I just picked one of these up and have been able to find precious
little info on it. Mainly, it doesn't have a keyboard, can anyone help
me out (either with a keyboard, how to rig one up, what other
keyboards may work, etc). Any other info would be great.
TIA
George
I have a call into the contact person regarding the MassPar system.
-- Tony
> ----------
> From: William Donzelli[SMTP:aw288@osfn.org]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 4:21 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Last call on MassPar, HP3000, etc.
>
> > A couple of people have talked to me about the MassPar and HP3000, but
> so
> > far nobody has taken any steps to acquire them. If they last another 10
> > days "intact" I will be surprized. Both are located in the SoCal area,
> and
> > both could be removed with a small truck (with a lift gate) and a couple
> > hundred (or so) bucks. The HP though has a good twenty 18" cube boxes of
> > manuals which will be a load in themselves.
>
> Is there any chance someone could save at least some of the MassPas
> boards?
>
> William Donzelli
> aw288(a)osfn.org
>
At 09:25 AM 7/12/99 -0700, Aaron wrote:
>
>
>
>I'm not *totally* against cannibalizing machines for donor parts, but in
>this case...
>
>I guess it depends how much weight you give to the rarity factor when you
>calculate the value/collectability of old machines, but Cadnetix and older
>Daisy CAD stations are virtually extinct. I've spent about two years
>trying, unsuccessfully, to find *any* other information about the one I
>have. I finally tracked down one of the original engineers, a Mr. Wolfgang
>Moritz, who was trying (again unsuccessfully) to put me in touch with some
>of the people involved in the design of the system I own. I consider the
>system I have, non-operational and all, to be the most interesting system
>I own simply for the fact that it is the only one I've ever seen or even
>heard about!
>
>As someone just pointed out, these machines were really the pinacle of CAD
>technology at the time of their release. Within the paperwork I got with
>mine are several invoices for the original lease; the system cost tens of
>thousands of dollars in the mid 80's. I'm not sure if you could get it to
>do anything without a monitor/kbd/etc, but I think it's worth a few
>dollars and the trouble to haul it home simply for the history and rarity
>of the machine.
>
>Just my .02,
>
>Aaron
Aaron,
In an ideal world you'd be completely right about not scrapping old
machines but it's simply not practical to rescue every odd machine out
there. I see HUNDREDS of machine being scrapped every week and a fair
number of them are unique. It's impossible to save any significant number
of them. For example, just at that one place on that one day I found the
Daisy, three HP 7906 drives, a HP 9830, a HP 9866 and a pile of Hetra
machines, a complete Sun 4/260 and two stacks of smaller Sun computers. We
got the stacks of Suns and we're trying to get the 260 and HPs. At least
if they have to go it's better that their parts be saved to repair the ones
that are left instead of being sent to the land fill.
Joe
>
>
--- Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com> wrote:
>
> This weekend, I scored a couple of boards in the Qbus space...
> o An ABLE corp QNIverter
> I think RM03s are supported by the KS10, and I *think* I have
> an RM03-look-similar somewhere in my apartment (warehouse).
> If this is true (and if I can find the controller), I might just
> be able to get a less-power-hungry -10 system going in the
> near future.
Since you seem to have gotten the answer to the Qniverter question, let me
mention that if you are looking for _real_ RM03's, I have access to a couple
of them in Dayton, Ohio. I grabbed the 15Mb 11/750 that was once attached
to them, but I haven't gone on a last scrounging run (my friend's trailer is
still under repair). (There's also a short rack with Fuji Eagles and an SI9900
and taller rack with a TS11).
If anyone really needs one or two RM03's, I am fairly sure I can still get
them. If I go get them for myself, I'm likely to part them out.
-ethan
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This relates to Ron Kneusel's auction.
Ron, I couldn't reply to you -- your rkneusel(a)mcw.edu address didn't work.
Does the Apple version of muMath require the native Apple DOS or is it a CP/M
program?
Do you have a list of the Kaypro original software and the manuals? (It
would probably be too much work to list the unoriginal software you're also
selling.)
Thanks,
-- Derek
Hi; this is not strictly covered by the charter of the list, but someone
on it mentioned running across them with some frequency, or at least once.
As it turns out the 850 I paid a fair amount of money for with the
intention of actually using it is a "pre--General-Announcement"
unit---essentially a hardware prototype. This isn't that big of a deal,
but there are some unresolved hardware issues with respect to AIX support
which make the laptop difficult to work with.
Can I ask the person who saw these units at auction to contact me
off-list, please, with regard to acquiring another 850?
ok
r.
Looking to clear some shelf space and don't like ebay so in classic
fashion I'm running my own. Take a look. Highlights include:
TI-99/4 (not 4A!)
TS-2068
TS-1000
Kaypro 10
Kaypro 4
Kaypro 2
Kaypro II
TRS-80 Coco 1
TRS-80 pocket computer PC-2
Coleco ADAM
SWTPc S/09 System
all with various accessories and manuals. Also software and books,
including original muMATH/muSIMP for the Apple II.
http://net-24-42.dhcp.mcw.edu/auction/auction.html
is the URL.
Ron Kneusel
rkneusel(a)mcw.edu
Aaron,
At 09:13 AM 7/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Joe wrote:
>
>> >As far as the cables, could they be 50-pin scsi cables?
>>
>> They might be but I *thought* they were larger. They are shielded so
>> maybe they just looked that way. They're LONG and seem to be made to go to
>> something outside of the cabinet.
>
>Aha...female edge connectors? That would make sense if the systems are
>similar; my Cadnetix system has long, shielded, external cables for a
>Pertec-interface tape drive.
I think they were card edge connectors but I didn't pay attention to them.
>
>> Mine has an
>> >Adaptec scsi card and two enormous HD's in it (I think 10 meg apiece).
>>
>> It has a large card mounted next to the hard drive. The card looks like
>> it converts SCSI to MFM for the hard drive and an interface for the 8"
>> floppy drive. There is a FH 5 1/4" hard drive in it that appears to have a
>> MFM interface. No idea what size drive it is.
>
>Hmmm. I forget, where are you located? From the dimensions you described,
>and from my experience with my Cadnetix unit (similar size), I'd guess the
>weight of the cabinet to be between 75 and 100 lbs (i.e. cost-prohibitive
>to ship). Otherwise, I'd be really interested to see how close the systems
>were before the companies merged...
I'm in Orlando Florida. You'd probably have to ship it by truck. I
don't think it would cost too much. I think you're right about the weight.
>
>As far as peripherals, I can only tell you how my system is set up: the
>monitor has a long ribbon cable that connects to the rear of the cpu
>cabinet. The keyboard has a modular plug which connects to the monitor,
>and the mouse-systems mouse (identical to Sun3) plugs into the keyboard.
>With mine, I also got a couple of hundred feet of thick-coax ethernet
>cable and a Sperry 286 workstation with a high-end graphics card, optical
>mouse, and 20meg HD. Someday maybe I'll have the time and energy to get it
>working again, hopefully before the components turn to dust...
Hmmm, I didn't see the peripherals but if you you wnat them and can give
me a good description then I may be able to find them.
Joe
>
>Aaron
>
>
>Some questions for TK50 folks...
> 1) Can you operate a TK50 when it is _only_ connected to power?
Pretty much true. There are some states, where if you operate the load
solenoid by hand, you can remove a 99%-already-unloaded cartridge.
> 2) Which is load, button pressed or button out?
Pressed in.
> 3) What are the status modes on the light?
Red light blinking fast = failure.
Red light blinking slowly = rewind.
Green light solid = tape loaded and ready.
Green light blinking = tape moving.
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Normally I don't pass on ads I see, but this guy has some unusual old
stuff, some Apple oriented, some just old computer (magazine collections
etc.)
http://bytehead.com/~lnewby/sale/APPLE.txt
