At 10:16 PM 6/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> Woah, what's that all about? Something along the lines of "In a dark
>> future, a lone boy with the power of his trusty TANDY COCO saves the
>> galaxy from domination by the evil Q'OMMADOR Empire"? :)
Probably interactive fiction ala Zork etc. (Or possibly the kind where you
read a page, then at the bottom it says "If you try to negotiate with the
Q'Ommador Mneflug, turn to page 138. If you try to kill the Mneflug with
your Quoxicalt, turn to page 47. If you turn and run while waving your
appendages wildly, turn to page 302.")
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At 09:42 PM 6/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>'original' style of apple mouse. My question is whether this will work
DE-9 connector? Won't work with the classic. Ya need on with a round,
4-pin connector, about the size of a PS/2 keyboard connector.
>BTW - another question -- when the Mac Classic boots, it shows the smiley
>disk and I hear the internal HD working. The screen goes light grey with
>a pointer on it. This is displayed for a few seconds and then I get the
>'Welcome to Macintosh' screen.
So far so good. Sounds like the machine works.
>This remains this way for as much as 10
>minutes (I didn't wait longer). Is this normal? Have I simply not
Not normal at all. Most likely, you have a drive with a missing or
incomplete operating system on it. Your best bet is to find a local Mac
user group (or friendly mac user) and get them to make a copy of the OS
disks (v. 7.0 or 6.0.8). You can then boot from those disks and reinstall
the OS.
>allowed the system adequate time to boot to a user screen? (I'm used to
>an RT system which boots in about 30-45 seconds, depending on amount of
>memory).
The Mac should do about the same, again depending on the amount of memory
and the number of plug-ins it loads.
>one causes the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen to go away and be replaced
>by one which lookes the same (banner background) but with a '>' sign...
Debugger. Dunno any more than that, I'm an applications programmer. 8^)
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Got a call from a woman with a Pet 2001 here in the bay area (east bay,
actually) plus some sloppy drives and such. Please give her a call if
you're interested. Her name is Asale Kimaada (Pronounced Uh-saw-luh
Kih-mah-duh) and her phone is 1-925-606-7239. She's looking for an honest
offer. She doesn't know what it's worth, (neither do I) but doesn't want
to be cheated. She apparently gets a lot of older stuff in, so being fair
would be good in the long run.
btw, she was at last year's VCF; she was near the exhibits on the left side
(looking towards the exhibits) iirc.
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At 12:32 PM 6/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't suppose that anyone (Xerox?) taped this presentation did they? I
know I
>would love to see the demo and wouldn't mind paying to get a copy.
The guard I talked to said tapes would be available for $50/copy.
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At 10:07 AM 6/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>The Star presentation was certainly well attended -- it was packed to
>overflowing! I was out in the lobby watching the presentation on a
When we got there, the guard was (rather ineffectively) trying to turn
people away. We slipped past after I mumbled something about trying to
find some friends. The guard said the demo was originally scheduled for a
room that could handle 100 people.
His estimate was that there was at least 700 people there, but I don't
think he was counting the cafeteria in that estimate.
>Uncle Roger tried to make me hold up a classiccmp sign, I tried
[...]
> and date as Roger now wants to check and see whether his tap
> dancing lessons collide.
Oh, sure, make me sound like a complete weirdo. (Yes, I know it's true,
but you don't have to tell everybody. 8^) Btw, tap class is Fridays at 7,
so Thursdays are good.
>(c) So...fine, here's a time and place for all us Bay Areans to
> argue over: Second Thursday, 09 July 1998, 7:00 PM, El Paso Cafe,
> 1407 W El Camino Real, Mountain View. Y'all can flame me about
Can't guarantee I'll be there, but it sounds good in theory.
btw, Bruce Lane (iirc -- I'm lousy at names and don't pay too much
attention to headers & .sigs anyway) will be in town (SF) soon, if y'all
wanna try and coordinate something. (Also a visit to HMR is in order.)
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Ha. You think that you're funny, don't you?
At my ex-school, I fount 30(!) Apple ][GS's, a ][C, A WHOLE BUNCH of
books, around 250 disks, lots of lab interface software, Grapler interfaces,
etc. Pretty cool.
Tim D. Hotze
-----Original Message-----
From: kroma <kroma(a)worldnet.att.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Loss of early UCSD P-System materials...
>
>>>Subject: UCSD Pascal
>>>
>>>Damn! I wish I'd known about your museum - last summer I helped clean
>>>out the lab that had been Ken Bowles and we found a bunch of 8-inch
stuff,
>>>old tapes, etc. which were trashed because no one wanted them. I'll look
>>>around here and see if there's anything left.
>>
>
>
>
>OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!
>
>
>
>BTW - another question -- when the Mac Classic boots, it shows the
>smiley disk and I hear the internal HD working. The screen goes >light
grey with a pointer on it. This is displayed for a few seconds >and
then I get the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen. This remains this >way
for as much as 10 minutes (I didn't wait longer). Is this >normal?
Definitely not. Try starting with extensions off (hold down the shift
key up until it shows that screen). Normal boot on a Classic should be
under a minute.
>Also, there are two buttons on the left side of the case... one
>apparently does the mac equivalent of the three-fingered-salute on
>PCs... the other one causes the 'Welcome to Macintosh' screen to go
>away and be replaced by one which lookes the same (banner background)
>but with a '>' sign...
>
>What is this?
>
You're right about the salute, the second one is a debug button. The >
sign is a prompt, at which you can look at memory and stuff. Typing 'G
FIND' will jump to the finder if it is running, which it isn't yet on
your system. The finder is a shell like command.com. It is completely
modular and can be replaced by another program, though not common. BTW,
how much did you pay for it?
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:39:03 -0700
From: Nathan Schwartz <nathan(a)apl.acsc.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib(a)library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RS6000
IBM RS6000 for sale
http://www.acsc.net/apl/rs6000.htm
The Anderson Public Library has an RS6000 that we are interested in
selling.
This system was purchased from Dynix Library Services in 1991 and has the
following features. RS6000 RISC 520/20 processor, AIX 3.3, 2.4Gigs on four
drives, 128Meg RAM, 2-64 port controllers, 2.3Gig 8mm Tape, 150MB 1/4
tape,
Ethernet High Performance LAN Adapter, IBM Printer 4224, Emerson UPS
AP130sb, Muxes, cables and documentation.
$4,000 O.B.O.
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>>It certainly has been (and will continue to be) for me...
>>But seriously, since my workshop isn't open to the public, and almost
>>nobody knows who I am, where should %random_person go to find out
>>about real front panels, forerunners of Windows, etc. If not a science
>>museum, then where?
> The local public library. Get a comfy chair, sit in front of the
> terminal, call up lynx, get a hotmail account, and subscribe to the
> mailing list. Of course, if the library has some back issues of computer
> magazines or computer history books, those never hurt either ;) A museum
> is generally considered to be a 'fun place' and though it is possible
> to learn quite a bit, they can't beat reading a good book (though they
> are a visual compendium).
Hmm I think you should come to Munich and visit the Deutsches
Museum. A slow walk thru the chemical section (for example)
could tell you the same story than a book, but you will also
_see_ whats hapening when two chemicals mix up. You still have
to read - there is plenty of text ro read - sometimes the
equivalent of 5 or 6 book pages only for one show case, and
ar far as I remember the chemical section has more than 100
of this hands on cases.
Shure, tunning thru and press every butten wont result in
any information - but just browsing thru a chemical book
either.
> BTW, the Boston Computer Museum has a very
> good history section. Books like 'A Secret Guide To Computers' also
> educate quite a bit. Lastly, since you're so worried about this (we all
> are, I hope) why not just write a book?
:) - Hereby I oder one copy.
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
> >there are only two kinds of mac mouses: 9 pin for plus and earlier and adb
> for
> >se and later models. i've never heard of anything else. as for slow booting,
> Offtopic by about 10 years:
> We just got in a Motorola 603e StarMax mac clone a few months ago at work.
> I loved this machine! It had both ADB connectors AND PS/2 style connectors.
> It also had a standard DB25 serial port connector on it. IMHO, this would
> have been a good step for Apple to make say about 5 or 6 years ago.
Apple is just doing this step in a far better direction: They
change to USB (at least thats what they told us at WWDC) and
the iMac is the first to excange ADB for USB. Not using PS/2
wasn't so bad at all - ADB is a lot more convienient since
I connect the mouse to the kbd nut the cpu.
Gruss
H.
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Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
