I need a manual or a decent copy of one and any other available info on the
Iomega ALPHA-10 SCSI removable disk drive. Nothing at the Iomega website,
just the newer stuff.
Thanks, Chris
-- --
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: 22 July 1998 19:00
Subject: Re: Idiots
>On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Max Eskin wrote:
>
>> While we're on this subject, are stupid lawsuits as common in UK
>> and other countries as the US?
>>
>> ______________________________________________________
>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>It is my understanding that in UK the loser pays all legal costs which
>tends to discourage filing frivolous suits.
No, this is no the case.
I know personaly of a case where the victim lost more in expenses bringing
the case to court than the offender was eventually fined for the offence.
It's all a bit backward in the UK I'm afraid.
Compensation for serious injury is a complete joke.
We have murderers released from prison after serving only half of their
sentance.
So, while I laugh at the "My neighbour pulled a nasty face at my cat" type
lawsuits in the US. I do feel that the system in the UK is grossly unfair in
the opposite way, with the victims of crime rarely receiving justice.
Sie
Hello List-ites....
I have a question for the non-RT11-impaired among us:
I am attempting (sporadically) to get an 11/34a back in it's
original shape, when it ran a Hollywood audio company's accounting
and sales functions. It had two RK05s and several software packages
running under MACRO, Unix, and USCD pSystem Pascal.
Right now only one of the drives is hooked up, set to drive '0'.
It will boot and run the UCSD stuff and it will boot RT-11(V2.0)....
except that, in 7 out of the 7 packs with RT-11.... it is as if KMON
was missing or damaged; it boots up to the dot prompt and then
returns the ?ILL? message no matter which command I give it. I have
RT-11(V5.0) on my 11/73 and it is fully functional, so I have had
some cursory (N.P.I.) experience with the OS.
I am at another one of those self-teaching impasses.. I can't do
much more with the system the way it is... sigh.
Has anyone any ideas? Magic words? Mystery switches? Or should I
just chuck this wretched humiliating heavy loud time-consuming
suppossed-to-be-a-fun-toy..... sorry. Time for my meds again. I'm
fine now... quite calm actually.
help.
Cheers.....
John
PS: Anyone found a junk Kennedy 9300 tape machine whose vacuum
column door is in good shape... I *need* one real bad....
J
>> That's dead, I'll replace it. Should I also change the black bar-
>> shaped 7.5 v cell? It's dead too, and I don't know what it's for.
>
> I'm not sure if the 7.5V bettery is required for the machine to power
> up, on the other hand, it wasn't _designed_ to be dead, so it can do no
> harm to replace it.
It isn't required. Replacing mine did no good (ie powered up but didn't
retain all settings, with old or new battery). New ones, being NiCd,
are supplied fully discharged anyway.
Philip.
>> This one I must agree with. Thank god I had some metric phillips
>> drivers to turn those Torx screws!!!
>> >You forgot one category: Most difficult to open. The last LTE I tried
>> to
>> >open required the skill of a surgeon to dissassemble.
Phillips driver to turn a Torx screw? Shame on you! Flat bladed much
more effective provided you select the correct width ;-)
> Since when does the use of Torx screws make something difficult to
> dismantle? They're a lot better than the crosspoint (Phillips, Pozidriv,
> etc) screws, which almost seem to be designed to cause the driver to
> 'cam out' when you try to shift them.
>
> Dismantling is easy, anyway. It's getting it back together that's
> interesting...
Dismantling the LTE-lite 20 is not easy. For those who wish to have a
go:
1. Find the four obvious screws at the back of the case. Make sure
they are properly done up :-) Don't undo them! If you do you will
cause permanent damage.
2. Remove battery. Screwdriver inside battery compartment will pop
some of the clips that hold the top cover off.
3. Work around the edges, using additional force at the front corners,
until top cover fully popped. Then fold screen right back and lift off
cover.
4. Next undo the screw that holds the display cable in place (for cable
read flexible pcb) and unplug said cable.
5. Then and only then can you undo the four screws at the back, and
detach the screen.
Thereafter, fairly obvious. All the screws are Torx 9, except for a few
very small phillips in the display...
If you start by undoing the obvious screws, you will tear the display
cable, and it costs around 30 pounds to replace. Compaq don't sell to
the general public. but will tell you the names of dealers who do.
(Guess how I found that out!)
Philip.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
Subject: Re: Idiots
Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 7/22/98 2:09 PM
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: 22 July 1998 19:00
Subject: Re: Idiots
>On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Max Eskin wrote:
>
>> While we're on this subject, are stupid lawsuits as common in UK
>> and other countries as the US?
>>
>> ______________________________________________________
>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
>It is my understanding that in UK the loser pays all legal costs which
>tends to discourage filing frivolous suits.
No, this is no the case.
I know personaly of a case where the victim lost more in expenses bringing
the case to court than the offender was eventually fined for the offence.
It's all a bit backward in the UK I'm afraid.
Compensation for serious injury is a complete joke.
We have murderers released from prison after serving only half of their
sentance.
So, while I laugh at the "My neighbour pulled a nasty face at my cat" type
lawsuits in the US. I do feel that the system in the UK is grossly unfair in
the opposite way, with the victims of crime rarely receiving justice.
Sie
------ Message Header Follows ------
Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu by smtp.itgonline.com
(PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9i(b5) for Windows NT(tm))
id AA-1998Jul22.140944.1767.52719; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:09:45 -0400
Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13])
by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP
id LAA17437; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:07:29 -0700
Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7])
by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP
id LAA71130 for <classiccmp(a)lists.u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998
11:07:25 -0700
Received: from rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch
[139.79.129.1])
by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP
id LAA11798 for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:07:23
-0700
Received: from ens.ascom.ch (chieftain.ens.ascom.ch [139.79.60.1])
by rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA29648
for <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:07:16 +0200 (MET DS
T)
Received: from htva03 (htva03.ens.ascom.ch) by ens.ascom.ch
(4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI-7.0.1)
id AA09613; Wed, 22 Jul 98 20:08:47 +0200
Message-Id: <006f01bdb5a3$fb1fbda0$96a14f8b(a)htva03.ens.ascom.ch>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 20:07:32 +0100
Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Sender: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu
Precedence: bulk
From: "Sie Raybould" <sie(a)systemfile.demon.co.uk>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Idiots
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-To: <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
X-Priority: 3
X-Msmail-Priority: Normal
X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN
> Generally I'd agree, but in the case of the DEC VR201 I was challenged
< > It took me some 2 hrs. and I was ready to rip the case off before I fina
< > figured out that "that interesting little button on the rear" concealed
< > screw that held it all together. I think some fine art students on peyot
< > must have designed that case. It is unique I will admit.
< >
< > ciao larry
< > lwalker(a)interlog.com
While the VT100 case was easy to open the legal climate changed and easy
to open meant users (meaning idiots) should open it and hurt themselves
so they could sue. Screws like that oen in the VR200 and also others were
meant as a legal dodge as if you went through all the trouble to open that
you were delberate and if anything bad happnes it's on your head not DECs.
As some oen involved in the design process we always had to banance easy
to open with should it be openable at all. I know I was around DEC from
83->93 and worked with the corperate safety folks. You would not believe
the stories we would share...
Allison
Tony ended his long discourse on telephones with:
> In practice, you're not going to damage the exchange no matter what you do
> to the line at the subscriber end. The incoming lines are protected by an
> array of spark gaps (probably gas filled), fuses and 'heat coils'. The old
> electromechanical exchanges were certainly protected against lightening,
> contact between telephone lines and (600V-ish) power lines, etc. Mains, at
> the far end of the line, is trivial in comparison.
ISTR that at our sites (electricity supply industry) we have to install
special isolators on phone lines if the rise in local earth potential
due to an earth fault exceeds 650V. Such sites are known as "hot
sites". The implication is, anything less than 650V to ground the
exchange can cope with. Besides, I think the limiting factor is safety
of engineers working at exchanges...
Philip.
While we're on this subject, are stupid lawsuits as common in UK
and other countries as the US?
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
