In a message dated 09/25/1999 2:53:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com writes:
Tony Duell wrote:
> >Before that, most micros used off-the-shelf ICs. Although some of these
> >chips are getting rather hard to find now -- some disk controllers
> >(WD1771, Intel 8271, etc) are _very_ difficult to find new.
>
CLASSICCMP(a)trailing-edge.com replied:
> Not all are that difficult - BG Micro ( http://www.bgmicro.com/ ), for
> example, has a fairly decent selection of WD floppy controller chips.
This looks like a pretty good source. However, they don't list the WD1770
disk controller IC -- anyone know where these might be available?
TIA,
Glen Goodwin
0/0
Picking a standard lock isn't that difficult, especially with the right
tools.
I've never tried an ACE or "round" type lock, but I was always under the
impression that those were virtually impossible to pick, even for a pro?!?
Jay West
-----Original Message-----
From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 8:35 AM
Subject: Picking tubular locks
>At 07:14 PM 9/25/99 +0100, Tony Duell wrote:
>>
>>What sort of lock is it? Most locks can be picked, although the worst
>>common type is the 'Ace' tubular lock, which I guess this is likely to
>>be.
>
>Argh, now there's a useful thread topic. I've got a few systems in
>the basement that need picking, and I've put them aside until I know how.
>Any tips? I seem to remember some hacker text file on the topic.
>
>- John
>
>
>At 07:14 PM 9/25/99 +0100, Tony Duell wrote:
>>
>>What sort of lock is it? Most locks can be picked, although the worst
>>common type is the 'Ace' tubular lock, which I guess this is likely to
>>be.
>Argh, now there's a useful thread topic. I've got a few systems in
>the basement that need picking, and I've put them aside until I know how.
>Any tips? I seem to remember some hacker text file on the topic.
It's probably simpler to buy the correct key. All DEC systems with
tubular locks that I've met use a XX2247 key, and all the DG systems
use identical keys too (but I don't have my DG key on my keychain at this
moment so I can't give you the pattern #.)
The later "plastic key" DEC locks can be turned with just about anything -
they aren't really locks at all.
And replacing a tubular lock of unkown code with a tubular lock with
known code is fairly simple.
You only have to replace the cylinder (making sure that the new cylinder
you get will accept the cam that the old cylinder used to activate the
actual switches).
Tim.
>Now the VT61 and VT62 were slick.
I have a couple of VT62s...
There was even a version of KED for the VT62...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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I have a Panasonic Sr Partner portable computer that I just picked up if
anyone wants one. I haven't tested it but I did plug it in and turn it on
and it does come up asking for a boot disk. I don't have any software or
docs for it so I'm selling it as is. All the fold up covers and legs are
there and are intact. It even still has the original power cord in it's
cubby hole in the back. It also has a printer built into the top of it.
Also FWIW the back is marked "US Sailboard Team". I'll take $35 plus
shipping from 32765 for it. E-mail me directly if you're interested.
Joe
>Was it the hardware boys or was it the marketing types who said,
>"Don't put that in. It will steal sales from the higher commission
>and higher priced xxx machine."
I'm sure it was a marketing issue.
>I can't believe hardware guys were responsible for single sided RX180
>drives and the really lousy RX50's.
Hindsight is something, isn't it... Not that I know any better, but
what else was there *at the time the design was made*?
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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In a message dated 9/25/99 1:17:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
bpechter(a)mail.monmouth.com writes:
> The last thing for Sun3's was Solaris 1.1.1 (SunOS 4.1.1).
> There never was a Solaris 2.x for any Sun3 released.
> Bill
>
Solaris 1.1.1 was SunOS 4.1.3_U1
SunOS 4.1.1_U1 is the last OS for the Sun 3's. SunOS 4.1.1 has
no equivalent Solaris number.
Kelly
Hello -
I am a relatively new collector and new to the list, so this may be a
naive question - please excuse. I would like to get my hands on
either/or/and a PDP-8/?, PDP-11/?. Where does one look - keep an eye on?
Can you point me to places to watch or even places that list places to
watch? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
--
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<I am a relatively new collector and new to the list, so this may be a
<naive question - please excuse. I would like to get my hands on
<either/or/and a PDP-8/?, PDP-11/?. Where does one look - keep an eye on?
Ok,
For smaller systems the PDP-11 Q-bus based ones are resonable. They are
easy to deal with power wise and space wise. Most of the PDP-11 Unibus
systems tend to be multiple 4-6ft racks for reasonably operable systems.
Smallest PDP-11 systems are the MicroPDP-11s <one deskside box> and the
largest <PDP-11/70> will easily be 3-5 72"tall racks plus disk drives the
size of washing machines and require special power(220V 3phase). This
line is very varied! Moving the big ones is a non trivial task.
In the common but non bussed PDP-11s there are the PRO350 , PRO380
and PDT-11/series. While some argue they are not "real PDP-11s"
they are certaily the same instuction set and related members worthy of
collection. Size PCish, no special power. You should be able to find
them free to inexpensive.
PDP-8 series, the 8e/f/m are the easiest to find and work with. A full
system can be one box (11Hx21Wx28D) is you use a PC to simulate, or better
yet obtain, a teletype so paper tape software can be run. Systems with
disks will need at least a small rack in the 30-72" height. Some of the
older 8I, 8(no designator) can easily be two to four racks and tax the
power budget of standard house wiring and possible the floor <weight!>.
There are PDP-8 based systems that are quite small and interesting in the
own right. DECmate I/II/III series are aimed at word processing
but do use a common cpu (cmos chip that is PDP-8 instructions set). They
will run a variation of OS8 <os/78 or os/278). These are easy to find,
common and should be very inexpensize to free. Size, desktop PCish.
I would suggest researching what you want and what you can store (and power)
first so you know what your looking for and at. There are a lot of web
sites with pictures and descriptions. You're referenceing a lot of
postential machines and narrowoing what you might like is not a bad idea.
Allison
