"Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> wrote:
> BTW: this E symbol is one of the 4 most stupid ideas around
> the euro - a typical pice of shit like most ideas developed
> by politicians. Don't get me wrong, the Euro is a good idea,
> but they tried to make it as stupid as possible.
The cynic in me wonders whether the funny-looking E isn't something
pushed either before or after the political accomplishment by computer
companies wanting to churn the installed base. I mean, Y2K has a
definite sell-by date. So does this but I think it's another couple
years out, right?
ObCC: so what did you UKans do to get your funny-looking L on
computers, terminals, and printers imported from ASCII-speaking
countries?
-Frank McConnell
On Feb 1, 23:30, Eric Smith wrote:
> Of course. It would use a HeNe laser, just like the early laser video
> disc players.
>
> The part I haven't figured out is the photodetector. Even those early LD
> players used a phototransistor for the detector.
Would a selenium cell be fast enough? A CdS photresistor probably wouldn't
be, I think.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
In einer eMail vom 31.01.1999 23:58:22, schreiben Sie:
<<
I wonder if bit-serial would be simpler (less data path, more control
logic, basically). A lot of the valved machines were bit-serial for this
reason.
[...]
I simply find bit-serial AWFUL - so much time wasted !!! Anything
should be designed to get the max. performance out of given
technology/budget, in my opinion; bit-serial certainly then would be
a good solution for a LONG word, like 30-60 bit, doing floating point,
if and only if budget limits do not allow paralell,
but not for smaller things. THAT is the reason for the historic machines
- they wanted floating point, therefore long words, therefore serial
because
of budget/size/etc constraints.
> Am amazed you couls build a computer like this with ~400 cards ~800 tubes.
> That is similar to building a complete computer with 200 SSI TTL chips like
> a 7400. Especially since a 24 bit latch could use 24 of the cards. I tried
This doesn't sound out of line. The CPU of the PDP8/e on my desk is 3
quad cards of TTL, mostly simple gates. Perhapes 250chips total. OK, some
of them are more complex (like full adder circuits), but there's nothing
that big in there.
> a design once (on paper) with MSI ic's like 74193 counters, and it quickly
> got out of hand, 100's of ic's.
If you're going to allow anything in the TTL data book, then you can
trivially make a CPU in 200 chips. You have to cheat slightly (74181
ALUs, small PROMs, etc), but it can be done. It has been done - many times.
-tony
>>
The big difference is in the basic AND-OR-INVERT tube gate used: only
one half tube (the INVERT, one triode section out of a dual triode
tube) is used,
but a lot of diodes doing the ANDs and ORs,
so that one tube section is equivalent to MORE than a standard SSI 74xx
IC.
Typically, I would say one AND-OR-INVERT, i.e. one tube section
plus associated diodes and resistors is equivalent
to about one entire 74xx package, so one tube is equivalent to about
two
packages, on the average.
John G. Zabolitzky
->One detail that you might need to check: does the CD-RW share the IDE
>channel with the CD-ROM? A lot of recorders will spit out bad CD's
>because of this. I've had two drives that either wouldn't record at the
>right speed or would bomb when writing the table of contents to the disc.
>
>Brett
I think you may have something here Brett, Yes they do share the same IDE
cable, one is Master , one is slave..
Problem is I also have a master & slave ide hard drive on the other cable..
I will try changing the cableing, did not know this was a problem, the book
does not tell of this potential problem of sharing two cdrom drives on the
same ide cable..
Phil...
>For ASCII text we tend to use 'L', 'UKP', 'GBP', or \pounds to mean a
>pound sign. Or do what at least one catalogue I have (a current
>catalogue, BTW), and give all prices in pence. This catalogue includes
>things like 3600p (meaning \pounds 36.00), I guess because they couldn't
>print a pound sign.
Which brings up the question: What is the symbol or abbreviation for one
hundredth of a Euro?
Francois
>
>
>-tony
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 2 February 1999 3:49
Subject: Re: TI99: WP and PC
>P.S.: I've been told there was a Nixdorf computer where they
> build a (TTL) CPU based on the 9900 design.
I've got some bits of a Nixdorf something or other. Basically it's the
backplane, minus the rack and mountings, plus the power supply, some drives,
and cables and a couple of boxes full of modules.
Chip dates are around 74. Anyone know anything about Nixdorfs of this era?
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
OK, I'm back to trying to get Alan Baldwin's TCP/IP package running on
RT-11. I've gone over the install procedure and am sure I'm doing it
right. Tonite I was trying for both TSX+ and the RT-11 XM monitor using
the EQ driver, and also the NQ driver that came with RT-11 for the XM
monitor.
I know the ethernet board is good as I'm able to use it under RSX-11M for
DECnet.
Howver, I'm getting the following error when I try to use FTP to connect to
one of my other systems on my network.
.ftpsb 192.168.1.41
FTPSB-11 V02.24 1-Nov-1998
Board initialization failed!. Error code=11
netinit() failed
.
Can anyone translate this and tell me what I'm doing? Has anyone here
managed to successfully install the software?
The other problem is that while the instructions say that the EQ drivers
included will work on a system running the SJ or FB monitors, I can't get
the driver to load. Yes, I realize it's not normal for the SJ/FB monitors
to be able to use a EQ driver.
Zane
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I hope you're kidding about the Altair serial number 1... I would
rather hope that he would be investigated for 1) stealing it in
the first place, or 2) accepting stolen property...
Megan
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug <doug(a)blinkenlights.com>
>No it doesn't. Here's the Real Story (TM): Ed Roberts had a publication
>deadline...
damn... I was envisioning BIllG and PaulA on horseback jumping onto the
roof of a speeding train with guns (and whips) in hand... I'll have to
cancel that memo to Steve Spielburg....
Heh...
Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
I was wandering around the net and found - 4PDT relays with sockets.
Price - $2.00 - 24DC coils.
Email me to get some while thier hot - er - available 8-)
Wasn't it you Derek?
BC