test-drb January 1999

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by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Does anyone want/need OS2 2.00.1 ? I have quite a few sets of these I set aside in a box many years ago. Also, if anyone needs any of the stuff that came with the IBM Valuepoint 33Mhz DX systems (user guides, etc) I have plenty of sets of those too. Most of this stuff is still in shrinkwrap. -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

25 years, 7 months

Anyone have an extra IBM 5155 laying around??

by roblwill＠usaor.net

My teacher had replaced the XT motherboard with a 5150 board when the HD and floppies quit, so that ROM BASIC could be used with the cassette port. -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1> -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Saturday, January 16, 1999 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Anyone have an extra IBM 5155 laying around?? >> I'm not necessarily concerned about originally, just as long as the monitor, >> P/S, and keyboard work, and it's in fairly good condition ( I have a bunch >> of parts). I'm basically looking for it for sentimental value, since a 5155 >> was the first IBM-compatible computer that I used. It was in the elementary >> school that I went to, and neither the floppies or HD worked, so all it ran >> was ROM BASIC, and saved the programs on cassette. Since I had an old > >This bothers me. The 5155 (I have one, although not up for grabs) uses an >XT motherboard, and AFAIK it never had a cassette port. Yes, there was >ROM basic, but no way to save from it. The only way you could have used a >cassette would be if somebody had designed an expansion card that grabbed >INT15 (I think) and implemented the cassette port. If that card ever >existed, then I want one! > >There never was an official IBM hard disk, but plenty of people put a >short-length controller card in the machine together with a half-height >hard drive. > >-tony > >

25 years, 7 months

victor 9000 (also called Sirius) (fwd)

by siconic＠jasmine.psyber.com

Here's someone in Belgium wanting to get rid of a Victor 9000. It was an early 80's 8086-based machine that came out before the PC but eventually was PC-compatible. It was actually a much better machine than the PC and had many interesting innovations, but we all know the story. Please respond to the owner directly. Reply-to: phonelinks(a)skynet.be ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:03:26 +0100 From: Fabrizio Franzi' <phonelinks(a)skynet.be> Subject: victor 9000 (also called Sirius) Hello, I wonder if anyone would anybody have an interest in a "new" Victor 9000. 256KRAM, 2 double-speed 1.2 MB 5 1/4" FDs, monochrome screen, qwerty keyboard. Used to run cp/m 86 and ms-dos 2.0. I'm in Belgium (Brussels) -- kind regards Fabrizio Franzì --------------------------------------------- e-mail: phonelinks(a)skynet.be voice: +32 2 347 2566 gsm: +32 75 474775 fax: +32 2 372 2258 or +32 2 347 2471 Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)verio.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0! See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details [Last web site update: 01/15/99]

25 years, 7 months

PDP 11/34 in Belgium

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

And this one too: pdp 11/34 Monday, 02-Nov-98 15:45:05 Message: 193.74.7.181 writes: I have a complete pdp11/34 with removable hardddisks puncher reader deckpack rk05f rk05j deckpack 28 .attention its a very old one buth he is complete.it's in belgium david_evi(a)hotmail.com Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 01/15/99]

25 years, 7 months

TRS-80 Model 12

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Found this on a web-site: Radio Shack TRS80 model 12 brand new, sealed box Tuesday, 03-Nov-98 09:06:02 Message: 205.188.193.39 writes: Brand new, in un-opened sealed box, Radio Shack TRS80 Model 12 microcomputer for sale, also used ones available. E-mail or call to 773-935-7080 ext. 205 Attn: Darius Augustine Darius Augustine Tel: 773-935-7080 ext. 205 Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 01/15/99]

25 years, 7 months

Computers for children

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 11:37 PM 1/14/99 -0800, you wrote: >I've never seen a "BY" modifier although I wouldn't doubt that some BASIC >could have been designed with it. But are you sure you didn't mean >"STEP"? Okay, so I've been doing COBOL too long... 8^) Yes, in BASIC it's STEP. Same idea as COBOL's BY option. (In COBOL it would be PERFORM VARYING variable BY inc FROM start UNTIL variable IS GREATER THAN end (I think -- it's not a common usage of the Perform verb.)) >and while loops (I rarely use for's), but C really suffers from a lack of >a general error trapping mechanism that one can invoke to break out of >loops as required. Sometimes I think goto's are the answer but I can >never find an appropriate way to implement it. errflag := 0 /* is it := in C to assign a value? */ DO WHILE variable < end AND errflag = 0 { do stuff variable++ /* I think that increments a variable */ IF error THEN errflag := 1 ENDIF LOOP IF errflag = 1 THEN do error processing ENDIF No, I'm not a C programmer (nor do I play one on TV). --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

25 years, 7 months

Merced - and the ol' Unix story (was Re: OT, but info needed: RAM uprade)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 16, 8:22, Ward Donald Griffiths III wrote: > Subject: Re: Merced - and the ol' Unix story (was Re: OT, but info needed > Doug wrote: > > > ObCC: Around 1980 or so, I knew somebody with a license plate that said > > "Unix: Live Free or Die". Was this issued by Bell Labs? And who has one > > they'd like to sell? > > That was DEC, when they were first plugging Ultrix. DEC may have done so, but they originally came from Armando Stettner, one of the early Unix developers, at one of the unix conferences. I don't think Ultrix goes quite as far back as 1980? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 7 months

Kaypros and Osbornes

by joebar＠microsoft.com

Are Osbornes really that much harder to find than Kaypros? eBay currently seems awash in Kaypros for under $30... - Joe

25 years, 7 months

Commodore 1541 on ebay for $8500.00

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 20:37, jpero(a)cgocable.net wrote: > Subject: Re: Commodore 1541 on ebay for $8500.00 > Date sent: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:35:25 -0800 > Send reply to: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> > To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Commodore 1541 on ebay for $8500.00 > > > Hey, that's impressive. By default my e-mail program which can handle this > > garbage displayed a blank screen. Simply put people, _PLEASE_ use plain > > text. I'm quoting the garbage so you can see the garbage you're sending. > > 34 lines of crap for 1 line of message, that's MicroSlop for you. > > > > Zane > > Now I don't waste on this and they get killed on sight unread. > > Jason D. That's exactly what I do, and I suspect that many other readers do the same. It's not even good HTML -- with all those font and colour requirements that many systems couldn't honour. Like Zane, I use a mail reader that can handle MIME, but it often fails on the bad HTML and/or screwy MIME-types that some messages contain. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 7 months

formatting gunk [Re: Commodore 1541 on ebay for $8500.00]

by joebar＠microsoft.com

>Erm, are you speaking mailer as in mail *client* or mail *server*. If mail >client, there should be a setting that states "Never send HTML." Mailer client. A pre-pre-release version of Outlook Express 5. There is such a setting, but it gets ignored (apparently) when replying to an HTML message. Feel free to keep beating this dead horse. I'm sure everyone else on this list cares. A lot. - Joe

25 years, 7 months

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test-drb January 1999