test-drb July 1999

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Wait! There's more including MS-DOS 1.25!!!! was Sanyo MBC-550 (Yuck!) software available

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I'm still digging. I found more 550 stuff. I think this is everything that came with the 550. Here's a chance for you 550 owner's to get the whole set at one shot! Original DS-DOS box and invoice. Original Sanyo Easywriter ver 1.3 disk Original Sanyo disk box with 550 dos ver 2.11 and BASIC 1.25, two original Sanyo disk for InfoStar (set B disk 2 and 3 of 4; disks 1 and 4 are below), original Sanyo disk for DOS 1.25 and BASIC ver 1.1 Original Sanyo disk box with all three original disk of set A, WordStar and CalcStar and a backup copy of DS-DOS. Two card board dummy disks used to protect the floppy drives duing shipment. Joe > >A few weeks ago we were talking about the Sanyo 550 series and someone mentioned one of the alternates operating systems that supported 80 track drives in the 550. I said that was DS-DOS by Michtron. > > Today I found an old Sanyo disk package with four disks for the 550. One of them is DS DOS 2.11, one is InfoStar, one is MailMerge/SpellStar and the other is a disk of misc utilities. The first three are original disks. In additon, the InfoStar, MailMerge/SpellStar are Sanyo labeled disks that came with the 550. If anyone wants them, trade me something I can use and they're all your's. > > Joe

11 years, 11 months

recent additions

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I recently filled the car with these: Apollo DOMAIN Series 3500 Domain series 3000 model 3010 HP/Apollo series 400 (2) Sun 3/60 + tape drive and tapes Sun 3/50 Apple lisa 2 (2) apple II Ci Mac SE/30 with radius monitor Mac color classic Quadra 610 Quadra 800 Quadra 860 power mac 7200/90 Also available was a volker Craig terminal, and a copy apple's unix I also have "quite a pile of HP 712/715/725s in various condition" for me to pick up when I get some space cleared. IKEA has said that the missing piece to complete the shelving will be delayed another 3 weeks, and my wife says no more machines until the shelves are up!

23 years, 4 months

Equipment needs home: Portland, OR. area

by wolf＠nwinfo.net

hey do you have any ideas about using relays or some thing connected to a parallel or aerial port to control the power to an outlet, you know like a dimmer switch controlling motors ETC if you have any thought or ideas I'd be glad to hear them.

23 years, 6 months

ldb4401 can be replaced by .....?

by General＠cyber.net.pk

dear sir please address the issue regards nasir

23 years, 7 months

TRS-80 Model II

by pdp-11＠swbell.net

>Also, if anyone wants one of these things, $10 plus shipping. The >condition >is unknown since I haven't fired them up ... and they don't include >keyboards :). Do you know how much shipping will be?

24 years, 3 months

PDP-11/34 & RK05 Questions

by pdp-11＠swbell.net

I am getting my PDP-11/34 and my RK05 disk drives and packs tommorrow, and I have a few questions.They have have been in storage for years, and, although they have been kept dry, they are probably dusty. Can anyone tell me how to clean the drives and the disk packs before I use them? Thanks, Owen

24 years, 4 months

pdp11/45

by jritorto＠nut.net

Hello Classiccmp. I recently acquired a nice, rust-free, mostly-original 11/45 from an old lisp hacker in Los Altos Hills, CA. He told me that it had been running the last time he'd powered it up, which was in 1984 IIRC, but sadly, something has gone awry and it won't run now, though it seems to be close. Here's a brief summary of its status: It was originally a five-rack system with each rack containing the controllers for the housed peripherals. The bus was chained through to each rack on a BC05 and terminated with an M930. I only took the processor and the TU-10 racks, so to make troubleshooting easier, I reduced the system to only the CPU and memory boxes (memory is a 220KB box from Monolithic Systems that has unibus in and out). The processor has 12 KW of core as well, so I guess I could cut the bus down a bit more for the purpose of debugging. Mode of failure is such: I powered up the shortened system and the front panel lights lit [excitement]. Then I tried to examine some memory locations via the panel, but when I hit HALT, the RUN light stayed lit. I tried every combination of switches I thought was appropriate, but the RUN light wouldn't go off. (Sounds like a simple bus error, really.) Upon realizing that something was amiss, I decabled all the power connectors >from the logic and tested the voltages, which, surprisingly, were all about 6%-9% above spec (and I'm not too sure that my VOM is accurate even though it's analog). I didn't readjust the voltages, but reconnected the power cables to the logic boards and retested the voltage levels. All stayed about the same except for the -15VDC. It dropped to about 2V. Same reading on both -15V regulators, by the way, and they seem to be connected to different areas of the backplane, but I'm not sure. There seems to be a high-pitch squeal (that sound of a laboring regulator) coming from somewhere in the power supply cluster, but there's no smoke or crackling sounds. I don't remember noticing the squeal with the power cables disconnected, but that may be a subconscious hope and not a fact. So that's my predicament. I don't have much time to mess with this beautiful old girl, so I hope someone here can increase my repairing efficiency. Help me save this great piece of computing history. In return, I'll at least give you an account on it if I get it to the point where it'll run 2.9BSD or V7. I have SMD interfaces and disks, etc and everything else I need (except a DELQA) to get it hooked up to the net. Thank you in advance. jake

25 years, 3 months

Damn fools (was Re: Dell "Oldest PC" winner on dent)

by ccfsm＠ipa.net

This has been an interesting, uh, exchange of and on many viewpoints and I've found value in quite a bit of it, i.e. it makes you think. But I do take exception to >> Even business do things they don't like or wish to do. Businesses, just like the independent people who run them, can only do what they want to do. You do what you want to do - always. You might hide your decisions behind the guise of "business made me do it" or "my spouse won't let me keep the 5360 in the house" or some such, but you made the decision, your choice is your choice. Businesses both big and small hide behind this "we didn't want to do it" nonsense as do individuals - but you can only do what it is you indented to do, what you want to do, unless of course you have a dirty bus connector or a bad memory module or a flaky CPU or faulty programming, eh? You list the possible decisions, the possible outcomes of each decision, the relative plus and minus of each variable - and then you decide what course of action to take, You do what you want. BTW - Does anybody know of any hobby level (cheep) GP-IB programming tools? All I want to do is control several DVM and a counter and function generator - minimal stuff for very basic bench automation. Any ideals? Thanks Roger Goswick Coca-Cola Bottling rdg

25 years, 4 months

Interesting find -> Honeywell-Bull AP/M

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Does anyone have any sort of info on this thing? I just picked one up at a garage sale for $1. The guy I bought it from had no info about it. He said it was in the basement of his house when he bought the house... The case is about 6" high by 15" wide. It has a 1.2 MB 5.25" floppy and a ST-225 HD in it. It has a 286-10 CPU in it, but when "turbo" (it's software controlled - "boost.exe" makes the computer beep then lights a green LED on the front)is on, it clocks at 13.5 MHz (QADiagnostics). There is a 3.5" bay that's the same height as a 5.25" floppy (anyone have a drive that'll fit in here?), and the three LED's (green, red, green - power, HD, turbo) aren't labeled. The cover over the HD bay is odd, too. It's frosted. Whenever the computer's on, the green HD light can be seen through it, sort of like the old Olivetti had. The cards that it has are a standard MFM controller (although in a non-standard place - it's set back About 1" from the back of the case, and about 1" to the right of the card cage, and the ''tail" on the card's mounting bracket goes through a hole in the motherboard)/ There's also a standard CGA/composite video card, and an ARCnet LANcard. It has a BNC coax connector on it. As my luck would have it, though the "arcnet" directory was empty. All the directories were empty but the DOS directory, and they all appear to have hidden files, because I can't remove them. The case is also made from a surprisingly heavy gauge of steel. All the metal is about 1/32" thick, and it weighs about as much as a 5170 AT. Anyone have any info on this? what it was mainly used for? Maybe a keyboard to match? :) ThAnX, ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

25 years, 4 months

IBM PS/2 P70-386 SIMM needed...+ a couple other things...

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Nope. No free slot. The long slot has an IBM 3363 controller in it, and the other slot won't accept a long cart, because it hits the cooling fan. Anyone know what the short slot's for? Yes, I do have the reverence disk. The P70 has 4 SIMM slots. ///--->>> -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1> -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 P70-386 SIMM needed...+ a couple other things... >> On 7 Aug 99 at 18:48, Olminkhof wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > >Basically what I meant is banks of two. There's two SIMMS in a bank, with >> > 2 >> > >banks, totaling 4 SIMMS. >> > > >> > >If you install three 2 MB SIMMS, instead of getting a 6 MB memory reading, >> > >you'll get a 4 MB reading and a memory error. >> > > >> > >> > >> > Nope. >> > >> > You'll get a memory error until you run the reference disk. If you have an >> > error while running the reference disk then you have the wrong type of >> > simms. >> > >> > It's not until you get to Pentiums that you need 72pin simms in pairs. >> > >> > >> > >///--->>> >> > > -Jason Willgruber >> > >> >> > >>I've never heard of this "sets of 2" stuff on these. >> > >>They use the same simms as the desktop model 70 . . ie with presence >> > >>detect circuitry. >> > >> >> > >>Hans >> > >> >> >> TMK most IBMs (as well as Ataris, Macs and NEXT) require matching simms in >> pairs, and as well presence detect in the case of MCA. There is a hardware hack >> to get around the P.D. on Peter Wendts site. While I have never tried to add a >> single simm physically except to expand the onboard memory of my 8580 to 4m >> from 2 , IIRC all the docs mention this. I would certainly be delighted if >> this were not so. I have an IBM 486 Ambra (non-MCA) which also requires memory >> in pairs but doesn't require PD and a single spare non-IBM 8meg which sits >> unused because of this limitation. I have an 8570 A-21 desktop (25mhz and 387 >> co-processor) and other PS2s. There is also a 16 meg max limitation on most of >> the PS2s altho there are workarounds for this I understand. >> >> ciao larry >> lwalker(a)interlog.com >> > >I thought that at least one of the PS/2 model 70 motherboard versions came >with 3 simm slots... I dont recall it needing simms in pairs on the >motherboard, though it does use a non-standard, PS/2 style presence >detect. > >Does the original poster have a free MCA slot for a ram expansion board? >I have one for a PS/2 model 70, that I assume would work in your system, >assuming you have the reference diskette for your machine. > >-Lawrence LeMay >

25 years, 4 months

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test-drb July 1999