It's an hour trip up to where they are... I'd rather not make multiple
2-hour drives if I can help it, which is why I'm trying for a truck.
Someone mentioned Budget... I'm going to contact them...
Megan
For those of you that requested photos of the AES 7100, I just put some up
on my web site. I was exceptionally lazy about carrying stuff around, so
I just used the family television set as my monitor for grabbing and
cropping the pictures. I hope they're in focus. :)
--
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
Yeah, tony was supposed to send a 'parts only' c-128, and maybe
a 1571, but I haven't heard from him. I haven't pursued this
for two reasons: I haven't sent him any money, and he has had a
seriously life-changing experience, leaving destruction in its wake.
SO, anyway, is there a way to properly handle deadbeats onthis
list? There's someone I'd like to publicly embarass, but I'm unsure
if it would be the proper thing to do. . . .
Jeff
On 13 Mar 1999 20:07:02 -0000 Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com> writes:
>Back in November, Tony Dellett posted to this list a message offering
>a bunch of items for sale. A copy is attached below.
>
>Would anyone who purchased items from Tony please send me private
>email?
>
>Thanks!
>Eric
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>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:24:10 -0500
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
>Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu
>From: "Dellett, Anthony" <Anthony.Dellett(a)Staples.com>
>To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>Subject: Spring Cleaning
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>I know it's not spring but it is time for me to thin out my
>collection. I'm
>offering these for sale here first before sending them off to ebay.
>
>Email me with offers to anthony.dellett(a)staples.com. I dont get time
>to
>check the list much so posing a reply there will get you nowhere.
>
>Atari 800 (not working, parts?)
>Atari 1050 Disk Drive (two of them)
>Commodore 64 (complete in box, I have two like this)
>Commodore 1541 Disk Drive (2 in box, one works, one doesn't)
>Commodore 1541 II Disk Drive (complete in box)
>Commodore 128 (complete in box)
>Commodore 1571 Disk Drive (complete in box)
>Compupro S-100 Enclosure (motherboard and PS only, no cards)
>IMSAI 8080 W/8080 Processor Card, SIO4 (Godbout w/docs), RAM64
>(Godbout
>w/docs), PIO8 (IMSAI)
>Kaypro I (incl. boot disk)
>Kaypro II (incl. boot disk)
>Kaypro IV (incl. boot disk)
>NorthStar Horizon (not working)
>NorthStar Advantage (works completely, with boot disk)
>Osborne I (not working)
>Osborne Executive (incl. boot disk)
>Processor Technology SOL w/SOLOS personality module
>Sanyo CP/M System (with software)
>TI-99/4A Computer (beige model, in box)
>TRS-80 Model III (with some software)
>
>8" DS/DD Floppy Drive (in wooden enclosure) and Controller (Godbout
>w/docs)
>8" SS/SD Floppy Drive (no enclosure)
>8" SS/SD Dual Drive Subsystem (ICOM)
>8" Hard Disk Drive in enclosure w/controller (Fujitsu Hard Drive,
>Godbout
>Controller w/docs)
>
>I also have some random Commodore stuff that I cant remember (modem,
>paddles, trackball, etc...) I can take a closer look if anyone is
>interested.
>
>A word of warning... I'd like to sell these things to someone on the
>list
>but I'll only accept "reasonable" offers.
>
>Tony
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Said Kevin McQuiggen:
>A real longshot would
>be anything related to the IBM 1620, docs, software.
Back in 1978 the University Dept where I worked gave away its IBM 1620 (had
been working regularly up till then) and I managed to grab a copy of
"Programming the IBM 1620" by Clarence Germain, 2nd ed., 1965 from the bin.
Contains 192 pages of detail on the hardware and Fortran and ML programming.
I would be prepared to photocopy it if it was of real use to someone - they
would have to pay photocopying and postage - about $US20 +/- $US5 all up.
Phil
in Brisbane, Australia.
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<Once upon a midnight dreary, Zane H. Healy had spoken clearly:
<
<>in the back of my current pickup. I'm wondering if the smaller pickups
<>along the lines of a Chevy S-10 can handle that.
<
<Altho they did make longbox (8 foot) boxes on the S-10 line, they're prett
<tough to find. Otherwise, an S10 will fit anything 6 foot even... or maybe
I have a toyota (1982!) and with the gate down 8Ft items are no problem.
It has in the last year moved 12 VS3100s, 15 Vt320s, 8 S100 crates and
atlest 8 8" disk pairs, several racks 8 assorted telvideo unknown number
of printers and monitors. If I could get it in it or on it, it moved.
<Weight-wise - I've found the S10 line to be quite capable. They're standar
<1/2-ton, but I've had over 3/4 ton in the back of mine, once... I pulled
Same with the toyota, the Chevy LUV (it was the predecessor to S10).
So considering I drive 100mi a day with it at 162,000 its solid enough.
Pickup trucks regardless of the size are really great for moving computer
hardware and the Vans or their kin are a good second choice. Weight is not
a limiting factor as more often you cube out first.
Allison
Hi Gang:
Time to clear out some stuff. I have the following item available for
trade, or potential sale:
A Motorola "EXORcisor" 6800 development system, from the mid 1970s. Dual
8" floppies, and SOROC dumb terminal. Full documentation, software,
several development boards. This outfit was used to develop specialized
devices around the Motorola 6800 CPU. The terminal doesn't work and I
haven't had time to figure out why. The other items were operational about
5 years ago.
I'm looking for anything pdp-8 or pdp-11 related. Peripherals such as a
DECtape drive or paper tape devices, heck even a card reader, would be
nice. Even some documentation, DEC handbooks etc. A real longshot would
be anything related to the IBM 1620, docs, software.
If the trading doesn't work out then I would sell the EXORcisor system for
a reasonable best offer (read that as "pretty cheap").
Please contact me eithor on the list or via email. I'm located in
Vancouver, BC.
Kevin
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Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD
mcquiggi(a)sfu.ca
> Someone mentioned Budget... I'm going to contact them...
Well, I always went to www.budget.com to make reservations with them,
but I see that now that I'm 3000 miles away from BC that particular
web site doesn't do me a lot of good!
It looks like www.budgetrentacar.com is the place most folks want
to start at. According to the web site at least some of the 15'
and 26' trucks have liftgates; in my experience the availability of
26-footers with liftgates is far superior to 15-footers.
--
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>be anything related to the IBM 1620, docs, software.
Just so happens I have some IBM 1620 docs, including a
programming (SPS) manual... I haven't done so yet, but
I have promised to make a copy for the people doing the
1620 renovation at the Computer Museum at Moffett Field
in California...
I could probably make a second set if you are interested...
contact me off-list...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>
>Which means what I really want to know is how many vehicles currently on
>the market can handle at least a single H960?
>
My old 1/2 ton Chevy pickup has had in it a H960 (SA800 - 8 RA90's) 860 lbs
and 3 HSC50's, a star coupler, 2 TU80's all at once. I never said I was
legal weight but it took it. Yes I did avoid the scales. I found out how
heavy the SA800 was when I went to unload it. I had to half gut it to roll
it off the truck. Then I looked at the manual to find out it is 860 some
pounds. What a difference it was unloading it by myself than loading it
with a forklift. Initially I was going to put the second SA800 on the same
load but the first squatted the truck enough.
What model are the Diablo drives? I have some Diablo manuals from those
days and did some work on them back then. If they are Diablo 31 or 33's I
should still have the books to refresh the fading memory on locking the
heads etc.
I would check with some of the truck rental companies about the CDL
requirements in MA. Federal requirements are anything licensed over 26,000
lbs. or anything with air brakes require a CDL. I have had no problem
renting trucks with lift gates in any state so far.
One of the companies I have used and had very good luck with (very new
equipment and gentle suspension) is Idealease. All of their trucks have
lift gates that tuck under the truck. (important when dock loading) and
nice E channels for heavy duty straps. They also have wood floors which is
good for nailing pieces of 2x4's into at the base of racks and pieces that
you can't strap down. Some of their locations will not do one way rentals
however.
Dan
Well, the day has come... next weekend is when I've arranged to go
and get the pdp-8s and the pdp-11/34 that I've been making room for
at home...
In preparation of the move, I just wanted to ask the list for some
advice on how to transport so as to have no (or minimum) risk of
damage.
The machines are currently in two tall (6') and one medium (about 4')
racks. There is a minimum of cabling between the racks, so separating
them should not be a problem. I'm planning on marking any such cables
so they can be restored.
Obviously, the RL disks will have heads locked down. The other disks
are Diablo (RK05 equivalents), so how do I lock those down?
Since I don't have a class two license, I can't get a truck with a
lift gate, so I was planning on unloaded all the boxes from the racks
(CPU, disks, anything else) and placing them on shipping pads, the
disks with foam pads underneath. I was planning on tipping the racks
over onto dollies to be wheeled up the ramp into the truck where they
would travel on their sides, on mats.
One thing I learned from boating -- If something can possibly end up on
the deck en route, *put it there* before casting off...
Also, in order to make some room, I'm getting rid of a few things
and wanted to offer them to people on the list. What I have to get
rid of are two 11/05 chassis, with power supplies, unknown state (I
got them from someone else in that state), and one 11/10 chassis,
also in unknown state. They are pretty heavy, so I'm not up to
lugging them somewhere for shipment. Also, since they are unknown
state, it might be best for someone local to Framingham, Mass to
pick them up if interested.
Finally, if anyone is interested in helping in the move to experience
the procedure of moving old iron (hows that for a "fence-painting
come-on"?), please contact me off-list...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com |
| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com |
| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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