>>Subject: UCSD Pascal
>>
>>Damn! I wish I'd known about your museum - last summer I helped clean
>>out the lab that had been Ken Bowles and we found a bunch of 8-inch stuff,
>>old tapes, etc. which were trashed because no one wanted them. I'll look
>>around here and see if there's anything left.
>
OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!
> this isn't really "classic" per se, but...
It's the classic Mac-IDE question.
And the answer is simple no.
> I grabbed a performa 636cd, w/ a 500mb ide drive. being curious i
> ripped out the 1-connector ide cable and connected a 2-connector; the
> mac ide quantum (which specifically says "apple" on it...) was set as
> master, and i popped a seagate on as a slave. no boot unless i popped in
> the mac disk tools. if i take off the 2nd ide drive, it boots. being a
> total mac idiot, is it even possible to use a ATA ide drive on a mac? or
> is there something else to this that i'm missing? any help would be
> gratefully appreciated. thanks.
Yes_and_no to all questions. It's just that Apple only suports
one _one_ IDE drive. Almost any drive work correctly, but you
need third party setup software like HDT.
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
At 12:35 AM 6/25/98 -0500, Uncle Roger wrote:
>Mac IIx - 68030?
>Mac IIfx
>Mac IIvx (iirc)
I'm not sure about the IIvx either, but I do have a Mac IIx sitting here.
Main difference was just a little boost on the proc speed over the Mac II.
Question: Will any nubus card work in any mac with a nubus slot? (I'm
talking standard form, one piece card, not the little two piece connected
jobbies found on the SI/LC etc.)
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At 10:54 PM 6/24/98 EDT, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote:
>there are only two kinds of mac mouses: 9 pin for plus and earlier and adb
for
>se and later models. i've never heard of anything else. as for slow booting,
Offtopic by about 10 years:
We just got in a Motorola 603e StarMax mac clone a few months ago at work.
I loved this machine! It had both ADB connectors AND PS/2 style connectors.
It also had a standard DB25 serial port connector on it. IMHO, this would
have been a good step for Apple to make say about 5 or 6 years ago.
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- john higginbotham ____________________________
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there are only two kinds of mac mouses: 9 pin for plus and earlier and adb for
se and later models. i've never heard of anything else. as for slow booting,
you might want to run disk first aid if you have it on your machine. i think
you need to boot off a floppy and run it from there for it to check and fix
any problems it finds. those two buttons you found is the programmer's switch.
one does a reboot and the other brings you to a system monitor prompt.
supposedly useful for those that know what to do.
david
In a message dated 98-06-24 21:43:32 EDT, megan writes:
<< Speaking of Mac Mice... At the MIT Flea this past weekend, I picked up
a mouse for the Mac Classic I mentioned in other mail... it is the
'original' style of apple mouse. My question is whether this will work
correctly with the Mac Classic -- it does seem to plug in, but since I'm
not getting much response from the system, I don't know...
BTW - another question -- when the Mac Classic boots, it shows the smiley
disk and I hear the internal HD working. The screen goes light grey with
a pointer on it. This is displayed for a few seconds and then I get the
'Welcome to Macintosh' screen. This remains this way for as much as 10
minutes (I didn't wait longer). Is this normal? Have I simply not
allowed the system adequate time to boot to a user screen? (I'm used to
an RT system which boots in about 30-45 seconds, depending on amount of
memory).
Also, there are two buttons on the left side of the case... one apparently
does the mac equivalent of the three-fingered-salute on PCs... the other
one causes the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen to go away and be replaced
by one which lookes the same (banner background) but with a '>' sign...
What is this?
>>
At 02:40 PM 6/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>about it. But we invest time and money and passion into this hobby, and I
>don't think its wrong to take advantage of a good deal when one comes
In the long run, it probably offsets the times we spend more than we should
to make sure something important isn't destroyed (including paying for
storage units, etc.)
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
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At 10:43 PM 6/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I'll trade it for an Altair and an Apple 1 and most importantly, one of
those rare
>black AppleIIplus's.
Oh sure, I gots lots of those... 8^)
>What the heck is a FlatCat (uh oh, me thinks I just set myself up here).
Laptop version of the Cat.
>It doesn't have cursor keys, or a pointing device. It uses these two
'leap' keys
Yeah, that's it. Pretty cool.
>Let me know when you get the Apple 1 and I'll dig the Cat out and send it to
>you :)
Ummm,, you don't mind if there's a little bit of white-out spilled next to
where it says "Apple ]" do you? 8^)
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
Who do I have to kill?
Are they so black you can see your reflection in them? :)
Grant..
Software Engineer, Hitec Aberdeen.
Kevan Heydon <kevan(a)heydon.org> on 06/26/98 04:47:49 PM
Please respond to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
cc:
Subject: Re: NeXT cubes or slabs.
Speaking of NeXTs, I have just got a lead on some available in the UK. The
mail I got is:
Unconfirmed reports are that I may be able to lay my hands on, like,
TWENTY NeXT slabs for the princely sum of 70 quid each. My mind
immediately turns to CamNet and the denizens within as sinks for such
wonderful but antique hardware. Note that if you want a 17" colour
monitor, then that is at the ultimate ripoff price of another 60 quid.
Both figures EXCLUDE VAT at the usual rate, apparently.
Machine specs are:
TurboColour NeXTStation.
68040/33 / 32MB / 500MB SCSI
+ Keyboard + Mouse + Soundbox. (as black as, like, the blackest thing -
none more black)
(1138x932@12bit)
Monitors:
NeXT MegaPixel Colour Monitors (Black cool case)
17" @ 60 quid
21" @ 150 quid
If you are interested then drop me an email and I will coordinate things
with the person I got this email from.
--
Kevan
Old Computer Collector: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/
Today I found the company, Techniques, Inc. in Englewood, New Jersey, that
made the printed circuit boards for the "Radio Electronics" Mark 8 computer.
They are in the same location as in 1973. Afaik, they have no web site
or email. I called them to ask if they could look for
any material, or any information, like how many board sets were made or sold.
I found nothing. They first thought that "Mark 8 microcomputer" was the name
of another company. I finally found someone who said the company was bought
in 1987, and that all information before then was gone.
I've also learned that the printed circuit boards were 2-sided, but had no
plated-thru holes. This may have caused problems to IC solder connections,
making reliability problems. I don't know if this would make buyers abandon
them making the numbers larger or smaller than otherwise.
-Dave
this isn't really "classic" per se, but...
I grabbed a performa 636cd, w/ a 500mb ide drive. being curious i
ripped out the 1-connector ide cable and connected a 2-connector; the
mac ide quantum (which specifically says "apple" on it...) was set as
master, and i popped a seagate on as a slave. no boot unless i popped in
the mac disk tools. if i take off the 2nd ide drive, it boots. being a
total mac idiot, is it even possible to use a ATA ide drive on a mac? or
is there something else to this that i'm missing? any help would be
gratefully appreciated. thanks.
-Eric
