Hello, all:
I decided to fiddle around with my Mac Portable again, after a few
months of it sitting in a closet. My unit, non-backlit, has a row or two of
bad pixels. If anyone has a non-working Portable with a good screen, let me
know.
Thanks.
[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
[ ClubWin!/CW7
[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
[ Collector of "classic" computers
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I just got a box of doc's today in the mail, and I'm totally fascinated by
two of them. They're nicely done copies!?!? They have semi-heavy cream
coloured covers with the actual cover xeroxed onto them, and the pages are
xeroxes, but the right size. They're bound with the spiral plastic things.
Does anyone know what the story is with these? Are these copies that DEC
made, or did a 3rd party go to this much trouble?
I do have one copy of "Introduction to Programming" that is spiral bound,
but it was printed and bound that way. These are most definitly xeroxes.
Way Cool!
Zane
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In Pirates of Silicon Valley last night (let's not get into the movie
please), they trundled by an Apple Lisa 1 on a cart.
Where the heck did they get a Lisa 1? They're rare as hen's teeth! They
certainly didn't get it from Apple, given the movie's treatment of Steve
Jobs (let's not get into the movie please...)
Has anyone actually seen a Lisa 1 in person, or knows anyone who has one?
Kai
Pays to stay away from the tip shops for a while :-)
Today I got:
Three Dick Smith VZ200's plus tape drives, joysticks, manuals & a bit of
software, another CBM 1571 & a 1541-II, a CBM 1802 monitor, a CBM 1701
amber monitor (been looking for one of these & something I've been
looking for, an Apple //c (it even works!), although the case is rather
shabby. As well as the usual collection of books, tapes & disks for the
64......
cheers,
Lance
Hi,
Some time ago, I thought I read that someone on this list has a list of DEC
part numbers (and presumably what each part number is for). If anyone does,
can they please contact me? I want to know which DEC computers would be
compatible with some 80-pin 4MB SIMMs that I have. (The SIMMs have this on the
PCB: 5019144-01 A1P2)
-- Mark
Well, in a somewhat anti-climatic moment I hooked up the ASR-33 to my
PDP-8/e, switched on the 8/e, then switched on the tty to "line" and got
the expected idle hum. I keyed in the "simple test" that is in the
maintenence book which simply echos the keyboard to the printer, and that
worked, and then keyed in the "real" test which was to take the character
and add 1 to it and then echo it. (A DEC engineer explained to me that this
test actually proved the character typed went through the ALU versus a
M8650 with a short that just connected tx to rx). Everything worked as
expected. Now to get my paper tapes to run through it and boot Focal or
PAL8 the old fashioned way.
--Chuck
Hmm, no, the picture of the Lisa on their web site is a Lisa 2.
Kai
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@cs.umn.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 2:04 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: Where the heck did they get the Lisa 1?
They got it from The Computer Museum of America. I was just at their web
site today, and saw all sorts of references to the movie, plus I recall
that they said the Apple I they have at the museum is actually just
a mockup that was made for the movie.
http://www.computer-museum.org/
-Lawrence LeMay
> In Pirates of Silicon Valley last night (let's not get into the movie
> please), they trundled by an Apple Lisa 1 on a cart.
>
> Where the heck did they get a Lisa 1? They're rare as hen's teeth! They
> certainly didn't get it from Apple, given the movie's treatment of Steve
> Jobs (let's not get into the movie please...)
>
> Has anyone actually seen a Lisa 1 in person, or knows anyone who has one?
>
> Kai
>
On Jun 21, 17:53, Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com wrote:
> I too like the PET.
> But I don't like the 8032SK or its 8296 descendant.
I agree with that. Actually, I didn't like any of the big-screen PETs.
Out of proportion to my eyes.
> Lots of people sing the praise of the SGI Personal Iris descendant that
looks
> like two blue plastic wedges that don't quite make a cuboid when placed
> together. But I thought that was naff, as we say over here.
That's an Indy workstation.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
> Has anyone ever put together a list of handsomely designed computers?
> Not great runners, not powerful, but just aesthetically pleasing? My
> impression is that there probably are not all that many, and that the
> first machines to exclude from such a list are the iMac grotesques.
I have seen some of the replies to this, and rather than join in the argument,
I'll just make some suggestions.
I too like the PET.
But I don't like the 8032SK or its 8296 descendant. (I always maintained that
SK stood for Silly Kasing). Yes, it's not bad to look at, and was one of the
first curvy machines, but the keyboard plug that always falls out at the worst
moment spoils it totally for me.
Lots of people sing the praise of the SGI Personal Iris descendant that looks
like two blue plastic wedges that don't quite make a cuboid when placed
together. But I thought that was naff, as we say over here.
We had some machines (PC clones) at work a few years ago which were square with
one corner cut off. You put them in the corner of one of those desks with
curved fronts, with the cut-off corner towards you, and find that the latter has
floppy drives etc. in it. But I can't remember the manufacturer. I thought it
was a nice (visual) design, but boring machines.
Philip.
PS I like the original Mac better (visually) than any subsequent Mac)
Getting into work after the weekend, I find that Kai has been compiling a little
list...
> Here's the first draft at a list of the Top 150 Collectible Microcomputers
> (from the U.S.A.). I would have gone for Top 100 but there are just too
> many great machines, and 200 is too many.
>
> It's currently at 133 items. Some related models are combined as one, even
> though they are rather different... other similar models are kept separate.
> This is basically just because I personally feel they rate their own
> separate listing, feel free to disagree.
>
> Please add items! Items on the list should meet the following categories:
>
> 1) Collectible Microcomputer (yes, I know the H-11 is on here as an
> "honorary" micro)
> 3) Sold in the USA
> 4) Available from a manufacturer (not just plans in a magazine)
Why criterion 3? (What was 2, by the way?)
If you want "from the USA" wouldn't it be better to specify designed and/or
manufactured there? To use your analogy from another post, you would define the
top Italian sports cars as designed/built in Italy, not just those sold there.
My view is that the US is so dominant in microcomputers, that your restriction
excludes interesting machines without a significant reduction in the quantity of
entrants...
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Still, I have a few to add:
Tektronix 4051. Not many around. First micro to be designed starting with
graphics and then going on to processor.
(since I like the 4050 series, I might put the 4054A on a list of top
non-micros...)
IBM 6150. This was the RT-PC. IBM's first RISC box; IBM's first Workstation;
and (to make sure it qualifies) it was sold under a variety of names, including
"6150 Microcomputer"
Vectrex. A home computer with vector graphics. May not be a wonderful design,
but funnnnnn concept!
I think someone has already mentioned the Victor (we called it the Sirius, but
that's another matter)
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I also would like to condense the list in places.
Tandy model 4P should be on the same line as model 3/4, especially if you put
all 3 Coco machines on a single line.
Do you need quite that many Apple IIs?
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After this it's minor quibbles:
You commented elsewhere that the PET 4032/8032 was in as "PET gets a sensible
keyboard and goes for business" or words to that effect. This happened with the
2001-8B (-16B and -32B) and their renumbered equivalents, 3008, 3016, 3032. I'd
put the PET 2001-8 on one line; 2001-B, -N and -K, 3000, 4000 on the next and
8032, 8096, 8296 on a third - the 80 column PETs.
HP85 - how about the 86 or 87? Or the 75? Or even the 71? Why that one and no
other?
Still, it's an interesting list. Keep up the good work!
Philip.
