test-drb June 1998

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In 10+ years... Was: Re: "No name" S-100 computer

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

At 10:30 AM 6/29/98 -0400, Chris wrote: >Keep an eye on this list as I would imagine (and hope) it will be still >existing in some sort of form 10+ years from now. (Let's not go into the >depths of speculation as to how exactly this list will still exist. Who >knows exactly? If it indeed does not, by following it we will see its >evolution toward whatever its destiny) During that period anyway, I would >think either you would gain collecting relationships with others here and >find someone you feel comfortable with selling/passing it to, discover >museums who actually are interested in preserving "homebrew" or no-name >machines or even find some other worthwhile destination. > >Incidentally, I think you meant by the statement above, >">... I know no one personally that has >>these "old" computer interests except maybe the speculator type, only this >>list." >that you mean _two_ _separate_ types of groups: speculators and us on this >list? ;) > Yes, you are correct, I was referring to 2 groups. I know no one in person on this list yet. This is much less clear for old radios where the dealers or resellers seem to way outnumber the collectors interested in the history or technology or the builders or repairers. Look at the prices now for the first transistor radios.. >>For old radios I can consider the AWA museum.. -Dave

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Reading PALs

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, Though perhaps not strictly on-topic, is there any way to read PALs, short of buying a hugely expensive "universal" device programmer? I have several things that have PALs in, and I want to read them somehow to help me figure out how they work. On a slightly different subject, has anyone written a program to dump the BIOS of an old (or new, I guess) PC to disk? -- Mark

25 years, 10 months

mitsubishi laptop problems

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

a friend essentially gave me a mitsubishi MP286L which is a 286 laptop. it has a phoenix bios, but is posting with a bios checksum error. it will boot off a floppy however. i think i hear a hard drive spin up, but is not being recognized. i cannot remember how to get to the setup utility and aol's browser is unusable to search with. any ideas? david

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Price guidelines... (DEC in particular at the moment)

by jfedorko＠virtualadmin.com

Hi folks, I've got a guy with a DECServer 5000 (no Ultrix media, not allot of specifics on memory etc at the moment) with "best offer" pricing. Is there a resource around (besides used gear dealer pages) with perhaps at least "scrap" value of systems? Thanks.

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Phoenix area collectors?

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

I got this request from someone who visited the Vintage Computer Festival web pages. Heads up Phoenix area collectors. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:29:08 -0700 From: Richard Miller <dkmiller(a)microarch.com> Are there any other members/collectors in the Phoenix area? I would enjoy getting together with other collectors. Richard Miller

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Overhyped Innovations (was Re: OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

heh, i remember everyone was decrying the system requirements. 486 and 8 meg recommended. i only had a cursory look at it, and seemed lame from the start by having a cheezy cartoon dog tell you what to do! of course, they've continued that legacy with the paper clip help in ms office. just give me regular F1 help and i'm happy. of course, if i could find a copy, i would keep it along with my other failed collector's items like my pcjr and apple ///. david In a message dated 98-06-29 15:54:46 EDT, you write: [BOB] << It was too cutesy for adults to use and too insulting to the kids. It assumed a lobotomized user, had a very slow and clumsy interface, crashed a lot, and flopped horribly in the marketplace. And yes, Bill married the project lead behind Bob. Ugh. ca. 1993 I believe. ok r. >>

25 years, 10 months

old AOL disks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 98-06-29 16:54:35 EDT, doug yowza put forth: << I don't know about that, but I think the first AOL client was a GEOS program. I've got a copy running on my GRiDPAD 2390 (aka Zoomer) that says (C) 1993, and has no version number. (Don't ask me for a copy. Besides copyright issues, it would require that I figure out which GEOS runtime components are needed). >> well, aol 1.5 was based on the geos runtime kernel, but didnt require geos. david

25 years, 10 months

Info wanted: Digital RZ23 SCSI Drive

by higginbo＠netpath.net

I've got two Digital RZ23 3.5" SCSI drives I'd like to find some more info on. I basically need the specs (cylinder, head, size, etc.) and jumper settings. Anyone got anything? I think the original manufacturer was Conner. It also has the model number 3100D, which I think is a Conner drive. - - john higginbotham ____________________________ - webmaster www.pntprinting.com - - limbo limbo.netpath.net -

25 years, 10 months

old AOL disks

by tomowad＠earthlink.net

>Any version before 3.0 for the PC. BTW, when >was AOL 1.0 released? Wasn't AOL PC Link before? A program called >QuantumLink came with my Commodore a few years ago, and when I called >the tech number to see if they're still around, I was forwarded to AOL. AOL was the company created by the combination of Applelink and some Commodore BBS, most likely the QuantumLink you mentioned. Steve Case was CEO of the Commodore BBS and became CEO of AOL. For quite some time, about half of AOL's subscribers were Apple II and Mac users. Of course, AOL discontinued Apple II support quite some time ago (I know some guys who are still sour about this). I better stop typing now, otherwise I'll get off on a rant about how AOL is always dropping services on the sly and backstabbing their customers. Tom Owad (former user of America Online, now Sysop of Caesarville Online) -- Sysop of Caesarville Online Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>

25 years, 10 months

OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, allisonp(a)world.std.com (Allison J Parent) wrote: ] <I class that as a micro, but I don't know if others would. ] ] 11/23 was called a micro by it's vendor DEC! What could be more official ] than that. Also the LSI-11 (KD-11). Ah, but according to DEC, it's not even a computer, it's a Progammable Data Processor, right? :-) ] Allison Bill.

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