The "D" refers to the shape and the "B" refers to the shell-size. Hence,
your typical RS-232 cable has a DB-25, indicating a D-connector with a size
B shell with 25 contacts in it. They are further designated 'S' for socket
(female) and 'P' for plug (male), which is not too hard to figure out.
Likewise, the floppy disk cable connector formerly seen on PC FDC's used a
DC37S connector, and what's most often seen on SCSI equipment attached to
SUN systems is a DD50, though I can't remember which sex goes on what. The
smaller serial connector now common on PC's is a DE-9, and the 15-pin
connector used for joystics and MIDI is the DA15. On the other hand, the
VGA connector would be a DE15, though I can't say I've ever seen it called
out that way.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Truman <jack_truman(a)hotmail.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 8:22 PM
Subject: i'm confused..
>Hello,
> This is probably a dumb questions, but i'm unsure of what a "D-type
>b-miniature connector" is. I'm trying to connect my PC's serial port to my
>VAXstation 3100, and the H8571-J adapter converts the 6-pin MMJ port to a
>"D-type sub-miniature connector." Is that simply a fancy word for a female
>serial port?
>Thanks in advance. :)
>
>-Jack
>
>
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Hello,
This is probably a dumb questions, but i'm unsure of what a "D-type
b-miniature connector" is. I'm trying to connect my PC's serial port to my
VAXstation 3100, and the H8571-J adapter converts the 6-pin MMJ port to a
"D-type sub-miniature connector." Is that simply a fancy word for a female
serial port?
Thanks in advance. :)
-Jack
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>>I'm advocating that any public archive should be accessible to as many
people as possible.
It's fruitless arguments like this disuade other list members from making
their DOCS available. No matter what format is chosen, *someone* will
always be dissatisfied.
I say, use whatever methodology is most convenient for the "publisher". If
another user wants the info bad enough, they'll figure out how to read it!
Just my $.02
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
Hi!
I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does anyone
have drivers for it??
ThAnX,
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
These aren't S-100 card documents, Sam, they're Disk drive documents, and
they're service documents at that.
A positive construct would be a novel thing to see from you, Sam. You're
against everything, and favor nothing, apparently. Can you name even one
computer from among the ones you listed that has the capability real, not
putative, in both hardware and software, of getting anything from the web?
Those people who choose to use computers unable to handle graphic displays
always have the option of choosing to use a computer capable of doing so.
If they choose not to, it's no different from you choosing your position.
It's their choice which prevents them from having the benefit of an archive
not compatible with the dozen or two others in their group, while readily
accessible to the tens of millions who don't make that choice. They can
always go to the local library if they need. It's like the folks who won't
drive a car, though not as environmentally conscious. They could ride a
bus. They really don't have to walk, and you, Sam, you don't have to sit
and curse the darkness. I invite you to light one candle. Make a
suggestion that would work.
Dick
-----Original Message-----
From: Sellam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Documents
>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>
>> Let's try to keep this in perspective, Sam. When there's a text file
>> format which will display the exploded view drawings in these service
>> documents on your (Apple ][, Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80
>> Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair >8800, etc)
>
>You're still missing the point. Some people choose to use computers that
>aren't even PC-based. All they may have availabe is a text-based display
>and a couple disk drives.
>
>You're the one who should keep this in prespective. Since when does all
>documentation reuire an exploded diagram? Why does an S-100 bus card need
>an exploded diagram??
>
>> then you may have a valid point. For that matter, aside from the last
>> three on the list, there's not one likely to need this documentation,
>> nor is it likely that anyone unable to afford disk space enough to
>> hold a complete PDF file of one of these relatively short documents
>> when a 10GB disk drive costs less than $200, will be able to afford
>> one of the "antique" devices to which they apply.
>
>This is a silly argument, but coming from you I'm not surprised.
>
>> Take a look at the "unofficial CP/M web site," whatever the URL is, and
>> you'll see the document files offered in several formats, though I'd
>> speculate that none of the systems you listed in your comments,
"(Apple ][,
>> Commodore 64, Atari x00, TI 99/4a, TRS-80 Model x, Heathkit Hx, OSI
>> Challenger x, IMSAI 8080, Altair 8800, etc)" can view any of those files.
>>
>> Perhaps you can offer a positive construct rather than simply wringing
your
>> hands and being a naysayer.
>
>I'm hardly being a naysayer. I'm advocating that any public archive
>should be accessible to as many people as possible. I'm not forcing you
>to follow my suggestions. I realize that not everyone has a firm grasp on
>common sense.
>
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>
Hi,
On Thu, 13 May 1999 Doug Spence wrote:
> >> As for disk transfers, I can do that with my handy-dandy A1020 drive
> >> on my Amiga. It reads and writes several Atari 8-bit formats just
> >> fine, including 810 (SS/SD) and XF551 (DS/DD?).
> >
> > Hmm have to check that out.
>
> Yes, if your Amiga's 5.25" floppy drive is connected to the Amiga's
> floppy controller, you should be able to do the same thing.
>
> The program for doing this is on aminet:misc/emu/551conv.lha
Talking of the Amiga 1020 drive... I would like to get hold of one of these. Am
I correct in thinking that they were not sold in the UK (where I live)?
If I can't find an A1020 (or compatible replacement, if any were made), I may
try and rig up my own drive.
To this end, can some kind person who owns an A1020 open it up, and tell me
what type/model the drive mechanism is, and also describe any interface PCB
that's inside?
-- Mark
I don't have any Disney games, but I downloaded Sputter and tried it out on
my Zenith SupersPORT (8088). All I could get it to do was make the internal
speaker crackle. I seem to be doing what it says to in the docs (for
Sputter), but can't get it to work. I wouldn't mind having the Windows
drivers, though, since I hope to use the Sound Source on an old 386 laptop
that I have (maybe...)
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ruschmeyer <jruschme(a)exit109.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sonntag, 6. Juni 1999 17:31
Subject: Re: Disney Sound Source
>> >I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
>> >what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does
anyone
>> >have drivers for it??
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> I think there are drivers for it in Windows 3.1 .
>
>There are Windows 3.1 drivers (I have a copy around here somewhere... just
>hope it's on something readable). Beyond that, I know that some Disney
>games supported it as did the sound utility 'sputter'.
>
><<<john>>>
>
Yeah. Whit a little silver box with a Mickey Mouse Silhouette on it. It
looked similar to the Covox Speech Thing, and connected to the amplifier /
speaker with a RJ-11 jack.
///--->>>
-Jason Willgruber
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#: 1730318
<http://members.tripod.com/general_1>
BTW>> I need drivers for the Covox Speech Thing, too.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Passmore <fpp(a)concentric.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Sonntag, 6. Juni 1999 13:15
Subject: Re: Disney Sound Source
>Is this the sound card that attached to the parallel port?
>
>>I just picked up a Disney Sound Source (?1983) from a flea market. From
>>what I know, it's a external sound card that'll play Wav files. Does
>anyone
>>have drivers for it??
>
>
>
Gracias too Tim and Bruce for the answer to my board question.
I have the 16-channel RS232 port assembly that goes on the other
end of this... I just didn't know what it hooked up to.. till now.
What started this was taking an inventory of the 1/44 to see about
fitting an RL11 into it, thus to begin using RL02s.
Of course this rash activity is bound to generate a small flurry
of further perplexities... at least I've got full docs on everything.
Cheerz
John
