Guity!
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/special/msdojendgame.html
I found this elsewhere, I think this sums it up nicely.
"Microsoft has demonstrated that it will use its prodigious market power
and immense profits to harm any firm that insists on pursuing initiatives
that could intensify competition against one of Microsoft's core products,"
Jackson wrote in his findings. "The ultimate result is that some
innovations that would truly benefit consumers never occur for the sole
reason that they do not coincide with Microsoft's self-interest."
Something tells me that this is going to help Caldera's case against Microsoft!
Zane
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"George Currie" <g(a)kurico.com> said:
> What shipping methods do people prefer for shipping larger (say >
> 100lbs, large deskside, small mini type) systems.
I've heard that many coin-op video game collectors like to use
Forward Air. The last I heard, they charge $28.50 per 100. But it's
primarily an airport to airport transport service.
Airports served by Forward Air -
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/6996/forwardair.html
Home Page
http://www.forwardair.com/
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I may be getting my 1800 pound
computer from Indiana this month. A friend made a deal with a
car collector that has his own enclosed car van. The driver
should be picking it up on the way back from Florida.
It might pay you to start hanging out at your local car clubs. :)
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jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote:
> Humbug. They don't say 'compatible' anything. Damn.
> I guess these are stock DC615 stapes, then.
Here's how to guess; it depends on the tape having been properly
rewound before ejection. But as you might have guessed, it's hard to
get the HP drives to let go of a tape 'til they're darn good and
ready and that means rewound.
Hold the tape so you're looking at the clear plastic side with the
capstan roller at the top. Which reel has (almost) all of the tape on
it? Left -> HP tape, right -> non-HP.
-Frank McConnell
Humbug. They don't say 'compatible' anything. Damn.
I guess these are stock DC615 stapes, then.
Jeff
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:18:19 Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> writes:
>Jeff,
>
> The distribution ones don't have a regular tape part number only the
>PN
>of the update but they should still say "9144 compatible". They
>should
>work fine.
>
> Joe
>
>At 02:33 PM 11/5/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>Joe:
>>
>>Hmmm. The ones I have were used as distribution media for HPUX,
>>and aren't so marked with a part number. I dunno . . . .
>>
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:37:02 Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> writes:
>>> I went and looked up the HP part number for the 9144 tapes. It's
>
>>> "HP
>>> 88140LC" for the 65 Mb ones and "HP 88140SC" for the 15 Mb ones.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>
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Hmmm. The ones I have were used as distribution media for HPUX,
and aren't so marked with a part number. I dunno . . . .
Jeff
On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:37:02 Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> writes:
> I went and looked up the HP part number for the 9144 tapes. It's
> "HP
> 88140LC" for the 65 Mb ones and "HP 88140SC" for the 15 Mb ones.
>
> Joe
>
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--- "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> >My "favorites" are BYPASS and CMKRNL. BYPASS does just that: bypasses all
> >UIC-based checking - reads, writes, deletes, etc. It's handy when you need
> >to delete a directory tree, but it's a dangerous one to leave on by default.
>
> Default Privileges:
> NETMBX TMPMBX
>
> Well, with 7.2 these are it by default.
Default for ordinary users or default to SYSTEM? I mean I turn off BYPASS
as a default priv for SYSTEM. It's _NEVER_ on for ordinary users. NB: my
experiences with VMS peter out around 6.1. If SYSTEM no longer has the world
of privs turned on at login, I wouldn't know about it.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 2:59 PM
Subject: DF32 or RF08/RS08
>With all this talk of DF32s, I'd like to mention that I'm still interested
>in getting a DF32 or RF08/RS08 for use with my PDP-8/I and PDP-12. If
>anyone knows where an extra can be found, or has one for sale or trade,
>please let me know. There's a partial list of stuff I have available for
>trade on my web page, http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/
>
>I'm also still hoping to track down a copy of TSS/8 or TSS/12.
I have that! I just found the manual "TSS/8 MONITOR".. there is a pile of
other stuff. I am picking up a huge 8I and Lab-8 in the morning. I don't
know what it is yet though (some kind of timesharing system?). I have the
manual and the paper tapes.. What tapes are you looking for (I have no idea
which different tapes are needed as I have too much documentation to go
through right now). I can download them to my PC and get them to you.
I have quite a list to send you. I think we can do some trades and some $$.
john
>
>Cheers,
>Eric
>
HP-3000 MANAGER.SYS or any account with capabilities of
SM (system manager)
OP (operator)
NM (network manager)
CV (create volume)
PM (priv mode)
Each capability enables different commands.
There's about 20 other caps, but these are the basic
ones for system management.
ITF "OPRTR" which was usually aliased to something else
Anybody ever use this? It was an interactive timesharing
system running on IBM 360/370 systems in the early 70's.
It had BASIC and PL/1. Pretty cool for its time.
The rest of this is based on my rapidly eroding memory banks:
RSTS/E [1,1] was the system (you couldn't really use it)
[1,2] was the "system admin"
[1,*] were privilged accounts
ITS "1000" account users.
This was a timesharing system running on CDC equipment
at the California State University campuses in the mid/early 70's.
NOS ******** (8 asterisks)
This was the "upgraded" timesharing system running on CDC
equipment (6000's??) at the CSU campuses in the mid/late 70's.
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>> 1) Pull the boards and grants (noting location)
>
>Good first step.
I would suggest vacuuming as much as possible before even pulling
the boards -- especially the deteriorating foam... try to orient the
box such that any foam which breaks off while you're doing this
doesn't fall into the backplane...
Once the boards are out, then vacuum directly over the slots, spending
lots of time, and make sure you have good suction.
[... section on cleaning PSU removed ...]
Sounds sound...
>I've never needed to go any further, but by doing the above you can
>_really_ clean up the machine. It sounds a long job, but it takes me <30
>minutes to do all the above.
> 3) Washing the boards, (except for core mats)
Vacuum the boards (and/or blow them off with the dust-off...
I'll admit to being leary of putting boards in the dishwasher
the way Allison does, but it works for her, and she definitely
knows more than I about the electronics... so ...
> 5) Install enough boards to get ODT to talk to me
> and then work it one set at a time until I can
> boot from the TU-60.
Sounds good.. One problem is that you have to keep in mind the
slots which might need the CA1-CB1 jumper installed if you don't
have boards in it... otherwise you may get bus errors...
I would also think about a PSU power-on test with no backplanes
attached, then with backplanes attached, then with Unibus jumpers,
etc... I don't know if the PSU can handle a no-load condition,
though -- Allison, Tony or Tim.S might be able to answer that
better.
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At 10:08 PM 10/25/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Two 1MHz busses will be faster than a single 2MHz bus if they are being used
>>for different purposes, such as one for I/O and one for memory accesses.
>
>But my point is that one 4 MHz synchronous bus is going to be faster than
>two 1 MHz busses in all cases.
No, no and no. A dumb 4Mhz burst bus that requires cpu attention to work
will be many times slower in actual applications than two 1Mhz buses with
distributed arbitration and such smarts. That's all the point of the
discussion. That's why raw numbers tend to be meaningless. That's why
system designers nowadays make decisions based on simulations and not
on raw specs.
Carlos.
