test-drb June 1998

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OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was Macintosh

by franke＠sbs.de

>>Apart from the ST, which has already been mentioned : >>BBC Micro, Acorn Archimedes, many older portables (Tandy 100, HP110, HP71 >>and HP75 (almost), EPSON PX4 and PX8), there was a model of the Tandy >>1000 with MS-DOS in ROM, one of the Torch machines had a CP/M a-like in >>ROM, HP IPC, Tandy CoCo + disk controller (maybe this only counts as >>Basic in ROM), and plenty more that I've forgotten about > I belive Apple's Newtons have the OSes in ROM. They certainly do boot > quickly and a chip swap is need to upgrade the OS. Yes, but the boot is quite slow. My MP2k needs something like 40 seconds to boot.. Gruss H. (fyi MPs normaly never boot - only at first power up or reset - they just sleep all the time :) -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

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MicroVAX III Memory

by kyrrin＠jps.net

Fellow DEC'ers, I've come across a KA650 (MV-III) CPU board. As near as I can tell from comparing the pinouts of its memory connector vs. the MV-II memory boards I have, it uses specific memory boards of its own. 1). Anyone got any MV-III memory for sale/trade? 2). Failing that, is it at all possible, however messy, to modify MV-II memory to work? Thanks in advance. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

26 years

Inventory Control (was Re: "No name" S-100 computer)

by franke＠sbs.de

> On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Tony Duell wrote: >> I've passed an inventory of my collection to some serious collectors in >> the UK. They know that if I cease to be, they are to find all the >> machines on that list (at least). The problem is that many of the >> machines are partially dismantled, and that it's not obvious that the >> large cardboard box of PCBs downstairs goes with the pile of metal panels >> in the spare bedroom to make an image processor/display. > I'm pretty new to the collecting game, but I'm already having trouble > keeping machines, parts, software, manuals, and releated stuff tractable. > I've picked-up some barcode reading equipment with the idea that one day > I'll encode the contents of all of my boxes, and tie it to all together > with a database that include historical info, condition info, and other > notes. > Has anybody already done something like this? If so, can I steal your > scheme? Yep - I'm just start to build up my database with a bar code system as anchor for machine identification and tracking. The Base equipment is a Apple MessagePad 2000 (best thing ever build by appe - AND, thanks to SJ now a oop classic :) with a laser bar code scanner - all machinedate are stored in a cusom programm. Maybe I could changee to leverage or a similar standard database system. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK

26 years

Price guidelines... (DEC in particular at the moment)

by kyrrin＠jps.net

At 00:26 30-06-98 -0400, you wrote: >Hi folks, > >I've got a guy with a DECServer 5000 (no Ultrix media, not allot of >specifics on memory etc at the moment) >with "best offer" pricing. Is there a resource around (besides used gear >dealer pages) with perhaps at >least "scrap" value of systems? Don't know if it's any help, but I bought my last DECStation 5000, with a 17" color monitor, for $25.00... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin(a)jps.net) "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

26 years

ProcTech CUTS tape & VAX 6000 SCSI interface & DC-600A tapes

by bobstek＠ix6.ix.netcom.com

If anyone else is having difficulty contacting me, my address is bobstek(a)ix.netcom.com (Netcom must dynamically assign the @ix??.netcom.com somehow) Bob Stek

26 years

Price guidelines... (DEC in particular at the moment)

by mbg＠world.std.com

>I've got a guy with a DECServer 5000 (no Ultrix media, not allot of Probably a Decstation 5000, if it runs Ultrix. >specifics on memory etc at the moment) with "best offer" pricing. Is I recently received two in trade for a uVaxIII cpu board and 16mb memory board. >there a resource around (besides used gear dealer pages) with perhaps at >least "scrap" value of systems? I've also seen them offered for anywhere between $25 and $240 depending on specific type (5000/25 vs. 5000/260) and on which newgroup it was offerred. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry(a)zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg(a)world.std.com | | Digital Equipment Corporation | | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

26 years

Info wanted: Digital RZ23 SCSI Drive

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 29, 18:09, Shawn Rutledge wrote: > Subject: Re: Info wanted: Digital RZ23 SCSI Drive > > I've got two Digital RZ23 3.5" SCSI drives I'd like to find some more info > > on. I basically need the specs (cylinder, head, size, etc.) and jumper > > settings. Anyone got anything? I used these settings in my format.dat file for a Sparcstation: ncyl = 772 ; acyl = 2 ; pcyl = 774 ; nhead = 8 ; nsect = 33 ; rpm =3600 The SCSI ID is set by three jumpers next to one of the large custom chips on the control board. The jumper nearest the edge of the board is ID0, the one nearest the chip is ID2. Jumper fitted = 1, unfitted = 0. I don't have any jumpers on other pins. There are some pins on the front, in a 14-pin connector. I can't remember what they all do except that the pair nearest the centre of the drive are for the LED. This drive doesn't spin up until given a Start Motor command, and the DEC firmware is different to the standard Connor firmware so there is no jumper setting to control this. > > I think the original manufacturer was Conner. It also has the model number > > 3100D, which I think is a Conner drive. It is. > And Conner was recently bought by Seagate, which has a pretty informative > web site. Try looking it up there. The diagrams there, for the "obvious" Connor equivalent, are mostly correct for the RZ23, IIRC. That's where I originally got most of the information, a couple of years ago. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

26 years

more random bits need new home

by pcoad＠ncal.verio.com

Due to the volume reduction act of 1998 I need to find homes for a few things which I can't use but others might find useful/interesting: 1.) Box of 8 inch floppies unknown condition: a.) digital software (BA-M386A-BA) WPS-8/DECMATE V2 BIN MATH RX2 b.) digital software (BA-M471A-BA) WPS-8/DECMATE V2 BIN SORT RX2 c.) digital software (BA-M470A-BA) WPS-8/DECMATE V2 BIN COMM RX2 d.) digital software (BA-M469A-BA) WPS-8/DECMATE V2 BIN LIST RX2 e.) digital software (BA-M387A-BA) WPS-8/DECMATE V2 BIN BASE RX2 f.) digital software (BA-S968B-MA) ALVTAB0 DECMATE SYSTEM TEST REPLACES: AS-S463A-MA g.) hand labeled intel "SA/FT/FMS Priam Interface, SMD Interface for updated byte/serial PCB's" h.) hand labeled Dysan "Backup of Priam test programs" The box is one of those that can be attached to others of the same type. Manual and labels for box included. Whoo-hoo. 2.) IIT 2C87 "Advanced Math CoProcessor". That's right, this is basicly a 80287 math coprocessor. This particular model is suitable for 10 MHz or slower 286 machines. The box is still shrink-wrapped if that turns you on. Includes free ComputerLand sticker on the side of the box. The box says that this "features a power-down sleep mode. In active mode it consumes 25% less power than other coprocessors." Speed up those 1-2-3 recalculations and floating point intensive tasks! 3.) MS-DOS 4.01 (ACBEL Technologies version). Includes box, 6 5.25" disks, 2 manuals (Microsoft MS-DOS User's Guide $ User's Reference and Microsoft MS-DOS Shell User's Guide). The box and manuals are black and white, but the disks are green. Go figure. 4.) Farallon PhoneNET nubus card. This one has AUI and 10BaseT connectors. It may work, it may not. I have no way to test it. 5.) Apple Ethernet nubus card, I believe. Has AUI connector without the funky slide locking device and a BNC connector. Connect your Mac II to your home network. Untested but big. Make me an offer. Trades of random old/cool/strange/small Sun stuff preferred, cash accepted. I don't expect much for these. Everything is As-is. The first person to make a deal for more than one item will get a free copy of "Inside the Amiga" by John Thomas Berry. Thanks, --pec -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Antique Computer Collection: http://www.wco.com/~pcoad/machines.html

26 years

OS's In ROM's (was: Re: Mac Classic prob (was

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Certainly my 11/83 is a micro/mini/as fast as an VAX-11/780 so I'm not su <whether its a micro/mini/super-mini :-) 11/83 is fast but it's still pdp-11 and VAX-11/780 was 32bit while raw MIPS the 83 is up there, addressing a 15meg database would clearly seperate the two. Allison

26 years

ProcTech CUTS tape & VAX 6000 SCSI interface & DC-600A tapes

by ddameron＠earthlink.net

Hi Bob and all, At 04:19 PM 6/29/98 -0700, you wrote: >If there are any ProcTech SOL owners out there, I have recently acquired >an old CUTS tape from PROTEUS, the Sol User's Program Library. Lots of >miscellaneous stuff. If you would like a copy, email your address, or send >me some stamps - whatever. > Yes, I'm interested in the CUTS tape. I've found the article on Newett Awl's "Choo Choo" for the VDM/Sol. Your idea of the CD as a program audio source sounds interesting, too. The email I sent was returned with a warning so far. Please give an estimate for the tape- duplication costs, etc. Is <bobstek(a)ix22.ix.netcom.com> correct? -Dave

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