At 12:17 AM 8/19/98 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
>
>I am also now the proud owner of an SGI 4D/380 (and most of another
>4D/380). Physically it is in very good shape, but apparently it is quite
>sick. 8 processors, buckets of SIMMs, neeto graphics, but the best thing
>is the "CPU Power Meter" on the front of the cabinet...
>Does anyone have IRIX on 1/4" tape?
With SGI, you're dealing with a (barely? :-) still existent company.
You're supposed to buy IRIX, not copy it. On the other hand, is
there any evidence that an IRIX license was transferred to you
as part of the deal on this machine? Buying a second SGI box that
comes with a license will be cheaper than buying it from SGI. :-)
Ask the experts on news at comp.sys.sgi.*.
- John
> Hi William,
> Do you have a URL for the RetroComputing Society? I'm in South
> Central PA. Maybe I could make it down some time.
Try <http://osfn.org/rcs/>.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 17:00:56 -0700 you said to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
cl>YES YES YES!!!!!! *Jumps about and throws mouse at floor like
cl>football* Oops...
cl>At any rate, I am now successfully logged into the MicroVax II as
cl>SYSTEM!
cl>Thanks to all who helped me out! Now if I just had documentation
cl>other than the built-in HELP database.
cl>Basically, now what I'd like to do is get some assistance (in
cl>private email if it's more appropriate) to make a full backup of
cl>the system so that I can feel safer playing around with it.
For VMS documentation try the links at
http://vaxarchive.ml.org/swdoc/vms/vms_doc.shtml
This is a list of a great deal of VMS documentation available online.
Basically you first create a Standalone Backup tape, which is bootable
tape needed to backup a system disk and restore a backup to a blank hard
disk, and then you boot from this tape and do the backup.
Boot VMS from the hard disk and enter these commands to create the
standalone backup:
$ SET DEFAULT SYS$UPDATE
$ @STABACKIT
The program asks for the name of the device the kit is to be built on,
usually this is MUA0:
To back up the system, boot from the tape with
>>> B/E0000000 MUA0:
When the prompt appears, enter the command:
$ BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY DUA0: MUA0:FULLBACK.BCK/REWIND/LABEL=AUG19
This assumes you are backing up the first hard disk on the first disk
controller to the first tape drive on the first tape drive controller.
Kees
--
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Sysadmin and DEC PDP/VAX preservationist - http://vaxarchive.ml.org
Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered
< Was DEC's EDT text editor ever `ported to any non-DEC platforms, such a
< PCs or unixes? It is still my favorite text and program editor, and I'
< love to have on on some of my "everyday" machines.
No. I do use VEDIT for CP/M configured to use the EDT keypad and function
very similar. It allows me the full screen modes via keypad and also
command line (change) using TECO macros.
Thre are versions (predeccessor) to EDT that run on PDP-11 under RT-11,
RSTS and RSX11.
Allison
allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) wrote:
> < http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=25437342
Well, that's Allison quoting me. I'd been nosing through eBay to see
what else there was to fuss over and noticed someone put up a big lot
of parts for a low price and u-pick-up in Arlington, MA. Thought it
might be of interest to someone out that way as repair parts.
Where folks find time to go through eBay listings is what I wonder.
-Frank McConnell
Hmmm... Is the 4046 the SCSI Floppy Disk/Hard Disk rack mountable unit?
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 11:55 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Re: Minor Tektronix success story.
>
>
> I just picked up a Tektronix 4041 computer. I think it's a general
> purpose HP-IB instrument controller similar to a HP 9915.
> How close is it
> to your 4052? I HAD a Tektronix 4046 disk drive unit for
> the 4041 a few
> months ago but I traded it off (A_ S___!) Does anyone know
> anything about
> the keybaords for the 4041? It uses a strange 4 pin
> connector. I've heard
> that you can operate them from a terminal. Does anyone know
> anything about
> this?
>
> Joe
>
> At 07:14 PM 8/17/98 GMT, you wrote:
> >A minor success story compared with some I read here, but I
> wanted to
> >share it with you...
> >
> >This weekend I finally got my Tektronix 4052 graphics
> computer loading
> >and saving on a Commodore 8050 disk drive. The problems:
> >
> >Commodore's weird handling of IEEE-488 protocol, especially
> with OPEN
> >and CLOSE. This requires bit 7 (the 128s bit) to be set
> when sending a
> >secondary address; bit 4 - usually the 16s bit of the
> address - tells
> >the drive whether it's an open or a close.
> >
> >This was easily solved - the Tektronix WBYTE statement gives full
> >control over such things.
> >
> >But the Tek is designed as a tape based machine. You FIND a
> file on the
> >tape and type OLD to load it. The machine then resets and loads the
> >program.
> >
> >On a disk, you WBYTE @40,240: some bytes to specify the file
> name. But
> >if you type OLD @8,0: it asserts IFC during the reset, thus
> causing the
> >drive to have forgotten all about your program by the time
> it comes to
> >load it...
> >
> >So I toyed with the idea of cutting the IFC line in a
> suitable cable.
> >But then I came across the APPEND statement. "APPEND @I/O
> address:line
> >number" loads a program without resetting, renumbering it to
> start at
> >the specified line. Neat.
> >
> >So I now have a program to display the directory of the
> disk, prompt you
> >for a filename and APPEND the file on the end of itself. It then
> >performs an INIT (initialise variables, IFC and things) and
> drops into
> >the program.
> >
> >Saving is easier, so less automated. You type something like
> >WBYTE @40,241:48,58,80,82,79,71,82,65,77,32,78,65,77,69,-13
> >WBYTE @63:
> >SAVE @8,1
> >WBYTE @40,225,63:
> >
> >Not perfect, but it works. If anyone has an 8050 at the VCF, I'll
> >happily demonstrate!
> >
> >Now, has anyone got a PET hard drive? And, for that matter,
> has anyone
> >got a MUPET system for sale?
> >
> >Philip.
> >
> >
>
A guy in Sweden put 4mb and a uVaxII and some MFM (RQDX?) in one
< with no problem and some serious wire wrap work.
<
< I don't think it's impossible -- especially with a reworked
< power supply.
Sorta agrees with what I said.
I looked at my Vt100 and it would be possible to shoehorn a set of VS2000
boards power supply and a disk into the VT100 case. It's easier to sit it
on top. ;)
Allison
> With all the DEC enthusiasts here, maybe someone can help:
>
> Was DEC's EDT text editor ever `ported to any non-DEC platforms, such as
> PCs or unixes? It is still my favorite text and program editor, and I'd
> love to have on on some of my "everyday" machines.
You might want to look into JED - it has EDT keymaps available, as well
as Wordstar and Emacs. It runs nicely on Unixes, and Win95 ports seem to
be happening as well. It's available at:
ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/jed/
You'll also need the Slang library, available at
ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slang/
Slrn and Most, also available at that site, are my favorite newsreader
and pager, respectively. I haven't used Jed as much.
--
Ben Coakley http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu
CBEL: Xavier OH, Season 15 champions CMEL: Xavier
>With all the DEC enthusiasts here, maybe someone can help:
>Was DEC's EDT text editor ever `ported to any non-DEC platforms, such as
>PCs or unixes? It is still my favorite text and program editor, and I'd
>love to have on on some of my "everyday" machines.
Yes, there have been several ports of EDT. By far the most complete -
and the most expensive - is Boston Business Computing's. Everything
that is in real EDT is in BBC's EDT. See http://www.bbc.com/ for details.
There are several less worthy emulations, that do a pretty good job
of emulating EDT's CHANGE (ala "full-screen") mode but which don't
even attempt to emulate non-keypad or line modes. In particular,
an emulation package for EMACS falls into this category, as well as
the shareware JED.
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