms, version 2.3

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in the process of refurbing some uVAX2000s and finally ran down the > patches for the SCSI boot ROMs and VMS device drivers. Unfortunately for > me, my newest uVAX has version 2.2 ROMs and the patches are for 2.3. Can > anyone help me locate newer ROM images? I have plenty of blanks and a > programmer, so that's the easy part. Instead of ROM images, how about the ROM's themselves. I have one uVAX2000 that I tore down to remove the disk to send to a fellow list member. Looking at the ROM's on it: DEC87 LM8737 on all of them the unique numbers on each ROM are: 033E7 034E7 035E7 036E7 I never test fired this one, so no info other than above. I also have five VAXstation 2000's. They have all been test fired and at the time they spewed: KN410-B V2.3 You want I should loan you a set of ROM's and throw them in the box with the DS200/MC manual when you get around to sending me a Priority Mail stamp. How's that for a subtle reminder? I might also remind you that you recently dug a VS2000 out of the barn and gave it to a friend. Are you refurbishing his also, or might you have just given away the very thing you seek? This may be another indication of what Sellam so aptly named "Mental DECay". ;-) Mike

25 years, 1 month

Tubes and Hoses

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

Tony didst scribe: >One pun that may not have crossed the Pond is that it was called the >'Tube' not only because it was a thing for shifting data from one machine >to the other (like a tube would carry a fluid), but also because the Tube >is a slang name for the London Underground (railway) (what you'd call the >Subway) and is thus an alternative to travelling by bus... Heh - reminds me as to why the bus interconnect in the Alpha is called a 'hose'.....in the labs they had everything connected together with thick green cables which someone said looked like garden hoses..... -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (me) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The online computer museum) 0/0

25 years, 1 month

RF71 disk drives and 2 BA123 microVax II's in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Hi all I have 6 RF71 disk drives, a TK25 and 2 BA123 microVax II's in Kansas City that I need to get rid of . Any offers? Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 1 month

Looking for MicroVAX/VAXstation 2000 roms, version 2.3

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I am in the process of refurbing some uVAX2000s and finally ran down the patches for the SCSI boot ROMs and VMS device drivers. Unfortunately for me, my newest uVAX has version 2.2 ROMs and the patches are for 2.3. Can anyone help me locate newer ROM images? I have plenty of blanks and a programmer, so that's the easy part. TIA, -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/

25 years, 1 month

NatSemi 32000 (Was: RE: Drop the Microsoft & OS Discussion!)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

There was a project board that was featured in the Micro Cornucopia around 1984, or so. It was an ISA co-processor board, that ran UNIX; it used the PC as an IO server. It was pretty slick. I really wanted one, but sure couldn't afford it. One of these actually showed up on e-bay a couple of years back; naturally I was outbid. There was another project, the PC32 which was a 32000 based SBC. Also pretty slick; they run NetBSD. These are pretty rare as well. All of the 32000's had an 'orthogonal' instruction set; it was also the same IS for 8,16,and 32 bit parts. I have the users manual around here someplace . . . Jeff On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:21:31 -0400 Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> writes: > > I vote to drop-kick this weeks discussion/useless rant > > on Windows and other OS's and other pokes to list members. > > Get back to you classic computers, VAXen, boxen, > > whatever-you-have-en, which this list is meant for! > > > > Anyone with me on this? > > I've heard little discussion (since I joined earlier this year) > about the National Semiconductor 32000 processor line. IIRC, > some (but not all) of the chips in this family were true > 3-address machines. > > Anyone familiar with them? Do any significant assembly > language programming on one? > > -dq ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 1 month

Zilog S8000 available in the UK

by pgj＠ghrs.co.uk

I had this machine offered to me, but it is too far for me to collect it if anyone else in the UK wants it. Please contact Mike directly. BTW what, precisely, is it - does anyone on the list know of them. In his original message to me he said that it was big and that it had been used at a local college to teach Unix to students. -- Regards Pete > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike W [mailto:mike@corn2.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 03 October 2000 10:57 > To: Peter Joules > Subject: Re: You want old computer stuff? > > > no probs abt the delay in replying Pete, feel free to pass on the > details to whoever you wish. > > I now have it here, its a Zilog S8000/32 Model 130, Ser no. > 01871336, sold by Allied Business Systems of Portslade, Sussex. > > It appears to be functional but as yet I hav'nt connected a terminal > to it so I can't be certain of this. > > If you or any of your fellow devotees would like to have it > then I'd be > only too happy to store it until it can be collected. > Catch you later.. Mike W, Redruth, Cornwall > >

25 years, 1 month

Computer That Ate Hitler's Brain

by vcf＠siconic.com

RE: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,39198,00.html Michelle, The silly thing about the Colossus II vs. ENIAC debate on which one was first is that they were both beat a few years earlier by Konrad Zuse, a German inventor working alone during WWII. Please check here for references: http://irb.cs.tu-berlin.de/~zuse/Konrad_Zuse/ http://hjs.geol.uib.no/zuse/zusez1z3.htm http://www.epemag.com/zuse/ All three are excellent resources on Zuse's amazing work. I hope you will print a follow-up to your October 3rd article that truly sets the records straight, because this is something that needs to be known for such an important topic. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 1 month

Filtering posts

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I'm still not sure if my posts are getting through, but I'm getting a load in my inbox. How do others here filter the messages from the list without a [Classiccmp] tag?

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