<KIM bus - used on the KIM believe it or not
also the SYM-1!
<The book also includes a few x to S-100 translator designs.
KIM to s100 would be useful.
<VAX BI - hmm, that nomenclature doesn't look right, but you may
< remember this move by DEC to use a non-open bus design
BI is open but, was designed for high speed and multiple processesors.
The bus requires a chipset to communucate over it and while it was supposed
ot be widely available it was never widely adopted.
There was also CI (cluster interconnect) for multiple vaxen and storage.
Allison
anyone on the list interested in this equipment ? contact the seller direct.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Stechmann [mailto:estechmann@abivest.com]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:29 AM
To: John R. Keys Jr.
Cc: estechmann(a)abivest.com
Subject: Re: Vintage computers
John,
Well, here's a list put together last night. Some of these are in a
storage
unit and I didn't get over there to take inventory. As a result, the
list
might be incomplete, but should give you an idea:
1 - Amiga 500: w/ 'Insider' (1 MB) add-on. Hard disk & color monitor.
Books and software.
2 - Atari 512(?): 1 w/ Hard disk, ext. floppy, 2 or 3 monitors (1
color,
as I recall). Books and software.
3 - Zenith(/Heathkit?) Z-89: These machines can run CP/M or MSDOS.
Each
has both an Intel 8085 and an 8088, I believe. Two are "lowboys"
with
dual floppies and detached monitors. The other is an "all-in-one"
with
a hard disk and a floppy. The monitors are monochrome. They came
from
a business, and have appropriate software (I don't remember just
what and it's packed away) Books and software.
1 - Zenith(/Heathkit) Z-19(?): This is an "all-in-one" Z-80 CP/M
machine.
It has an external dual floppy drive and an external 8-inch
floppy.
Books and software.
1 - Zenith laptop: This needs a battery. I think this is an 8088
system.
It has a hard drive and 3.5" floppy.
A couple of Epson printers.
Assorted spare and salvaged parts for the various machines.
Is there anything of interest to you or others?
Eric
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The program said "Requires Windows 9* or better" so I bought a
Macintosh.
In a message dated 6/28/99 11:57:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Philip.Belben(a)powertech.co.uk writes:
> Greetings everyone on both lists:
Will some kind denizen of this listserv please enlighten me concerning the
other list?
Am I missing half the fun???
TIA
Glen Goodwin
0/0
On Jun 28, 17:41, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> Subject: Re: chips
> SInce these are electrically eraseable it's of no consequence what the
> previous program was. These parts can be viewed as a relplacement for
the
> entire 16xN series where x=L or R and N ranges from 4 to 8. They can
> effectively emulate/replace 16L8, 16R4, 16R6 and 16R8 with a few
exceptions.
> The macrocells associated with pins 19 and 12 have no feedback path of
their
> own, i.e. it must be via the adjacent macrocell. The data book (these
are
> AMD/Vantis parts) for the Lattice GAL parts will explain it adequately if
> you can't lay hands on an AMD databook.
They're not necessarily AMD; they could be Cypress parts, or one of a few
other manufacturers. Unfortunately, not all use the same erase or
programming algorithms (Lattice, National Semiconductor, and SGS Thomson
use one algorithm; AMD, Texas, Cypress, Altera and ICT use others).
Why do you say that pins 12 and 19 have no feedback path of their own?
They do in my data sheets...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Note: some of the links referenced are broken at present...under
construction and all that.
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[Last web site update: 05/25/99]
I grabbed, out of a pile of various PC clones being
trashed, a PC's Limited Turbo PC whose serial
number sticker says it was manufactured in Sept.
1986. Could this be one of the machines actually
assembled in Mr. Dells college dorm room?
Bill
I'm definately interested in these manuals. The shipping would be to ma zip
code 01581
Ron
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>From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)netwiz.net>
>To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Bliss, $5
>Date: Mon, Jun 28, 1999, 8:21 AM
>
> My wife is clearing out some old manuals, first up is a four volume set of
> Bliss stuff from DEC. Bliss primer vol 1, 2, and 3, plus some kind of
> Digital Bliss reference or something. The whole jolly group, $5 and postage.
>
> please email me directly, not the whole list.
>
>
>
>
>The Bliss books lasted less than 3 minutes. Sorry to those who now lack
>Bliss, but you missed it. ;)
I'd like to point out that the Bliss compilers, and the documentation,
are now in the "freely distributable" category. See
ftp://ftp.wku.edu/vms/fileserv/
for "bliss-article-ps.zip" and "bliss-intro.zip" for the documentation.
Tim.
Today a friend of mine gave me a TRS-80 Daisywheel printer.. this sucker
is HUGE, really heavy, loud, and fairly fast. I got 5 daisy wheels and 23
ribbons (!!). Some seem to be dried up but begin to print darker and
darker the longer they're run.. anybody know how I can rejuvinate (sp??)
the cartridges?
Thanks,
Kevin
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